Let me put it this way. Sacking ETH doesn't immediately solve any of our problems.
But even if sacking him has a 1% chance of improving our play, keeping him has a 0% chance. And 1% is still an infinity greater than 0.
Erik ten Hag - Manchester United manager
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But even if sacking him has a 1% chance of improving our play, keeping him has a 0% chance. And 1% is still an infinity greater than 0.
I don't think our attacking players are as bad as his tactics make them look. Yeah even Antony I think would look half decent under a better manager.
Sacked after Liverpool
Not taking Bruno off is on him
The only thing that may save Ten Hag is inertia. The INEOS takeover seems to mean no significant football decision are being taken. Being smashed by Bournemouth and then, probably, Bayern and Liverpool would ordinarily be curtains.
Today feels like primarily his fault, persisting with the 5-0-5 against a team that was all too happy to sit back and counter through our non-existent midfield. Plus relying on Martial, making no half time changes. Newcastle felt like a distinct lack of effort from the players but today the blame has to be firmly on ten Hag
Sorry, but what value in keeping him? That is the pertinent question.
Standards here are absolutely shocking these days.
As a club we can hope that we get a new structure in place and that we start doing things properly going forward, but for now it is clear ETH is not the answer.
Could you try actually answering the question?
To be fair, it's not like Bruno ever performs at Anfield
Maybe emotions are high right now but I honestly think he’s down the bottom of those four definitely. Van Gaal won a better trophy, and Jose won more trophies, Jose had a higher league finish, as did Ole. He has a trophy win (however fugazi) over Ole but Ole’s football at its best > Hag’s football here
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He seriously underestimated the athleticism of the Premier League with his signings and the teams he plays. Every club can break on us with impunity with powerful runners.
So will it be opened for discussion again at FT?
Here's one for you.. we are 0-3 at home against a shit team with 10 mins to go. You are about to make 3 changes and in the back of your mind you know if your captain gets a yellow he'll miss your next game which happens to be the biggest game of your season. Do you a) keep him on? b) take him off?
We didn't know those comments to know that though. His management for months has told he's an idiot
Whatever about who you think for A but the obvious answer to B is a director of football.
B is the main reason ETH has to go. Squandering 55 mil on a midfielder who doesn't fit in and he doesn't play. Or a right forward who doesn't score or assist.
He has spent enough to not be still playing Dalot or Shaw at CB. But he spent it in the wrong areas of the pitch and we are paying dearly for it, again.
This is harsh on Moyes and Ralf.
Ole to bring the vibes in the new year with Sancho and recalled Greenwood leading us to 4th and Ole's permentany reinstatement.
This argument suggests that we should simply keep him by default, no matter how bad he is
Yes it does, or are you saying ETH is not one of our problems?
I hate this group of players but there is not another club in the league playing a formation or style like ours. Most people on this forum can see it but the man paid millions to actually see this is clueless
Sack him now this is the worst result in years
He needs to be gone today, we have been atrocious since February.
I am done with ETH now.
I know it's not all his fault, but let's look at what we do know:
Tactically? Nobody has a clue what he wants and he seems an average coach at best
Man management? Players don't like him and he's alienated several players
No charisma either. Robotic.
We can do better than this. He's not the man.
I know it's not all his fault, but let's look at what we do know:
Tactically? Nobody has a clue what he wants and he seems an average coach at best
Man management? Players don't like him and he's alienated several players
No charisma either. Robotic.
We can do better than this. He's not the man.
Shouldn't be the case. Can we not for once take action before then and avoid another utter humiliation.
Any time that he now CHOOSES to play martial he looks a tw*t. Everyone sees it, martial is no longer a footballer. Stick him in the reserves
In next seven days we will be out from Europe and get spanked by Liverpool. No way that he will be a manager next Monday.
I did! We’ve so far, post fergie, hired 3 unqualified managers and 2 past it managers. We need to hire better. Who exactly? I don’t know, I don’t really watch much football outside of Man Utd. If I was getting paid a fat wage to be in charge of hiring though, I’m pretty confident I’d do a better job than what we’ve had served up so far
The premier league is all about midfields..reason why Pep tries to cram 6 players in their and yet here are playing with 1.
Yes
Guys, he’s not responsible for signings, tactics or motivating the players. None of this is on him.
Not his fault if players constantly make poor decisions. Poor pass, poor deliveries, picking wrong options all the time. On top of that, our player IQ level must be the lowest in the league. 3 yellows for dissent today says it all.
I'll reiterate it again: The worst United manager since Sir Alex retired.
Total fraud.
It'll take a while to recover from the damage he has caused/continues to cause.
Total fraud.
It'll take a while to recover from the damage he has caused/continues to cause.
Said before most organised teams with a plan will turn us over easy peasy all season.
Squads awful, owners awful, manager awful. Though pretty sure other managers can get a bit more out of these players.
Dont think there is a project ETH it was just another new manager bounce and its over now, as should be his tenure.
Squads awful, owners awful, manager awful. Though pretty sure other managers can get a bit more out of these players.
Dont think there is a project ETH it was just another new manager bounce and its over now, as should be his tenure.
I guess this is his Watford
What’s even the point of not sacking him.
I will not trust him with a single penny.
The absolute shite he has bought rivals Van Gaal, the football too.
I will not trust him with a single penny.
The absolute shite he has bought rivals Van Gaal, the football too.
Going nowhere under him, not a single sign of progression on the pitch and has openly said he's not gunning for the style of football that has the fanbase wanting him in the first place.
Likely dumped out of the Champions League in the group conceding 14 goals in the process and probably about to get bent over by our biggest rivals after losing 0-3 to Bournemouth at home.
The fact that is doesn't really feel like his job is at threat is a problem in itself.
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Likely dumped out of the Champions League in the group conceding 14 goals in the process and probably about to get bent over by our biggest rivals after losing 0-3 to Bournemouth at home.
The fact that is doesn't really feel like his job is at threat is a problem in itself.
Edit: 0-4
Sack now.
~goal difference even Everton's is better. Sorry but i have totally changed my take on ETH. He just doesn't get it, same as the players.
If he thought playing Martial wasn't going to get him the sack well he is about to find out. A total waste of 60mins todays.
If he thought playing Martial wasn't going to get him the sack well he is about to find out. A total waste of 60mins todays.
Hire an Eredivisie manager, sign him eredividie players.
What do you expect.
What do you expect.