You guys are spoiled as hell manFor that kind of money i want a player who is a game changer at every level
Yeah PSG were butt yesterday. Neymar is just not the same for PSG that he was for Barcelona. And i mentioned before i don't think this version of Neymar is worth what PSG paid for him
And we're saving the money for Mbappé anyways, not neymar
Eden Hazard
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
But it seems it does now. Otherwise we would have signed Hazard
It appears that we've got neymar money in the bank, but they seem to be earmarked for one of Neymar or Mbappé. In all honesty if the choice is Hazard or one of those two, I'd rather not go for Hazard. But mostly i'd just want us to go for Mbappé
He hasn't been yet. Mbappé has a better resume in CL than him. Mbappé is also 19 and looks set to dominate the sport over the next decade. He's already as accomplished as Hazard or close to it, and while he may not be a better player yet, again he's 19.
Hazard was the best player we could have signed last summer. Evidently we didn't deem him worthy of the cost. He's just not yet proven himself the a game winner on the biggest stages
Yes yes, two PL, sure. Chelsea didn't have to beat Barcelona to them though. In fact, they beat a collection of has-beens and not-quite-there sides
Even in the PL, he's yet to have a Suarez-like season, where he absolutely dominates virtually every game he plays in and routinely wins by himself. The closest he got was 14/15. And in summer '15 i would have gladly spent neymar money on Hazard btw
Yeah they are. And it is pretty ridiculous some here are basing their decision of Hazard's quality based on if Real will buy him.
Yes, if you could get just one of those 3, makes sense to get Mbappe. That said, getting him from PSG is close to impossible, ditto Neymar so at least to me, it's just a case of you guys being happy to wait for Hazard to run down his contract some more.
We are. 4 CL in 5 years. And the goal is to keep on winning. That's why we can't settle for anything but the absolute best
If we can have him for a good price, maybe after a year of Sarri finally giving him that killer instinct he lacks, then sure
Would be stupid not to
Care to elaborate on said flaws please? The only ‘flaw' his critics seem to come up with which isn't insane is his goal scoring record. They neglect the fact that he's just not that type of player. He'd rather create that score himself.
I'm damn confident Hazard would be twice the player Neymar is today if he played with Messi and Suarez, with Iniesta behind them. Any player with top level talent would.
Now thankfully after he left for his own selfish reasons and pipe dream of surpassing Messi, we are seeing Neymar for the fraud he really is.
He was the main attacking fulcrum of Chelsea team that won 2 EPL titles and few cups. Point being, he actually led his team to win big trophies as the main man during the course of the season (with Chelsea not being considered as favorites in those cases). Something Neymar hasn't done once in his whole career as great as he is.If we can have him for a good price, maybe after a year of Sarri finally giving him that killer instinct he lacks, then sure
Would be stupid not to
Lacking killer instinct my ass. Just take him away from Chelsea finally.
And no one is worth Neymar money. That's the main reason why Madrid ain't paying it I presume.
Its hilarious really, people commenting judging Hazards quality saying he cant post stats like Salah.
In 07 when Kaka won the ballon d'or he had 18 goals all comps in 06/07 and 19 goals all comps in 07/08 everyone knew he was world class but can you imagine that now, it would be laughed off due to not scoring 30 tap ins or not having an Xg of 2.0
Theres various other examples Ronaldinho etc it goes but I guess that is just this age of football.
It strange because I'm not old myself yet I know how to watch football with my eyes and not just through stats.
This ... 1000% this. Hazard had Gervinho, Payet, Cabaye at Lille.
At Chelsea he got to play with Drogba, Lampard, Eto, and Fabregas but all toward the twilight of their careers.
Best striker he’s played with is Costa.
Otherwise he’s had Oscar, shit version of Fernando Torres, useless Morata, Pedro, Willian, and a few other mediocre or worse options.
Hardly comparable to the talent most of the others have had.
I'm delighted that Real Madrid don't think he's good enough. They are welcome to carry on without him.
If he has a season like that then he can go wherever he wants! £200 million and I'll drive him to the airportPray he doesn't actually score 40 goals this season
I fail to understand how that's so hard to understand. No player in world football would score 40 goals in our current side, not a Messi not a Ronaldo. While it's true that Hazard could be a bit more effective but expecting huge statistical achievements from him in the past Chelsea doesn't make sense.
After this season I think it'll be clearer where he features on the best player lists. Look at all the players he's being compared to and see the situation they play at. He's now in the same situation and if he fails to impress to that extent then maybe he can be slammed.
If he gets 40 this season I’d be absolutely confident he’d stay right where he is.Pray he doesn't actually score 40 goals this season
You have Isco, Benzema, Bale, Asensio starting in your team and you think Hazard should score 40+ plus a season to be ‘worthy' of Madrid? Did any of them hit 40+ before you bought them? Has any of them hit 40+ after you bought them? how about Kaka? Di Maria? Zidane? Its only Ronaldo I guess in recent memory and he only did it once at United.Pray he doesn't actually score 40 goals this season
Borders on pompous stupidity really.
The smileys were an indication he wasn't serious at all
@duffer You need to school better your fellow supporters in the art of banter on the caf
Yes, we do have Isco, Asensio, Bale and Benzema
And it was tongue in cheek(but it's true that if Hazard ends up scoring 40 goals Florentino will finally see him as worthy alternative to his obsession with Neymar)
Madrid are cnuts for not taking him away.
Perez just see Neymar as replacing all those Shirt sales he just lost. Mbappe is a tricky situation, he has his pace going for him right now a bit like Owen. What would happen when he loses that Pace.
He's 19. That pace won't be going anywhere for the next 8-10 years barring catastrophic injuries.
Plus he is great technically and has a great understanding. As long as he does not have any major injuries his pace should extend his prime.
When do you see Mbappe losing his pace? Besides, he has nifty feetwork, excellent decision making and good pass on him. He'll be aight in 2031/32 when he has lost some pace.
Pretty sure Madrod haven't tried to buy him cause they have Isco and now a manager that really believes in Isco.
Arguably the best ball carrier in Europe at this present time. It's no surprise he is flourishing playing in a postional based system. He is in the category just below Messi.
well their welcome to keep Isco. I know Roman would rather have Hazard in our team than 200 mil in the bank.
I wonder if Perez would feel the same if someone offer 200mil for Isco or Bale or Benzema or Asensio or Modric or ....
Thats what i mean. Barring any injury he will be right up there. Hes a young Michael owen right now. The world at his feet.
You had a strange way of saying that.
AyeYeah, overrated player
What a player
He's a ridiculous player. On form he's the best in the league. Wins you games on his own.
Absolutely world class. To think we could have got him.
Absurd goal - beat five players off the dribble before a perfect finish.
Probably the 2nd best player in the world after Messi
Remember when Jose fell out with him
That goal shits all over the one Salah won a FIFA award for
Fantastic player.
Imagine if we had him instead of Alexis.
Don't want to complain but there're literally 1353467 thread about Mourinho in the main forum to discuss this in, aren't they ?Remember when Jose fell out with him