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Based on what? You haven't got a clue about that. If you don't know facts about the virus or it's repercussions please don't say anything at all.
it's been said multiple times by experts. you're the one talking shite here. we will be at peak in June, and in complete lockdown.

there's no chance in hell the season even starts again by the end of June let alone be finished by then.
 

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The fact that you stated “I’m looking at you, 1985 European Cup Final” with the you in italics for added dramatic effect tells me it was nothing but an opportunistic cheap shot.
You’re right: this was a bad, heavy-handed way to make a point, and I apologise for not wording it more sensitively. I was citing the final as a regrettable whole, though, without taking sides, which was meant to be made clear by using its official title; causal blame lies with the hooligans, and hooligans are never a reflection of the clubs they purport to support. The wrong in retrospect decision to kick-off was what I was trying to spotlight, but the accusatory tone I used was over-egging it, and I'm sorry about that.
 

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It's looking very unlikely the season can be completed in the summer. Based on the current modelling the government are using to set strategy, the the full quarantine measures will be in place from April to September with a second wave in winter those quarantine measures are lifted immediately.

The Premier League and clubs should be thinking about how to salvage next season instead of worrying about completing this one. The circumstances are extraordinary enough that this season can be considered null and void. The wider implication on broadcasting contracts and financial solvency of clubs is the far more pressing issue than league standings. This economic shock won't just affect clubs in the low-tiers of football, even the big clubs are in danger of not being able to meet their financial obligations if broadcasting revenues are cut alongside the loss of match-day revenues.
 
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This might be an opportunity with all the disruption to move football over as a summer sport from Feb - Nov. Particularly as soon after the leagues are going to be disrupted by the Qatar world cup.
 

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There's no way Liverpool should be handed the title. The only way I can see this being resolved is for the season to be considered null and void, it will be crap for us as well because we were still in the hunt for top 4 and going for 2 major trophies. But what can we do, I can't see how anybody would want to win a title like this but I suppose Liverpool are so desperate for a league title they'd take one by any means possible.
 

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If the PL are gonna lose £750 million you can be fecking certain this season is getting finished. They will not let that amount of money go even if it means people will die. Money-hungry cnuts.
 

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If the PL are gonna lose £750 million you can be fecking certain this season is getting finished. They will not let that amount of money go even if it means people will die. Money-hungry cnuts.
If they don't complete contract by 31 July Sky/BT should give some money to the lower leagues. Forget that, even if they do, a lot of this money should go to the lower leagues instead of the PL clubs who need it less. Be a nice gesture to save the small clubs. Obviously both will do the opposite & let them collapse.
 

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“You would have broadcasters from all around the world saying, ‘In that case we are not paying for the season.’ For the Premier League you are talking around £3 billion income a year from overseas and domestic TV rights.


They won't be paying up for the remaining 9-10 matches, it's not like they can pretend they didn't broadcast the first 28-29 matches.
 

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This might be an opportunity with all the disruption to move football over as a summer sport from Feb - Nov. Particularly as soon after the leagues are going to be disrupted by the Qatar world cup.
Of all the ideas mooted, this is an immediate no chance.
 

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You’re right: this was a bad, heavy-handed way to make a point, and I apologise for not wording it more sensitively. I was citing the final as a regrettable whole, though, without taking sides, which was meant to be made clear by using its official title; causal blame lies with the hooligans, and hooligans are never a reflection of the clubs they purport to support. The wrong in retrospect decision to kick-off was what I was trying to spotlight, but the accusatory tone I used was over-egging it, and I'm sorry about that.
No worries mate, I appreciate this response. Watching Heysel unfold on TV, even as a naive teenager, I couldn’t believe they played the game.

Btw are you a Villa fan? That’s what it says on your profile. If so, what’s the general feeling at your club about where football goes from here.
 

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This debate has the potential to change people’s identities from leavers or remainers to finishers or voiders.
 

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“You would have broadcasters from all around the world saying, ‘In that case we are not paying for the season.’ For the Premier League you are talking around £3 billion income a year from overseas and domestic TV rights.


They won't be paying up for the remaining 9-10 matches, it's not like they can pretend they didn't broadcast the first 28-29 matches.
If you can pretend Liverpool didn't win 27 of the last 29 games then surely you can pretend the previous 29 games were not broadcast. Void means void.
 

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If you can pretend Liverpool didn't win 27 of the last 29 games then surely you can pretend the previous 29 games were not broadcast. Void means void.
Wouldn't say so. They purchase the broadcasting rights to gain viewership in order to increase the scope of ads. This has all happened.
 

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This whole thing is going to swing back and forward isn't it.
One min you think it's impossible to not finish the season and then it's impossible to see how they can possibly play the games.

At the moment the government won't even give direct orders on working from home or banning meetings. It's all advice and quickly changing.
 

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No worries mate, I appreciate this response. Watching Heysel unfold on TV, even as a naive teenager, I couldn’t believe they played the game.

Btw are you a Villa fan? That’s what it says on your profile. If so, what’s the general feeling at your club about where football goes from here.
I watched Heysel unfold on live TV as a youngster as well (as you'll know, distressing scenes went out live on the night which, even if archived, will probably never be shown again. Certainly the few features about the tragedy I've seen on YouTube haven't - thankfully - included these; what they show is numbing enough) and it left a deep and lasting mark that Hillsborough and Bradford, in every way as horrific of course, didn’t, since I witnessed neither of those unfolding as they happened.

