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Whenever Italy's leagues starts up again, we'll be a few weeks after that. But who can honestly guess when that'll be. It just seems like science fiction to think we'll have football again anytime soon.
to an extent, but each country will be different. I also wouldn’t be surprised if there is some coordination from UEFA around a restart date.Whenever Italy's leagues starts up again, we'll be a few weeks after that. But who can honestly guess when that'll be. It just seems like science fiction to think we'll have football again anytime soon.
Just because we are behind Italy in the arc and have been following a similar upward trajectory doesn’t mean we will mirror their downward trajectory.Whenever Italy's leagues starts up again, we'll be a few weeks after that. But who can honestly guess when that'll be. It just seems like science fiction to think we'll have football again anytime soon.
Realistically you'd think there would have to be. It all needs to sync up to a certain degree, especially if the CL and EL are still going to be happening.to an extent, but each country will be different. I also wouldn’t be surprised if there is some coordination from UEFA around a restart date.
was shocked to see a claim by Southampton’s CEO that we can play matches behind closed doors whilst the country is in lock down. That just downplays the seriousness of what we are going through, what a complete tool.
I dare say they'll have to step in and dish out a huge amount of money to compensate any clubs in trouble.Yeah, the legalities concerning European qualification and promoted/relegated teams is the main thing preventing the FA from voiding the season entirely I'd imagine. I'm sure they'd be more than happy to void the season, sparing themselves a massive headache trying to sort this mess out.
I haven't a clue what's going to happen at this point, but we simply must start football up soon if only to prevent many clubs outside the prem going bust.
Unfortunately, we're seeing that just because someone is involved in football, doesn't make their opinion any less madcap than people outside of it.to an extent, but each country will be different. I also wouldn’t be surprised if there is some coordination from UEFA around a restart date.
was shocked to see a claim by Southampton’s CEO that we can play matches behind closed doors whilst the country is in lock down. That just downplays the seriousness of what we are going through, what a complete tool.
At the appropriate time, absolute direction from UEFA is what all the individual associations want. Otherwise, you will not be able to coordinate transfer windows and the resolution of European competition (at some point).Realistically you'd think there would have to be. It all needs to sync up to a certain degree, especially if the CL and EL are still going to be happening.
I don't envy those in charge of all this, it's an absolute mess.
Clubs might not have a choice and whats the difference in playing friendlies or new season games when the go ahead is given?Of course. Money drives everything. Did anyone really think the season would be voided. Clubs wouldnt get the Prize Money or broadcasting revenue. Clubs will find a way to finish the season
But could you say without any doubt that fans of other clubs didn’t have it? Games were going to go ahead as normal prior to Arteta’s announcement.
Shouldn’t all clubs be shamed in that case?
This reply to Flopper, from RT, drops his comments completly so don't lie please.That's not true.
LASK and United decided to play their game behind closed days only 24 hours after the Liverpool game, opting to show responsibility rather than creating an atmosphere for a meaningless football match. The Arteta announcement came after that.
There were several other leagues already shut down before that too.
I didn’t ask about that game. I asked if Premier League clubs would’ve prevented fans from coming to games on the weekend following our game with Atletico, prior to Arteta testing positive. Some clubs decided to play behind closed doors but no clubs were doing that in England unless ordered to by UEFA or the Premier League.
To say otherwise would be daft.
Most. Many. A lot. However you would like to describe it, that wasn't the original point. The point is scapegoating a singular club for a widespread failure of policy on a national and sporting level is abhorrent.Cant say all of Europe was slow to react at all. Central European countries Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, Czech Republic (where I am based) closed everything down within 2 weeks of the first case. This included borders, schools, shops, pubs restaurants. Everyone is in quarantine for 3 weeks, only people that have to go to work are allowed outside. Just because the UK has a moron in charge who didnt listen to any advice and moved like a snail, dont lump everyone else in with him. Other countries responded quickly
Why are you limiting the blame only to the midweek? A full slate of PL matches was played on the weekend of March 7th when there were already cases and deaths in the UK. And before you try to argue nobody knew about the virus at the time look at the articles here, here, and here and when they were written. Mistakes were made but it has nothing to do with one club. I should even have to write something so obvious, but people are using this unprecedented tragedy to wave the banner of football tribalism and I find it repugnant.His point was about Liverpool and that date.
How many other games were played with fans there that midweek?
If the issue here is another club made a silly decision, that doesn't make his point moot/wrong, it just means another club were wrong too? And as this is a UK/United site (lots of other posters too), you can imagine there will be more focus on the Liverpool game (down the road with thousands of people from Madrid/Spain) than the other game?
