Cristiano Ronaldo - Performances (wums will be thread banned)

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He created a lucky deflection which became a great cross and a fantastic team move and pull back by Vasquez? The second goal was great work undoubtedly.

The kind of crosses that Carvajal and Marcelo and co put in for him to head, he won't be getting any of those at United. None of our players can get a cross that beats the first man and if they somehow manage that, it inevitably meets a defender. Ronaldo and Ramos would struggle to score any goals from corners and crosses in our team.
He turned a deflection into a goal with great instincts, movement and a bullet header for the first. He turned a nothing pass into a goal for the 2nd. He played what was essentially a 1-2 with Vasquez for the 3rd. It's not luck that he was the only free man in the box for the 3rd goal - he made that chance. A cross needs a recipient and it's not like it was a pinpoint ball from a difficult angle. It was a straightforward cutback, because of the position occupied and because of the position Ronaldo played him into.
 

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For what exactly? We create chances but nowhere close to what Madrid do. He'd not be able to touch the numbers he does at Madrid with Martial and Mkhi alongside him.
He'd score nearly as much for you. Most of his goals are byproducts of what he does in the box, not open goal tap-ins where the team does 99% of the work for him
 

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Should Real finish the job next week, it will be the second back-to-back UCL finals for Ronaldo!
 

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He'd score nearly as much for you. Most of his goals are byproducts of what he does in the box, not open goal tap-ins where the team does 99% of the work for him
35-50 goals a season with Shaw, Valencia, Mkhi, Rashford and Martial in support instead of Marcelo, Carvajal, Bale, Isco and Benzema? I don't see that happening honestly.
 

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35-50 goals a season with Shaw, Valencia, Mkhi, Rashford and Martial in support instead of Marcelo, Carvajal, Bale, Isco and Benzema? I don't see that happening honestly.
A 36 year old in his first season in the Premier League has scored 28 in all competitions despite the fact he will miss the rest of the season and many think he has wasted a hell of a lot of chances. Zlatan is an amazing player but Ronaldo is a completely different animal. He would score a bucket load for us
 

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@wr8_utd Cristiano would score 25 playing for sunderland. I think he'd manage 40+ for you guys
 

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A 36 year old in his first season in the Premier League has scored 28 despite the fact he will miss the rest of the season and many think he has wasted a hell of a lot of chances. Zlatan is an amazing player but Ronaldo is a completely different animal. He would score a bucket load for us
Zlatan has been the total and complete focal point of our game though. I don't think Ronaldo would play up top for us.I think he'd get 30-35 goals without really playing great football. Anyway, it's never going to happen so I guess it's not really worth debating.
 

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The thing about Ronnie is he is in sufficiently good shape where he can continue doing this til he's 35-36.
 

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Zlatan has been the total and complete focal point of our game though. I don't think Ronaldo would play up top for us.I think he'd get 30-35 goals without really playing great football. Anyway, it's never going to happen so I guess it's not really worth debating.
If he plays 45-50 games a season, he can manage 30+ goals:
3 hatricks= 9 goals
4-5 braces: 8-10 goals
15 single goals

(or something like that).

Total= 32/34 goals in 22/23 games. At worst, Ronaldo can score 0.5-0.6 goals per game (half his average with Mardid), and that would be great for us.
 
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Sorry I was starting to doubt you Ronnie!

This man is a football god. Steps up when we need him the most.
 

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"Had a shit game as usual and did nothing but score... 3 times"

From that lot. :smirk:
 

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3rd goal - he made that chance.
Yeah, I thought it was brilliant piece of play for that 3rd goal, he knew exactly how he was going to score at start of that attack, but neither of Atletico's player managed to read it.
 

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lol @ not wanting Ronaldo back. If we had him, lets be honest, most of our draws at OT would have been wins and we would be competing for the title this season. IMO, its not even questionable.
 

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Great player. Don't care if he's arrogant. When you are that good you are allowed to be.
I would take him back in an instant.
 

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I still can't wrap my head around the idea that he has scored more CL goals than Atletico Madrid. That doesn't make any sense.
 

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lol @ not wanting Ronaldo back. If we had him, lets be honest, most of our draws at OT would have been wins and we would already have won the title this season. IMO, its not even questionable.
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Thing is, I remember he didn't score his first UCL goal for a long while too.
 

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El Rey! Just give him the crown already.

The power of pure will, determination and ruthless mental tenacity! He defines a true champion.
 

