Those kinds of debates are weird. If England had George Best from 66 onwards I'm sure they'd have pushed Brazil in 1970...
Day 5: Hungary vs Portugal | France vs Germany
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Also people need to stop with the Pogba stuff. Pogba was class for most of this season for us, but definitely is used better in certain set ups. Makes a big difference when he isn't part of a double pivot next to only Fred or only McTominay, and he plays better for United when he's not in that position too.
Little bit homoerotic if anything.
ESPN: He still has a taste for victory!
They are totally in control. Germany would do the same thing.
Yes I also expected more. Two shots and only one decent chance created in 45 minutes.
Bingo
Did Suarez really start a movement of biting other players as a new form of dark arts?
just a playful nibble.Please don't.
that ITV font is shite I thought it was France 7 Germany 0 for a sec
Baffled at the overlooking of Pogba's pass here
Who knew, he was ahead of his time!
Not been a very high quality game really. Both sides sloppy 0 shots on target for Germany and only 1 from France.
Frightening how quickly France win the ball back, exactly like Spain a decade ago.
Germany had their moments but France overall shown even to be the team to beat as expected.
Germany had their moments but France overall shown even to be the team to beat as expected.
It's weird how good Pogba is for teams that are not Man Utd.
I don't know whether France deserves the lead or not, but Germany definitely didn't really do anything of note. Anytime people expect France to steamroll people, especially in the group stages, that's hardly ever going to happen, especially in a group like this. If it stays 1-0, I'm extremely happy and I think France is only going to grow during the tournament, the front three has minutes of experience together and Benzema is the new element in it that plays a huge part. There's nothing really surprising about it.
A far less talented Germany side but at least they've put the effort in. France have looked like they can't be arsed.
The phantom bite that wasn't a bite.
Parachute lad
I don't get what people expect from France, their play when on the ball is fantastic and defensively their solid, thays their identity in big games. Dunno why people are expecting them to fly. Their playing Germany, not a retirement home Croatia.
And the biting. And the basics of the modern pressing game. You can tell Vieira’s sitting there thinking wtf are these guys watching. That’s what you get when you choose “characters” as pundits I suppose.
I thought France were clearly the better team, some weird takes on here.
Yes, and after the goal it looks like France are sitting back and focusing on defending with a lot of players.
It was nice of Rudiger to check on parachute boy.
Didn't rate Matuidi particularly highly but Rabiot seems a downgrade
Still was fecking weird. Fits to Rüdiger who seems a strange and dirty fella.
People definitely equate all of Manchester United's failings to Pogba. Somehow forgetting it's a team sport.
We have lots of problems.
Our midfield partners being a major one. Neither McTominay or Fred are good enough to start week in week out for a top team.
Of the 3 teams Pogba has played for in his career we are the only one who blames him for out failings and seemingly "Can't fit him in"
For France they'd be a whole lot worse without him. Almost their entire creative output is though him. He dictates their play just like he did in the world cup.
We have lots of problems.
Our midfield partners being a major one. Neither McTominay or Fred are good enough to start week in week out for a top team.
Of the 3 teams Pogba has played for in his career we are the only one who blames him for out failings and seemingly "Can't fit him in"
For France they'd be a whole lot worse without him. Almost their entire creative output is though him. He dictates their play just like he did in the world cup.
Didn't found them that impressive tbh. Ppgba was ace in a few situations though. That pass before Hummels' own goal was brillant
Rabiot often slows the transition game down. Tolisso is made of glass unfortunately, but he's a better option IMO, moves the ball quicker.
Surely if Rudiger doesn't get punished for that then it's a 124522th proof for ueafa being bent.
I mean, is it actually? Most of his own supporters are reticent — I don’t expect more from a media that has spent his entire tenure back at the club against him to show some nuance for once.
Standard punditry when Pogba is involved.
He was just looking for a pre game snack.
It would most likely work versus all the teams below the top 6.
Fred and DM or McT or a new DM would be creatively crap.
Silly by Rudiger but absolutely impossible to see if he actually did bite him. He’s crazy enough to do it which is worrying. He got lucky as multiple replays made it hard to tell and VAR obviously didn’t think so.
The parachute guy is a clown too. What an idiot.
Pogba showing exactly how he would play if managed well. It’s obviously easier for him having Kante beside him but him and Kante are a force.
The parachute guy is a clown too. What an idiot.
Pogba showing exactly how he would play if managed well. It’s obviously easier for him having Kante beside him but him and Kante are a force.
This is how France play though - they aren't a free flowing attacking team. Look at their WC games, especially in the groups.
He also has more time and space then he'd usually get in the PL. This game isn't exactly being played at high intensity.
I also agree with others. Wtf does Rabiot actually do?
This is what you get with a water carrier in charge.
Feel like Pogbas been a lot better for us as well this season to be fair to him.