Kills what? I never made any matter of factly statements about managers not capitulating nor that we will be an all conquering team.
What good system relies on that, in fact which good team has ever had a system that require or promote taking multiple touches before passing, outside of dribblers dribbling?
You don't know what you're saying and you're trying to defend the indefensible.
I remember how Gary was torn apart for being one of the most useless managers to ever exist. Yet we have an equally useless buffoon at United and 50% of United fansnwant to keep him. It'd be hilarious if not for the fact I care about the club
Expectations are in the gutter. Any sort of win is vindication of his management for some
until casamiro is fit Mainoo and Erikson is the way forward. Erikson has some defensive limitations but only when he plays do we start to resemble a team that can play football. Erikson was crucial to last seasons sucess
Please, other than the little cup win everything else is worse than ole! At least we knew what we were and good at. And we score so many more goals; could always come back after being a goal or two down.
You claimed that the poster knows nothing about tactics so maybe you can shed some light on those.
It's suicidally naive to play that style with a front five that has zero ball retention skills and severely lacking in tactical nous - see how City are notorious with committing quick cynical fouls to stop counters? They know their system's vulnerability and have to plan to mitigate against whilst we get more yellows for whining rather than tactical fouls.
You don’t get the opportunity to be in advanced positions in the PL and take multiple touches and wait for your forward line to find space. You get that in Holland because the opposition are shit for the most part. You need quick, slick passing, side to side while you open the opposition up. Even Pep realised this not soon after he arrived.
Yeah but that league cup was really the World Cup so it’s understandable
That's my thinking too and I'm hoping he gets thrown in but I'm not sure I trust Ten Hag to do that at this stage.
No we haven't. No manager has done better than a cup and top 4 in their tenure. If anything Ten Hag got this on the board earlier than any of the previous managers.
Of course:
We didn't get hammered 0-7 against Liverpool again, that was progress apparently.
By your logic every manager who's played McTominay has given up tbf instant they played him. That clearly isn't true.
First of all this playing for 0-0 argument dies if our striker doesn't fluff his chance against Alisson.
Unfortunately for you - today I've got time. Ask anyone with adequate reading comprehension to review our exchange and ask them who doesn't know what they're saying.
Yes, let’s stick it out with an incompetent and under performing manager because we’ve sacked incompetent and underperforming managers in the past. We also shouldn’t buy players ever again since we’ve made bad buys and have been there before
No one is saying sacking Ten Hag will “solve all problems” - it will solve some however. United needs structural AND managerial change.
Yes, Ten Hag is not able to coach the players he found here nor the players he brought in, but somehow the DoF will magically find the players he can coach and fix his formation as team selections, the fact he can’t arrange a cohesive defensive shape, his substitutions and in-game management. Genius
Besides, at no point in my posts did I argue what you need “more” or “before”. That’s not even taking in consideration that managerial change can be actioned much sooner and again fix some of our existing problems. Again, structural and managerial change aren’t mutually exclusive and evidently - both are needed at United.
Much like you previous post you’re arguing strawmen. Read above.
what are you talking about and where did I say we should have played for a draw? What?
Criminal negligence?
Bad argument. Not at all my logic. He wasn't transfer listed under the previous managers and there was never a talk of moving him on.
You still don't know anything about tactics or football in general it seems.
How can I have a serious conversation when people are so shameless and intellectually dishonest in their replies/arguments.
Let me be clear, no top has a system where the players are expected to take multiple touches before passing it. What you describe is the antithesis of Ajax system, it's the antithesis.
No system change can suddenly make us score enough to get top 4.
In fairness from the exchanges that I've seen, you are making little to no sense here.
It's exactly your logic. You said that playing McTominay means we're in survival mode, because there's no place for him if we're playing progressive football. If you're going to make such childish definitive statements, then the logic can be followed to absurd results.
why?
You openly call Solskjaer shite, a man who finished 2nd (better than Ten Hag) and then even have the audacity to suggest Ten Hag is the best because he won a carling cup in his first season.
I probably missed it but why the tactics or team used against Liverpool weren't suitable for this game?
Because against Liverpool we were happy to defend deep and played for a draw taking what could come along.
It's not though. And youre just purposely being obtuse about the fact that our entire ownership has been up in the air for a year, and weirdly assuming that has no adverse effect on the manager. You think Ole performed better than Ten Hag? Longest drought without a cup and his prime style wasn't evolved upon for 3x longer than what you're whinging about with Ten Hag.
Ten Hags second season is shite. And he has made a fair few shite calls. I'm not afraid to say that, what's your point?
