[Seven Seas Sardines]

Herrera and Mata have become such horrible footballers. Herrera can't complete two straight passes, and still haven't got through that thick head of his that his shooting is bloody awful. Mata can't dribble, cross or finish to save the life of him and constantly ruins our attacks and counters with his lack of vision and backwards passing.

 

[Smores]

Are some of you stuck on moan mode or something?

That was not dreadful

 

[Drawfull]

Lads, I have stew and soup in the freezer. Which should I go for?

Not enough info.

 

[Sandikan]

Martial isn't a striker for me at the moment at least. He just doesn't feel as natural as when attacking from the left side.

His first instinct is trying to run it in from wherever he is. Which simply isn't practical at times.
You can have a few games with a Martial or Rashford up top, but more often than not you see why you need a Lukaku force.

 

[Android1974]

Based on their touches, maybe we should be explicitly playing 4-3-1-2, like this

Lingard
Mata Martial​

 

[edgar allan]

This

As was the case when Lukaku was playing

 

[AllezLesDiables]

On Earth.

Earth18

 

[prath92]

Shaw while solid offers less width than Lindelof. Mata is kind of pointless in this game. Herrera and martial misplacing passes.

 

[Jazz]

Come on, we haven't been that bad compared to the dross served up in the Southampton game. There's not a lot of confidence at the moment and they are trying. Yes some brainless decisions going on mostly through nerves I think.

 

[SAFicus]

We win the ball back and pass it around at the back. How is there no plan for a quick transition in that team?

I think there is. Just half of our players can't do it.

Watch Pogba. Almost every time he gets the ball he turns and drives us forward. Every other player seems to feel an invisible breath on the back of their neck and play it in the direction they are facing. In fact by my count Lindelof has played as many forward passes as mata or herrera.

I've said it for weeks, put another creative player in with Pogba (of a similar quality) and the way we play would be unrecognisable.

 

[pauldyson1uk]

We're playing well so far. Don't know why people are criticizing Herrera, has been very good imo.

Everton are dreadful going forward. If we concentrate we can nick it 1-0.

We are dreadful, not a single proper chance, rubbish passing, in fact we are just rubbish.

 

[DeOddi]

You could probably say that 1st half is a bit of an improvement compared to our last few games, but still not good enough. Still too slow, not enough movement, and when we are in a good position the pass is bad or the touch too sloppy.

No real standout performer for us, maybe Lingard who had quite a few very good dribblings and touches.

 

[Kapardin]

Martial isn't a striker for me at the moment at least. He just doesn't feel as natural as when attacking from the left side.

And he's not been great on the left either. So can we finally accept we need an upgrade and either keep Martial as a second option or loan him out to develop him.

 

[OnlyTwoDaSilvas]

Keep hearing that everyone is adament that Martial is a centre forward, but I just don't see it. Doesn't seem to like being in that position, and is rarely occupying a centreback. He keeps drifting wide and coming really deep, almost as if Lingard is the centre forward today and not him. Martial's best attributes come from getting the ball wide left and making those direct runs towards goal. For me, he's definitely more of a LW/wide forward than a #9.

He hasn't played particularly badly, but he's not had any presence upfront.

 

[dwd]

Dalglish's daughter and Souness in the studio. Impartial as ever.

 

[Toad]

money talks

Surprised we haven’t gone for pornhub premium on our sleeves.

 

[Offside]

Are some of you stuck on moan mode or something?

That was not dreadful

Some of us can remember a time when not having a single chance in a must win game was considered completely unacceptable. Unfortunately now it doesn’t seem to be. It’s better than v Southampton but still utter garbage.

 

[Son Of Sam]

Criminally lack players with brains. I thought Lingard was decent this half but that run where we were 3 on 2 and he sprinted 30 yards completely ignoring Martial making a run (maybe not even ignoring but running towards him...) just to make a stupid shot sums it up.

Mourinho is a defensive manager. He must have told Lingard to give the ball away so we can show the world our defensive might when Everton get the ball.

