I mean with Merc I can at least understand as there is a cost cap beyond which they cannot even spend, so the additional profits can still be given out as dividends. With United that is never going to be the case unless football introduces wage caps.
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Imagine what we could’ve become under the Qataris.. they would’ve taken us right back to the top.
fecking hell, you lot are miserable bastards about everything aren't you.
Add in the bare minimum investments into his other sporting ventures (especially the football ones), it doesn't bode well.
But he's a boyhood United fan, so it'll be different here apparently.
It sounds like you don’t really understand the role or duties of the media.
Not enough made of this. I get not wanting the sheik, we can all make an educated guess that the money was connected to the government somehwhere down the line with that bid.
But if that is an issue, I don;t understand why anyone would then cheer jim on.
Hes a 'local lad' who has to restrict how many nights he spends in his london home so he can avoid paying UK tax.
His money comes from environmentally disastrous industries, and he is as tight with the Saudi ruling family as Jassim is with the Qataris.
Can anyone please summary this artice and write some general points from it ?
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Makes me sick to imagine what United would be under Qatari ownership. No amount of success, of which they were no guarantee would have changed the uncomfortable truth.
When we look at how they run PSG, I wouldn't be too sure about that. We'd have more immediate cash for infrastructure, but who knows if player recruitment would be smart enough and good enough to compete in the premier league. City and Newcastle have both gone the route of recruiting the very best DOF available, restructuring the club for sporting success and giving the sporting people authority to do what needs to be done, while mostly just bankrolling what they want - PSG has had more meddling and more "star" signings.
Qataris would probably mean more money right now and more investment in Manchester in general, but it was not a guarantee for success.
Oh, guaranteed 100%. They would've moved OT a hundred yards to the North using a big pizza tray and rebuilt the South stand so it had a new capacity of 95k. Billions of people would've flocked from all corners of the known universe to marvel as we won 38 league games in a row, City would've literally exploded up it's own arse in disarray at our splendor, and my hair would've grown back in joy.
Unfortunately we have big Jim, who despite not being through the front door for even a minute has been an unmitigated failure that has doomed us to the Conference League.
Would be interesting if the board vote to reject his deal
Have a look where Hamas leadership lives, who is hosting them and keeping them safe. Even before this I never wanted them as I didn't want us to be another sportswashing project.
Anyway, it's over and they've withdrawn.
A good portion of billionares have connections/investments from shaddy people. The problem with Sheikh was that it was a state ownership. State ownership should never been allowed in the 1st place by either the FA, FIFA, Premiler league or UEFA. But the so called governing bodies don't really care give a F about the integrity of the sporty. So I like most fans came to accept it and preferred Qatar's bid. State ownership is here to stay, that battle has been lost.
Issue with Jim is same with Glazers, he doesn't have the money to afford it. He's taking over but the debt is still in tact. There's a billion needed from somewhere to properly fix the stadiums and training grounds. Are UTD going to take another loan to finance this, adding again to more strain the books. And what about his investors. They are not here because they're football fans, its an investment for them. At some point the people Jim is partnered with will need to get returns on their investments. Are they going to start pulling out dividends while UTD is paying for the Glazer debt.
Again the governing bodies are useless. No club should be sold to people who can't afford it. There should be a rule where an owner can't finance his purchase with hedge funds or placing debts on the club. The EPL should have their clubs and make sure people who take over it are not going to put heavy financial burdens on the club. We need to hear from Jim on the financial plan.
What's the plan to fully take over the club ? Who is financing that ? Do the people financing the purchase require dividends at some point, how will they get their money back ? What's the plan to clear the debt ? How will you finance fixing the stadium and training facilities ? How much will be be available for transfers each summer ?
Yes, the resulting wave of pro Glazer support from the Qatari Bros would be something else.
Maybe that's been their plan all along, to get some fans onside finally?
It's admirable that you are so optimistic but a lot of the optimism is based on 'if'. The focus point here should be that the Glazer family have no intention of letting go of their ownership until they have sucked money out of this club for another 10 years. The only path around this was the sale to the Qataris and a higher asking price of $6 billion which they know is ridiculous. I will remain pragmatic and stand firm that as long as the Glazer family have stake in this club; we will remain at the level we are. What I'm referring to is how this club is run at the executive level and not how we play. We may have some small instances of success in games here and there but the underlying truth is exactly what Ragnick pointed out:
- clean out the rot...which includes players, staff and ownership.
Can we stop[ with this ill-informed nonsense.
The Qataris also host the Taliban offices, and they do it because the US and UN want them to, allowing some discourse with these groups where UN representatives can be safe.
Me neither but only less than 1% of people could afford the club and with their profiles, not sure I'd want any of them. People are worried about brand FC, how would they feel with OT being called the Apple or Amazon ground....
Why don’t you just wait and see before making any sweeping judgments? We don’t know anything about the plans currently.
It's not really adding much, just a review of who / what Ineos are and what they might do. In brief:
- They will look to restructure the footballing side, Arnold and Murtaugh can expect squeaky bum time, but not Ten Hag. Brailsford would be in charge of that restructure.
- Their analysts have concluded we are crap at buying (gee, who knew)
- Team is more important than stadium at this point
- A new hire from France (Jean-Claude Blanc) could replace Arnold & has history with PSG and other sporting ventures
- Nice were bad, but are turning it around (but only 8 games in) & lessons have been learned
- No evidence of how funds will be provided for investment in infrastructure
- Fans will need convincing.
Because he's spent 6 months believing in the Qatari bid and can't let go
Yep. But at least we can take the moral high ground when we are battling to finish fifth…
Even if these are the only two options, I’d take finishing fifth over our club being used for sportswashing.
They also host a US military base, the confused feckers.
Just stop. Qatar not only houses these people but is a primary funding source for them.
https://www.france24.com/en/middle-...key-and-beyond-the-galaxy-of-hamas-supporters
Great news.
Loan FC continues.
to be honest, watching Mbappe smash in a hat-trick at Anfield would help me forget all that.
Now I'm going to watch Ollie Watkins get half a chance at a consolation goal at Anfield.
I'd rather do that than supporting a club being owned by the Saudi state/
This applies for me as well. However, hard to tell if the feeling is excitement or just kind of relieved.
Pry these shit fecks off the sole of our club.
It’s very obvious that not a single person In this thread has a clue what they are talking about. That’s why you’re posting on a forum, whilst the billionaires are doing their business in a realm none of us can possibly fathom how it actually works.
He liked them because he had been given all the control whilst they counted the money, which created a huge vacuum when he left.
You don't renovate to make it better and more expensive to pay the former owners more money for the house do you? Something doesn't add up, only reasonable variable is that the rest of the shares are at a fixed price.
Atleast we can stop hoping for change now. Everything will stay exactly the same and we can enjoy our football however we want from there.
The Glazers won't allow either Richard Arnold or John Murtough to be replaced. Both of them are Glazer plants. And they also have the ultimate decision regarding Ten Hag and his replacement.
The human rights abusers pulling out is good news.
Whinge FC is still going I guess. We’re as bad with new investors as we are with our players.
Delighted at least we aren’t just becoming a state puppet show.
Delighted at least we aren’t just becoming a state puppet show.
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