Lots of things have been done wrong (in hindsight) but maybe that one could have been done differently? (whichever club it was?)
We all "knew" the weekend before when a full slate of PL matches was played.I remember making a post on matchday saying how irresposible that was from the city of Liverpool and Liverpool FC (and Leipzig as well). They knew. We all knew.
Lots of points in there for different people.Most. Many. A lot. However you would like to describe it, that wasn't the original point. The point is scapegoating a singular club for a widespread failure of policy on a national and sporting level is abhorrent.
Why are you limiting the blame only to the midweek? A full slate of PL matches was played on the weekend of March 7th when there were already cases and deaths in the UK. And before you try to argue nobody knew about the virus at the time look at the articles here, here, and here and when they were written. Mistakes were made but it has nothing to do with one club. I should even have to write something so obvious, but people are using this unprecedented tragedy to wave the banner of football tribalism and I find it repugnant.
We all "knew" the weekend before when a full slate of PL matches was played.
It's sad this is even a discussion.
I read something the other day. Whoever was quoted in the article was saying that we should scrap next season. Basically finish this one, whatever time it takes and then adjust for a new season.
I think it will take at least four to five months before life resumes normally.
If the remaining games start somewhere in September and are played all the way through November. Have a winter vacation until January, UEFA and FIFA could come up with some short term tournament that could take a couple of months, have the Euros and start a fresh 21/22 season.
There's too much lost potential revenue to scrap an entire season.I read something the other day. Whoever was quoted in the article was saying that we should scrap next season. Basically finish this one, whatever time it takes and then adjust for a new season.
I think it will take at least four to five months before life resumes normally.
If the remaining games start somewhere in September and are played all the way through November. Have a winter vacation until January, UEFA and FIFA could come up with some short term tournament that could take a couple of months, have the Euros and start a fresh 21/22 season.
The point wasn't the matches should have gone on. We can all agree sporting even should have been shutdown earlier. The point is that poster using this crisis to scapegoat a rival is classless. You can hate a rival without being a soulless prick.Lots of points in there for different people.
In reply to the bit to me, who said I was limiting anything? You're assuming what I'm saying and why.
I'm commenting on a number of posts that were specifically about the Liverpool v Atletico game. But to take your point, the games before (imo) were wrong.... the Liverpool game was wrong (imo) .... and if PL games had been played the next weekend, they'd have been wrong, including United (imo, if that's ok)
Why are people even floating this idea? The point of finishing this season is money, not Liverpool or virtue or integrity. Cancelling 100% of next season's revenue to save 25% of this one's isn't even on the table. They presently hope to finish this one then start next one possibly even on a delayed calendarI read something the other day. Whoever was quoted in the article was saying that we should scrap next season. Basically finish this one, whatever time it takes and then adjust for a new season.
I think it will take at least four to five months before life resumes normally.
If the remaining games start somewhere in September and are played all the way through November. Have a winter vacation until January, UEFA and FIFA could come up with some short term tournament that could take a couple of months, have the Euros and start a fresh 21/22 season.
feck sake, that explains everythingNo surprise there. The hacks who cover a particular club are little more than PR agents for the club at the best of times. Holt is a Liverpool fan. He was a reporter for the Echo (if ever a paper were appropriately named), then the Mirror under Piers Morgan and now the Mail and he despises United and always had it in for Fergie.
Yep people write this off as an "easy fix", you just "don't play next season", like that is some kind of magic fix. The same as playing BCD, if we do that to resolve this season then it will see clubs go under. The idea that we can just pull some magic cash out to pay for it is laughable, you would be talking millions upon millions to fix this crisis. Now it might happen anyway if you void this season, and the virus comes back, but you pretty much guarantee it if you cancel next season.Why are people even floating this idea? The point of finishing this season is money, not Liverpool or virtue or integrity. Cancelling 100% of next season's revenue to save 25% of this one's isn't even on the table. They presently hope to finish this one then start next one possibly even on a delayed calendar
Its actually on ssn youtube. The whole 2 and a bit hoursHave you got a link to the interview?
I still think he has brain issues regardless. Although I don't think it's the cause of the problem, constantly resurrecting him cannot be helping matters.
Let the guy die in peace, you know?
Neville does realise that when this thing blows over we'll all want to get back to our normal lives as well as watch the footy doesnt he?I am convinced something terrible happened to Gary Neville's brain while he was managing Valencia. Imagine suggesting clubs play all their remaining games over a period of 9 days, then having the audacity to call it the Festival of Football. Not to mention half of those clubs still have 10 games to finish. What, are they expected to play twice in a day?
The guy's lost his marbles completely.
