Someone promote this guy. Well said.
Club Sale | It’s done!
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Simply cannot believe the rumours that the Glazers are now looking for £8bn, they would be pricing themselves out as well as diminishing their own credibility in the business world, they simply cannot move the goalposts like that after such a protracted process, the two bidders would simply walk away.
Don’t be believing it
Would be great if the EPL stated that OT is not fit for purpose now in the Premier League, and without major refurbishment the club will be demoted to the Championship. Not going to happen of course, but something like that would certainly set the cat amongst the pigeons.
It’s rubbish. They can’t get £6Bn as things stand. Who do they think is going to come in and offer more than 2Bn that’s already offered?
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Shame. I was really looking forward to who the latest cnut on here was, still, there’s always tomorrow.
Where is that coming from?
2012 - Earth's billions of inhabitants are unaware that the planet has an expiration date. With the warnings of an American scientist, world leaders begin secret preparations for the survival of select members of society. When the global cataclysm finally occurs, failed writer Jackson Curtis tries to lead his family to safety as the world starts falling apart.
If the Glazers can get some investment institution to fund a new or redeveloped stadium without using their cash then they may well stay.
It’s a strategic review - selling is only one of the options.
What's this about?
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Sorry to misrepresent you.
Worse. It's the here and now.
Another good example is the extant Saudi 'investment' into United but your post is the usual 'yeah, but whatabout' designed to distract from the actual point (92F's funding).
No need to wait. Just look in the mirror.
I’ve just been slated on the interweb by a child2012 - separated from my wife.
2012 … world was supposed to end in 2012
******* mayans
******* mayans
Perhaps there's someone mixing up currency in the rumours.
A while back the £6bn figure was around $7.3-7.5 billion dollars. Today this £6bn figure is now very close to $7.8bn so some people in reporting and finance will now round it up to $8bn wanted which works out to £6.2bn.
For round figure purposes Glazers will now want $8bn as the dollar slides.
Seems a fair fight to me.
Wow
Interesting perspective. I found an article about Burnham praising Manchester as a football capital of the world on the back of City's treble where he refers to the success of both United and City in their achievements. He didn't seem to promote or lend support explicitly to City's ownership, and so when he says that the lack of transparency over the Qatari bid for United is "uncomfortable" i don't inherently see that as hypocritical, nor do i think his two sets of comments conflict logically.
With that said, I do not like him legitimizing City's treble because furthers Abu Dhabi's successful sportswashing project that i believe Qatar wants to replicate. The bolded is also very concerning. My expectation of him or any mayor is that he holds any state ownership to account, especially as Manchester risks becoming the sportswashing capital of the world.
that seemed pretty fair game after what you wrote!
This is my take as well but with the caveat the Glazers want £6-6.2bn that’s what they want to sell 69% controlling shares and relinquish control of the club, the remaining 50million ‘A’ shares being also purchased at an enterprise value of $38 ($1.9bn) means that the final price is close to £8bn actually about £7.5-7.7bn this is the true cost which I mentioned probably about 500 pages ago and got laughed at , for the very last time the Glazers, yes all 6 of them want a minimum of £6bn to sell their controlling stake within the club.
£6-6.2bn for the Glazers plus £1.5bn for the remaining 31% shares of club.
Just 11 pages away from the present day
I think it’s bullshit. They are beyond insane if they have increased the valuation by an extra £2bn when let’s be fair, the club in its current state isn’t anywhere near that original £6bn valuation. Neither Jassim or Ratcliffe have offered the original £6bn asking price. If it is indeed £8bn, I won’t be surprised if both bidders walked away and I couldn’t blame either of them for doing so.
The owners are waiting on us to hit page 2023 before they sell. Massive fans of the caf.
Sadly it coincides with the noises we've heard so far, none of the bids have excited them and they've been dragging their heels. The only hope we've been clinging on to, is the hope that they are forced to sell, and are only squeezing a few more mils. But that is also starting to look more unlikely as this drags on.
It's a simple fact that the Glazers do still need major inward investment in order to renovate Old Trafford & Carrington - Richard Arnold said as much here:
Full Richard Arnold fan meeting | 'Officials in Barca for De Jong, £200M budget money NOT a problem' - YouTube (time 0:50)
My theory (albeit not a novel one) is that Avram & Joel are digging their heels in for Ratcliffe's deal (which obviously allows them to keep their stakes), whilst all of the other Glazers - alongside the minority shareholders - are doing the same but for Jassim's clean break bid.
Something will have to give. But the one thing I can't see happening is nothing; the irresistible scent of a possible sale is now well and truly caught in the nostrils of most Glazers/minority shareholders/fans/etc., whilst Joel & Avram can't afford that anyway.
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Usually you would think the people with numbers in their favour namely other Glazers and shareholders would prevail over the leeching duo,however it doesn't feel that's the case in this scenario. Those two are powerful unfortunately
I have got it into my head (I think it is because he keeps turning up to matches all of a sudden, making out he cares) is that Avram is the main scalp you to take. I know that Joel makes decisions (and takes ages about doing so) in the day to day operations, but to use a cricket analogy, if you take the wicket of Avram, then Joel will follow.
Yeah Avram is the big wicket but he keeps on playing defensive shots,how do we draw him into making a mistake is the question
2012 the year the world ended
swap the ball for a grenade
We should lock the thread on page 2023, just to be safe.
Adidas expansion being signed can't bode well
The original deal ends at the end of next season (24/25). Would imagine it's the perfect time to renew/announce cutting ties.
And I imagine if there was going to be a new owner they would be the one to sign off a 10 year deal
If there were any intentions to sell, Glazer's wouldn't waste time negotiating and let the new owners deal with it
Feel the Glazer's are just going to stay and then blame the bidders
I highly doubt they had any discussions with Adidas. It would have been Arnold etc who did. Glazers would have just given the green light. For all we know, it was agreed ages ago but just announced today. Granted it doesn't look too good but they're just running business as normal it would seem.
Single biggest sponsorship deal now sorted for the next 10 years... with 20% increase on the last lucrative deal. Sounds great doesn't it, but if you think about it that effectively covers the anticipated increased interest rate on the debt - so it offsets a future expense in the horizon, but doesn't really make the club anymore profitable.
I don't think it signals either way about the club ownership, but its just utterly frustrating that we don't know what the next days, weeks and months look like, and we're signing off 10 year deals.
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