A lot of people compare Ten Hag to Arteta and Arsenal keeping the faith. In his first season, at their lowest point Arsenal lost 8 of their first 14 league games, quite similar to us really but harder games like Man City, Spurs and Liverpool away. But then they had 47 points in their next 23 (which would average as a 77 point season), then a 'bottled' outside top 4 with 68 points, then 84 points last season.
If Ten Hag turned around and won 47 points in the next 22 games, we might be onto something, but does anyone think that will happen? Our next three games are Liverpool (A), West Ham (A), Aston Villa (H), we would need 6 points + from that to get any kind of momentum going. Most likely we will get 1-3 points from those games, possibly even 0 points, could anyone say we are on the right trajectory as well.
Klopp's first few seasons at Liverpool as well you could see the style of play, in terms of crazy pressing and fast-paced attacking. The defence and goalkeeper were just a shambles, but at least they had a clear strength in attack and the rest just needed to be refined. They never lost that verve in attack. What are United's strengths?
If they were brilliant at the back and lots of 0-0s and 1-0s, at least a top striker might lead to a big upturn in form. If they were brilliant in attack and were conceding 2-3 a game with stupid mistakes, then you could point to needing 1-2 top-class defenders (like Van Dijk and Alisson when they arrived at Liverpool) to hit the next level. Liverpool scored 63 goals... then 78 goals, then 84 goals and scored over 80 goals for 3 straight seasons... we can barely score 60 goals a season.
But there are no strengths. The defence just conceded the most goals of any English team in CL history. The attack is toothless, they are the 15th top scorers in the league (!). -3 goal difference. So what are we supposed to be good at?