Clubs aren't going to be getting tests just so they can declare their boys risk free so they can play bcd just so you can get your titleJust out of interest, as PL football clubs are generally rich, will they be buying these antibodies test packs up front to check what state their squad is in next month, for example? In other words who is already immune and who is still at risk? There may be quite a few players/staff that were asymptomatic?
I see and agree with your point of players should not be able to sue their clubs since a lot of us are having to continue our jobs risking get ourself infected. They should be treated no special than us folks.It’s not an unnecessary risk at all and it’s not at all like your boss telling you to speed on your scooter, least not because that would be breaking the law. But yeah, it’s not an unnecessary risk, it’s something that literally cannot be controlled and It’s with us now. The risk is always going to be there with this thing now.The idea that footballers will sue or quit the game and give up all this money they earn because of this virus, which will give pretty much all of them at worse a bad flu, is a fantasy. Loads of people with non critical jobs have got the virus and have you heard of anybody suing ? Well this the same thing. They’re not extra special because they’re footballers.
Conor McGregor was saying that his immune system was down when he was training for fights as he was pushing himself to the limit.Here's an excerpt I quickly googled. Covers it quite well:
There is a relationship between the intensity and duration of runs and immune function. Moderately intense workouts tend to strengthen the immune system. For most people, this means an hour run at a steady pace. Running 10 miles or more or running to exhaustion can actually temporarilyweaken the immune system. This impairment of immune function generally lasts only a few hours, although for some people, especially those with an already weakened immune system, it may take several days. What has been observed is that marathon runners are up to six times more likely to get the common cold after a race.
Yes Fabrice Muamba went to public hospital. There needs to be police, paramedics present at all matches across all professional leagues. No way the resources would be used to put on football to appease football teams, fans or anyone really. Also money in football is insignificant compared to what it's doing to the economy already. I mean we've already pledged 35bn emergency fund to combat Covid-19. Premier league stands to lose a measly 700 million if the season doesn't get finished. It's incomparable.I presume if somebody got injured seriously they would have had to go to one of the public hospitals.
But when hospitals are full from May onwards it wouldn't be too well received by the public.
There is absolutely no chance of Serie A resuming in may when 800 people a day are dying in the country. They're going to be on lockdown for a long, long time and after it all calms down, they will be very cautious to prevent a second wave hitting them. In fact I'd be surprised if any football was played in 2020.There have been some comparisons between the situation in Italy and the UK with the UK said to be 2 weeks behind Italy.
I really don't see Serie A resuming until, at the very earliest, the beginning of May and more realistically I don't think will resume until mid-May maybe even late May. Therefore, I can't see the premier league resuming until June. At this point, next season would have to be rescheduled in some way if they want to finish the season. I'm still in favour of finishing the season because I think it's the only fair way to determine the winners and losers.
Continue this season with teams wearing their new kits due to contract and missing players out of contract?I read something the other day. Whoever was quoted in the article was saying that we should scrap next season. Basically finish this one, whatever time it takes and then adjust for a new season.
I think it will take at least four to five months before life resumes normally.
If the remaining games start somewhere in September and are played all the way through November. Have a winter vacation until January, UEFA and FIFA could come up with some short term tournament that could take a couple of months, have the Euros and start a fresh 21/22 season.
Add in factors like players missing due to family, vulnerability, clubs that have gone into administration (if we go past say 5 months before a restart), many lower teams just being decimated by missing players, out of contracts, etc. This idea that "everyone will just work with us to make it happen", is unrealistic at best.Continue this season with teams wearing their new kits due to contract and missing players out of contract?
It’ll feel like a new season anyway. It doesn’t really make much sense to me.
I think this is what might well happen.They will finish this season late on this year and next season will be axed.I wouldn't be surprised if finishing this season, whenever that is, maybe this time next year, was the only football we see till Euro 2021. I really hope that isn't the case though, because if it is it means things have got very very bad.
Actually it would surprise me, because continuing this season beyond end of June is going to be near on impossible legally.
So you think clubs can afford not to have one year's worth of prize money or broadcasting money. ? Any idea how the clubs will survive and pay the player's salaries.I think this is what might well happen.They will finish this season late on this year and next season will be axed.
They might keep the domestic cups and cl but next seasons league could be axed and we will probably have the Euro's also.
So are you going to be surprised or not?I wouldn't be surprised if finishing this season, whenever that is, maybe this time next year, was the only football we see till Euro 2021. I really hope that isn't the case though, because if it is it means things have got very very bad.
Actually it would surprise me, because continuing this season beyond end of June is going to be near on impossible legally.
I....don't know anymoreSo are you going to be surprised or not?