I am Villa, but that needs to be qualified: when you join RedCafe there's the space to put down the club you favour, which then apparently becomes permanent (unless you request if it can be modified), and I'm more Villa by default than design - born in the area, with all of my mother's family following Villa. Apart from a couple of games, all my live football watching has been done at Villa Park, and they're the team I feel connected to, but I've long since stopped going to games, and don't suffer enough when they're being put through the ringer to call myself a fan in the proper sense. I haven't really felt out Villa fans' feelings on the current situation (some higher force had deemed it necessary that I work alongside Wolves and Baggies fans in day-to-day life, and - whisper it - VillaTalk isn't a patch on this forum for wide-ranging and developed discussion and debate, so I mainly come in here). There's bound to be a range of takes among them - with a lot hoping for 'passive' voiding, I'd imagine. Being the only team in the bottom half with a game in hand would be a point of contention.
 
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This is absurd. Shame on Sky and BT for not coming to a reasonable agreement if this does actually happen.
feck them so when it comes to renewal. Dont even let them come to the table

Sky are done anwyay.
 

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If you can pretend Liverpool didn't win 27 of the last 29 games then surely you can pretend the previous 29 games were not broadcast. Void means void.
If you can pretend that Liverpool won the league and United won two trophies and got into the CL then you're mistaken as the MATHS says otherwise.
Until the MATHS confirms such things the League is null and void.
 

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If this uk peak isn’t going to be til May/June, as were being told, then I’m guessing the sports won’t be able to start til after then?
 

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If this uk peak isn’t going to be til May/June, as were being told, then I’m guessing the sports won’t be able to start til after then?
How can the expect palace to complete the season without their manager who will be stuck in his house ? The league should of been voided by now it's clear to see there is no way around this. We will be lucky to see the start of next season.
 

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How can the expect palace to complete the season without their manager who will be stuck in his house ? The league should of been voided by now it's clear to see there is no way around this. We will be lucky to see the start of next season.
He could manage remotely if needed or put someone in temporary charge like when Houllier was ill and Pinocchio stood in
 
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If you can pretend Liverpool didn't win 27 of the last 29 games then surely you can pretend the previous 29 games were not broadcast. Void means void.
it’s not pretending that the games didn’t happen. They did, the results stand, all the individual stats stand - just that the season is abandoned.
 

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This season will be cancelled and next season will start late (if we're lucky).
Carling cup and possibly FA cup will be scrapped to allow for shorter league window.

That's the best case scenario. Worst case no football next year either
 

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Nonchalantly scoring the winner...
This might be an opportunity with all the disruption to move football over as a summer sport from Feb - Nov. Particularly as soon after the leagues are going to be disrupted by the Qatar world cup.
I would Love that... I think the PL would become even more attractive.

With Euro tournaments taking place every other Christmas build up!
 

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He could manage remotely if needed or put someone in temporary charge like when Houllier was ill and Pinocchio stood in
I'm trying to make a case for the league being null an void so Liverpool don't win the league what the hell is your problem ? You would have no chance in getting close to us anyway :angel:

But seriously they couldn't expect him to do that as he is not actually Ill, it's an act of God and if he legally can't be there with his team due to a global pandemic then the match shouldn't be taking place.
 

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I'm trying to make a case for the league being null an void so Liverpool don't win the league what the hell is your problem ? You would have no chance in getting close to us anyway :angel:

But seriously they couldn't expect him to do that as he is not actually Ill, it's an act of God and if he legally can't be there with his team due to a global pandemic then the match shouldn't be taking place.
P.S off topic, but did you keep your kids off in the end mate?
 

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Bring up Leeds, West Brom. Have the other four do their playoff somehow some way(empty stadium,indoors,whatever). Give the title to the obvious champions -Liverpool. Play next season with a shorter schedule and 23 teams. At the end of next season 6 go down. 3 come up.
 

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SFA are right.
Its just wishful thinking to suggest the season can be finished.

This crisis will still be about in June. Its a total nightmare.
The worst part is not knowing when we're going to see football again. It could be anywhere from a few weeks to upwards of a year, or longer still.

God knows what we'll resort to doing for entertainment in the meantime.
 

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The worst part is not knowing when we're going to see football again. It could be anywhere from a few weeks to upwards of a year, or longer still.

God knows what we'll resort to doing for entertainment in the meantime.
Rewatch the office on loop
 

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Bring up Leeds, West Brom. Have the other four do their playoff somehow some way(empty stadium,indoors,whatever). Give the title to the obvious champions -Liverpool. Play next season with a shorter schedule and 23 teams. At the end of next season 6 go down. 3 come up.
You're getting desperate and reaching as a result.

There comes a point when you realize you're fighting a losing battle. When do you think you will arrive at that realization?
 

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Bring up Leeds, West Brom. Have the other four do their playoff somehow some way(empty stadium,indoors,whatever). Give the title to the obvious champions -Liverpool. Play next season with a shorter schedule and 23 teams. At the end of next season 6 go down. 3 come up.
There is literally no way this is happening despite the Liverpool protestations. What about the top 4 in this country? A play off for them too? Cobblers.

As many United fans have said, the ideal is to try and see if by the end of May we can start up football again, if we can we start again June 1st and finish Mid July. However this is looking increasingly unlikely, nothing is likely to be sorted by July. There is no way they will feck up next season as well as this, the FA will have to void the league. Its hit for Liverpool, Leeds, Leicester, United, but better for most other clubs.