Please never leave us, Dave.
Trophies. Neuer has won too many, but David hasn't. Until De Gea start winning a lot of trophies, and doing well in UCL and for Spain, it will be like this. It doesn't make it right, but it has always been like this.Everywhere I read about De Gea they say - seriously challenging Neuer for best in the world. There's no comparision. Neuer always has a mistake or two in him. Watch him in a Champions league game and you can smell it coming if he gets too excited. He wishes he were as good as Spanish Dave.
David has been the best Goalkeeper around for three years now.
Tbh, and I know the whole "defenders & gk's aren't valued as much as strikers" bit is true - but I'd fleece anyone for much more than £50m, especially considering the market.He's the best Keeper I've ever seen I think. He's worth at least £50 million imo.
I agree with you to some extenet, but it's only because as you said yourself he's a GK, which is pretty much why I stopped at £50 million. Considering Buffon is 38 and has been the most expensive keeper for the last 15 years it just shows that clubs will seldom spend the huge millions on keepers. I genuinely think De Gea is the best keeper I've seen and when I think about it £50 Million doesn't seem enough when you look at the players who have gone for £40 Million + (D.Luiz & Sterling).... But keepers just don't demand those big fees. But if a keeper was to break the record it will be De Gea imo, he's still young and Neuer is 30 so he'll be retiring at Bayern.Tbh, and I know the whole "defenders & gk's aren't valued as much as strikers" bit is true - but I'd fleece anyone for much more than £50m, especially considering the market.
He's still young & the best in the world in his position. Hell give anyone another 10 years+ easily. In a market where very good players & top potential are touted at starting prices of £40m....id demand huge money.
Yeah, agreed. I just hope we didn't put in a £30-35m release clause in his contractI agree with you to some extenet, but it's only because as you said yourself he's a GK, which is pretty much why I stopped at £50 million. Considering Buffon is 38 and has been the most expensive keeper for the last 15 years it just shows that clubs will seldom spend the huge millions on keepers. I genuinely think De Gea is the best keeper I've seen and when I think about it £50 Million doesn't seem enough when you look at the players who have gone for £40 Million + (D.Luiz & Sterling).... But keepers just don't demand those big fees. But if a keeper was to break the record it will be De Gea imo, he's still young and Neuer is 30 so he'll be retiring at Bayern.
If someone at the club did put a clause in the contract and it was only in the £30-£35 range, than that employee probably felt that was a good deal for the club at the time. If you asked me in summer how much I thought De Gea was worth I would have told you £30 million, but his performances this season is making his valuation go way north. I don't see him going to Madrid either, he was banging on about wanting to be a United legend a few months back... That fax machine fecking up in August is going to win United an FA cupYeah, agreed. I just hope we didn't put in a £30-35m release clause in his contract
Yeah, i agree. It's frustrating though. There's a few "good alternatives" out there but they're all a level or even 2 below DDG. Imagine we got £40m for him? We wouldn't even be able to replace him with a Lloris for that money
let's hope the FA cup and lots of other trophies in the near futureIf someone at the club did put a clause in the contract and it was only in the £30-£35 range, than that employee probably felt that was a good deal for the club at the time. If you asked me in summer how much I thought De Gea was worth I would have told you £30 million, but his performances this season is making his valuation go way north. I don't see him going to Madrid either, he was banging on about wanting to be a United legend a few months back... That fax machine fecking up in August is going to win United an FA cup
I can almost feel their frustration.Everton fans must hate him. Think that's two or three highlight reel performances in a row against them.
I thought that it was just the press who disliked himI feel sorry for hating his guts during his first season.
@kietotheworldWho remembers that guy who was banned, Kie-something, spent months telling everyone De Gea wasn't very good and wasn't among the top 5 goalkeepers in the league. Wonder if he's finally changed his opinion
That was it! shame I can't search for some of his posts
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/david-de-gea-2011-14-performances.334187/page-255#post-12864144That was it! shame I can't search for some of his posts
Pop Quiz...ish.
If we HAD to sell one 22 year old, would you sell Welbeck or De Gea?
Tough ask, but...DDG. Though not necessarily because of inferior ability and/or potential.
See, I really like Danny, but I'd definitely sell him. Without even blinking tbh.
DDG is our No1 choice right now. Danny is our 4th choice striker. The amount of 'promising possibly-will-be-one-day-world-class TM' forwards is a far wider market than the amount of 'promising possibly-will-be-one-day world-class TM' goalkeepers. Not to mention that the peak for a forward is his mid to late 20s, whilst for a keeper it's his early to mid 30s.
There's really no rational contest.
You just know @Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber is having a wank to that gif.
Lenin said:He's made loads of mistakes. Reminds me of Craig Gordon. Cost twice as much though.
Lets face it if his name was Dave O'Hara he would be getting rightly slagged by everyone.
Lenin said:I hope we don't sell him.
So do I. Cost you the league and progression in CL last season.
Lenin said:He'd be the perfect fit there. Hope it happens.
He made a terrible choice to come to England. He's got one major weakness and chooses to go to the only league that consistently exploits it.
It's not a big shout, but De Gea, Courtois and Ter Stegen - in no particular order - will be this generation's premier keepers.
Two. He's very dodgy on shots from outside the area as well. Lets face it if it was Jack Butland playing like this nobody would be stating that he will be one of this generations premier keepers.
Lenin said:MotD didn't spot the save.
Save of the match: Replays show that David de Gea got fingertips to a Bryan Ruiz effort that cannoned back off the woodwork.
Source: http://www1.skysports.com/football/live/match/261803/report
It was probably save of the season so far.
They're talking about the Ba goal (genuine mistake), and Gerrard goal, which he did well to get to.
The Ba parry and Dzeko goal on his opening game are the only genuine long range shots he made a mistake in.
Not too bad, then, for 2 seasons.
Been watching the lad since he took over from Asenjo, he's truly going to be one of the best GK in the world. Long shots are his bread and butter, it's farcical to suggest otherwise. It's like saying Suarez can't meg someone.
Apt, as he has got butter fingers.
I swear there was also someone insistent that Craig Gordon was better and that we'd been robbed for De Gea.
The Danny Welbeck delusion on here is/was simply astonishing.Actually this was the best thing.
Sad but trueProbably would have had more records and trophies if he'd stayed at Atletico.
Maybe, there's still plenty of time here, we can hopefully reward him with an FA cup this season for a start.Probably would have had more records and trophies if he'd stayed at Atletico.