Mate this shtick is tedious, give it a rest. Even without assinging blame my point is the fact it happened along with the Rashford incident are the objective events. They did happen didn't they? So in your opinion has stamped out disciplinary issues within this squad?
It is tedious, you keep trying to slide this stuff in and then claim ignorance. The fact that they happened are objective, your statement that Sancho was both of their fault I reject. While he hasn't stamped out disciplinary issues (which is impossible, and a silly standard to hold anyone to), he has dealt with them all well.
Well we all hope, but in that case we can't actually say that there will be a tangible benefit to him persisting with this system all season. Yeah we might eventually learn another system, but that will most likely be when we get a new manager in.
And a new manager will be in the same situation, a bunch of players assembled to play a different style of football to the style they want to play. Which I'm OK with as given the new footballing structure it'll hopefully be the last time, but we'll be rubbish for a while until we can get to grips with that new system, especially as it'll almost certainly require new players who can make it work.
It doesn't at all. A new system can be implemented at any time. The fact he's stuck with this one will likely mean he won't get another season to implement fully whatever the hell it is he is trying to implement. It's ok to be pragmatic and change tactics to get results and see out the season especially with the injuries we've had. He's basically wrote off this season to dogmatically stick with a system that doesn't work and/or he doesn't have the players to make work. It's silly.
A new system can't just be implemented like that. It's madness to suggest that we could just try to play another proactive style and make it work overnight. Any new system would take a lot of time to implement. We could revert back to our old system, the mid block, that seems to be what you're suggesting with the pragmatic approach, but if we take that approach we delay our grasping of the system we're trying to learn. If you stop doing something whenever it gets tough, you'll never master it. No matter who comes in, if they want to play anything that isn't a mid block, then we're going to take a few beatings at minimum and it'll be a while before we master it. If we take the "pragmatic" approach and stop whenever it gets tough, we'll never master it.
I think there's a fair argument to be had as to whether Ten Hag's system is one that can carry us to consistent success at it's best, I myself am wavering due to the lack of control it offers sometimes, but if we go with no and aim for a different system with different managers then we'll still have to have the patience to push through the inevitable problems we'll have adopting that system.