I don't dispute that, I just applauded him professionally. He's a stroppy bastard, but he loves his football and never gives in.
Fair enough but yours is definitely agenda driven since i´ve read your posts about him for years now and your views and animosity is crystal clear. Nothing wrong with that, everyone has their own preferences. And i don´t take offence to Ronaldo being criticised at all, like i said i don´t care about that. I would probably care if he was a Sporting player. I´m pleased he won it (and Pepe) but i actually felt sorry for Atlético.
spot on, it's his time to celebrate and he should do it the way he wants
Exactly. He's always been like that and does not hide it.
1. You DO have an Agenda.
Get a grip. Football is theatre. If the game was full of players with magnolia personalities like Messi it would be worse off for it.
Very important point. His ego is no bigger than his ability and his achievements. There are players from Ibra to Bendtner with varying degrees of ability and ego but Ronaldo has it spot on!
I don't think that's the right use of the word agenda. I don't like his public persona and when it happens to be on-topic I'll mention that. I actually think he played better than many are saying here particularly in the second half. If Bale had made better decisions Ronaldo would've put them in front or equalised much earlier and he wasn't overly selfish. Would've got an assist too if Bale could finish. Certainly nothing like his performance in 08/09. If not for the last couple of minutes I wouldn't have had a bad word to say about him. I just thought it was annoying that he was completely unable to recognise that there were more important things going on right then than his own personal glory and fame.
I don't like him because of how he behaves...obviously. Why else would I not like him? Nah you're right, it's the xenophobia kicking in. Or maybe it's my broken heart.
Look, I've got my opinion, and you've got yours. He's always been a bit of an arse, in my opinion. Even when he winked at his coach after Rooney got sent off in the world cup.
Lol exactly
They're painting it out to look like he was just standing at the goal waiting for the penalty. Sad.
I really don't think it was more. Anyway, does any of the two care about that? The way Ronnie winds up people on hereJust think of the abuse Terry got for trying to take all the attention
That´s very eloquently put but i don´t actually believe in that. It´s not just about his public persona, your on going Ronaldo agenda (even when discussing his football ability) for years have shown me that. Like i said everyone has their own preferences, so it´s understandable.
TouchéJust think of the abuse Terry got for trying to take all the attention
I thought Ronaldo's celebration was way over the top but not surprising given his self absorbed nature at times. I am not frothing at the mouth like some others though. I am not sure how you can argue that all this criticism of Ronaldo now is not agenda driven since his OTT celebration seems to have become the biggest talking point after the biggest game of the season. Any neutral person would have been annoyed by it for about 5 minutes and then moved on. Not become obsessed with that act as some have on here.
True... still an over the top cnut sometimes.
Football isn't real life. If anything it is absurd theatre. If more people were able to comprehend that then you wouldn't have morons taking a pop at David Moyes when he is out with his wife.
Agreed. It was a mature performance tonight.
real madrid is an anagram for lad admirer, coincidence? @Vato
Personally I think that's only because people get accused of an agenda when they say something negative about Ronaldo. If people didn't take it in that direction then there wouldn't really be much else to say about it. It's the constant back and forth that drives and prolongs the Ronaldo-centred discussion.
You mean like when I said Ronaldo deserved the Ballon d'Or ahead of Messi 6 months ago? Or when I argued most weeks that Ronaldo was better than Messi 6 years ago? I don't agree at all. There's this really boring pro/against Ronaldo narrative that's been created and you're just placing me in that. There's lots about Ronaldo I love watching and lots I hate. His killer instinct is just incredible and almost unparalleled, his first touch is impeccable and very few can strike a ball like him. I love watching that and will miss all of it when he retires. It just so happens that his persona is one that rubs me up the wrong way. If you saw me react to someone like Ronaldo doing something hideously self-centred and vain while walking down the street you'd know that.
Yeah he should hang his head in shame the useless cnut
i've experienced the same thing.
it's a reoccuring theme i've noticed. It seems that ronaldo's reputation floats in an interesting realm, apparently he's been criticized so much, and so disproportionately to the true character that he demonstrates off the pitch, so now he's pretty much invulnerable from even discussing football weaknesses, it just becomes a 'ronaldo-hater' circle jerk. You can talk about things that ronaldo does on the pitch and it'll still devolve into ronaldo hate.
I might have been unfair but that´s how i felt about your opinions of Ronaldo. I didn´t read that, i usually don´t read those Ronaldo vs Messi threads since i like both players (must be an exception in what concerns portuguese people
) and i find those dicussions tedious.