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In terms of their club careers then I can't agree, Ronaldo only has one La Liga title. [
Why take only the league as consideration? What about CL? is that not a club competition? Look at Ronaldo's CL stats and one can make the argument that RM's 2 CLs in 3 years is mainly due to Ronaldo's scoring prowess and influence.
Also, there's a certain kind of 'hollowness' to a Champions League triumph if the side that wins it doesn't win their domestic league too as they cannot be called the best team in Europe. The last time Real did that was in the 50s.
A double is always considered symbolic; a treble is astounding but to say a CL triumph in any way is hollow is just taking the piss. A team which has won 2 CLs in 3 years and is almost in the final of their 3rd in 4 years is considered WC level- even Barca didn't achieve this level of European glory in their heydays.
 

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Ronaldo - 35 goals. He never scored in CL, let alone the knockouts until Roma in 2007.
Finals - 2 (Chelsea in 2008, Atletico in 2014)
Semi finals - 13 (1x Milan 2007, 2x Arsenal 2009, 2x Bayern 2012, 1x Dortmund 2013, 2x Bayern 2014, 2x Juventus 2015. 3x Atletico 2017)
Quarter finals - 20 (2x Roma 2007, 1x Roma 2008, 1x Porto 2009, 2x Spurs 2011, 2x APOEL 2012, 3x Galatasaray 2013, 1x Dortmund 2014, 3x Wolfsburg 2016, 5x Bayern 2017)

Messi - 16 goals
Finals - 2 (Man Utd in 2009 and 2011)
Semi finals - 4 (2x Real Madrid 2011, 2x Bayern Munich 2015)
Quarter finals - 10 (2x Bayern 2009, 4x Arsenal 2010, 1x Shakhtar 2011, 2x Milan 2012, 1x PSG 2013)

Just the Round of 16 stats: Ronaldo 17-16 Messi

Ronaldo - 1x Lyon 2008, 1x Inter 2009, 1x Lyon 2010, 3x CSKA 2012, 2x Man Utd 2013, 4x Schalke 2014, 3x Schalke 2015, 2x Roma 2016
Messi - 2x Celtic 2008, 1x Lyon 2009, 2x Stuttgart 2010, 2x Arsenal 2011, 6x Leverkusen 2012, 2x Milan 2013, 2x Man City 2014, 3x Arsenal 2016, 1x PSG 2017

Both have scored 9 against a single opponent. Messi vs Arsenal, Ronaldo vs Bayern Munich.
 

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A double is always considered symbolic; a treble is astounding but to say a CL triumph in any way is hollow is just taking the piss. A team which has won 2 CLs in 3 years and is almost in the final of their 3rd in 4 years is considered WC level- even Barca didn't achieve this level of European glory in their heydays.
I didn't claim it is flat out hollow, I said "there's a certain kind of 'hollowness" to it. This is because winning the European Cup should mean that you're the best team in Europe and you can't claim that if you don't win your own domestic league as well.

I'm not saying that it isn't a great achievement.

People saying winning the CL is hollow without the league :lol:
See above.
 

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I didn't claim it is flat out hollow, I said "there's a certain kind of 'hollowness" to it. This is because winning the European Cup should mean that you're the best team in Europe and you can't claim that if you don't win your own domestic league as well.

I'm not saying that it isn't a great achievement.
Curious to know what you make of a league champion that doesn't win the domestic Cup. If you win a domestic Cup (like the FA Cup), you should by your own logic, be the best team in the land. Same for the league of course. So, err, does missing on one make the other "hollow" or "sort of hollow"?
 

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Curious to know what you make of a league champion that doesn't win the domestic Cup. If you win a domestic Cup (like the FA Cup), you should by your own logic, be the best team in the land. Same for the league of course. So, err, does missing on one make the other "hollow" or "sort of hollow"?
Winning the domestic cup doesn't come with the title of being the best team in the land
 

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Curious to know what you make of a league champion that doesn't win the domestic Cup. If you win a domestic Cup (like the FA Cup), you should by your own logic, be the best team in the land. Same for the league of course. So, err, does missing on one make the other "hollow" or "sort of hollow"?
Good point.
I hate when people bang on about that. They're just different competitions, and at the top level the margins are so fine that often the winners are spread around. That's hardly an indictment on the winners, merely a recognition that the competition is spread. Plus, who ever said there's a rule that the best team must always win?
 
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