It'd cost about £80m probably and really we only need one.
Eric Dier | Poch: “He is an important player for us and the idea is not to sell him."
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
I'd rather Fabinho and Aurier. Though I do like Dier as an option, given that we've got issues at centre back and we have looked fairly decent when playing 3 at the back so it could be an option going forward. Then again, Aurier can also play centrally.
I like Dier but if we're going to the hassle of trying to deal with Levy, there are a number of players I'd be looking at first.
Top of the list would be Alderweireld who is apparently seeking wage parity with the big names in their squad. Then Alli obviously, Kane, Dembele and either of their fullbacks would be more attractive than Dier.
I know we need someone in that role but I really want Fabinho for it.
Top of the list would be Alderweireld who is apparently seeking wage parity with the big names in their squad. Then Alli obviously, Kane, Dembele and either of their fullbacks would be more attractive than Dier.
I know we need someone in that role but I really want Fabinho for it.
We would be wise not to spend time with Levy and concentrate in getting better specialist players for each postion. Our club were poor in transfers mainly because instead of getting players when they are available we waste time in going for players who are not available.
Buy top players when they are available(ready to move clubs) and good players from second tier selling clubs.
Only last summer we have done really well in going for Zlatan and Mkhi(last year contract).
As the above posts we should go for specialist RB Aurier if he is available. He has also played RCB in 3 man Central Defense for much of his initial development in France.
Think he'd be a great signing, strong, good passing range, can cover CB, all things we need, remember how underwhelmed everyone was when we replaced keane with Carrick?
Ticks all the boxes for me, type of player that would alllow Pogba the freedom he needs to thrive.
Added bonus of being a united fan.
Ticks all the boxes for me, type of player that would alllow Pogba the freedom he needs to thrive.
Added bonus of being a united fan.
I really don't want us to sign him like. He's decent but nothing more than that and with him being both English and at Spurs he'd cost an exorbitant amount to sign.
He's simply not worth it when there are much better options out there.
He's simply not worth it when there are much better options out there.
I wouldn't be a fan of this.
Exactly, Fabinho is a much better player and is doing it in the CL as well, and I doubt he'd cost any more money than the fleecing Spurs would give us for Dier, I actually doubt many would be bothered if Dier wasn't English.
Fabinho is playing his first season in Europe as a holding midfielder for a team that has a horrific defensive record, not sure how you can see he's a much better player,
Don't get me wrong, I think he's a potentially very good player, just don't see what he's proved that Dier hasn't.
He's average.
Monaco have conceded 28 goals in 33 Ligue 1 matches.
I thought I was up in the 50's?! Don't know where I got that figure from
That small competition, how is it called? Ah yes, UEFA Champions League.
Fabinho is the better player IMO, clearly. He is Brazilian though, and they tend to struggle in EPL. Dier knows the league well, so that counts in his favor. I think that I would be happily with either of them, but Fabinho is both a better and more exciting player.
Their defensive record isn't that bad and I am judging them based on watching their performances only, you can't hold one player purely responsible for a defensive record, whether it's good or bad, I'm just judging Fabinho on his attributes in the role like positioning and his composure on the ball when under pressure.
He's played well when ive seen him in the CL to be fair, but I have no faith in signing players from the French league, and its a bit of a risk as you say signing Brazilian
Nahn i wasnt holding him responsible at all, I was just meaning that its difficult to judge a CDM when he plays for a team that is so open, which Monaco have been, he looks promising,both would be good and bring different attributes to the role, down to personal preference really
We're not getting Dier. Stop entertaining the rumour of Spurs actually selling us a player for £stupid million.
That counts for little.
It's Mourinho type of signings I want us to get.
After his Bailly coup, I trust him to get us this unhyped gems.
brilliantly put. Also, Fabinho would cost considerably less than Dier
It ain't happening.
But with the silly season, logic falls right out of the window.
Because Payet, Kante and Marshall struggled to make the transition
A guy who doesn't really play centre back very often for them, being signed by us, presumably for centre back? Unlikely.
A player from Tottenham, with the grand master moneyman at the head of negotiation? Even less likely!
A player from Tottenham, with the grand master moneyman at the head of negotiation? Even less likely!
He looks and plays like he doesn't have much brains.
Who is Marshall?
There's obviously exceptions, but generally I don't trust players from there,
I think he'd be signed as a holding midfielder primarilly,and to provide cover at CB
My bad, Martial.
The point I'm trying to make is that there have been several successful transfers from the Ligue 1 recently. Certainly enough to dispel skepticism. Or is there something obvious I'm missing?
Eric Cantona, David Ginola, Robert Pires, Patrick Viera, Thierry Henry, William Gallas, Patrice Evra, Michael Essien, Eden Hazard, N'Golo Kante are some of the most important players in PL history.
There's also been successful signings from Holland, doesn't change the fact there's several bad ones as well, we need players who can come in straight away and perform, dier is far less of a risk.
Schneiderlin was even more proven than Dier and still failed, it doesnt say anything.
Ill give you those, didn't realise all of those came straight from ligue 1 though?
I'll give you those, but thennoll throw out Barthez , Bellion, Cheyrou,
Except he really wasnt, hed performed well in a mid table to 6th placed team, Dier has been a mainstay I now 2 title challenging teams.
I personally went off him when the very average injury prone left winger at my other team Wycombe absolutely made him look twobob in our FA cup game at their place.
Dier was one of 2 actual first teamers they had starting, but you'd not have known it.
Arguably he was. Schneiderlin was the better performing midfielder compared to Wanyama in that Southampton set up and Wanyama now keeps Dier out from playing in his preferred CDM position at Spurs. Saying that, I don't think there's much of a difference in level between Fabinho and Dier, but Fabinho is reportedly available as he has a verbal agreement to leave Monaco, while Spurs wouldn't want to sell Dier to us for any reasonable price.
I think he would be very good in a midfield three behind Pogba and Herrera. He would provide defensive cover which would allow Pogba and to a certain extent Herrera more offensive freedom.
He's a good player but he certainly wouldn't improve our midfield.
For £40m we can sign any midfielder outside the top 10 bracket. I'd rather we sign Fabinho.
For £40m we can sign any midfielder outside the top 10 bracket. I'd rather we sign Fabinho.
I wouldn't put William gallas on that list.
think he's massively underated on the caf. he's young, reads the game very very well and breaks up play. wouldn't be a one season wonder. sign me up scottie.
Drogba is another top class player. Giroud has done half decent too.
Agree with the bold part. If we're dealing with Levy, at least ask for Alderweireld first before bidding on Dier. I'd be shocked if he sold us any of the others, but I think Alderweireld & Dier are at least 'gettable', while I'm not sure Dembele would be Jose's cup of tea. I'd think he'd rather have Wanyama, but I hope he favors Fabinho over any of the Spur DM/CMs.
Just saw this.
Just to sidetrack a bit, the fact that a national newspaper can take quotes from here reinforced my belief that all these journalism/news about transfers and football news are all researched from here and they are just as clueless as us.
The point of transfer rumors are not to be factual.Just saw this.
Just to sidetrack a bit, the fact that a national newspaper can take quotes from here reinforced my belief that all these journalism/news about transfers and football news are all researched from here and they are just as clueless as us.
Dier would twat Herrera like he threatened to already.