 

[VeevaVee]

We haven't been that bad, but we haven't been much of anything, which happens too often.

 

[edgar allan]

Are some of you stuck on moan mode or something?

That was not dreadful

If you thought we played well in the first half you must have been watching it through Jose tinted glasses.

 

[kouroux]

And he's not been great on the left either. So can we finally accept we need an upgrade and either keep Martial as a second option or loan him out to develop him.

He hasn't I won't deny it but we know how good he can be there

 

[HankHill]

Rojo's tackle/block was the highlight of the half.

That says enough.

 

[Android1974]

Balanced (or more than nullified each other):
Possession
Home 44%
Away 56%
Shots
Home 7
Away 10
Shots on Target
Home 0
Away 1

 

[NJM78]

This isn’t going to get better is it...at least we have the World Cup to look forward to watching.

 

[Judas]

We've played so much worse than that, so often this season, I wonder if people on here even watch the game or just copy and paste an already thought up post that wrote before kickoff.

 

[Rajma]

Honestly??? You think they have played well?

Yep, they clearly look standouts among the average that surrounds them.

 

[No Idea For Nickname]

Percentage, Thierry!!

 

[RedPed]

Before we get our knickers in a twist, all the other 3pm games were 0-0 at HT. We need to improve though, that's for sure!

 

[Freak]

Mata again holds us back, he cuts inside with sideways passing and offers zero penetration. That said he is not a right winger.

His role is not of a right winger anyway. He starts on the right but he’s expected to come inside and create. The thing is, he creates feck all because he’s too much of a coward to play the risky pass.

 

[kouroux]

His first instinct is trying to run it in from wherever he is. Which simply isn't practical at times.
You can have a few games with a Martial or Rashford up top, but more often than not you see why you need a Lukaku force.

1 touch inside the box is a proof of that.

 

[saivet]

Why do people call players cowards so often?

 

[AllezLesDiables]

the opinions on how we played that half couldn't be more polar.

North or South?

 

[Sparky Rhiwabon]

We're not very good are we?

I doubt that Big Sam has ever faced a Jose line up as bad as this - must fancy his chances to break his Mourinho duck

 

[dove]

Relax you drama queens. We were far from dreadful. Had quite a few good chances to counter attack but a) we don't have a single winger and b) our forward plays more like a winger.

 

[waza7111]

I think we'll get a chance to score but it'll probably only be one chance. Hopefully we take it.

 

[Bastian]

Wow. Do people honestly think we've been dire? We are in a slump, playing every other day it seems and the team is playing fast passing football with good movement. I will forgive them for not being totally crisp. It's a very positive change from what we've been seeing. Feel it shows how beneficial two things are: freeing up Pogba and going with fluidity up front.

 

[Pace Abuser]

State of this.

Man, you are abusing something more than pace for sure...

Someone likes drawing attention to themselves

This is how today’s fans back their team.

Don't drain his coincidence.

Yes, competely down to drawing attention or being a poor fan. The first half completely defies what I said.

 

[prath92]

Though we are playing ok considering we don’t have our first choice CB (bailly), first choice fullbacks (Valencia and young) first choice striker (lukaku).

 

[Nytram Shakes]

Herrera and Mata have become such horrible footballers. Herrera can't complete two straight passes, and still haven't got through that thick head of his that his shooting is bloody awful. Mata can't dribble, cross or finish to save the life of him and constantly ruins our attacks and counters by his lack of vision and backwards passing.

its quite sad considering, i rember when i first saw them in the team togther they seemed to have such a great connection and speed of passing..... its like LVG and Mourinho have just sucked all the creativity out of them

 

[ivaldo]

Come on you’re normally a sensible poster if you are happy with Herrera this game then there is no point continuing this conversation as we are polls apart in our thinking.
Sorry mate as far as I’m concerned Herrera Lingard Mata Rojo Blind Darmain are all for the exit the sooner the better if we want to start competing for titles.

You're never happy with Herrera. It's a damning inditment when a supporter will actively only say bad things about one of our own. He misplays a pass and you're all over him. He plays a very good pass and you ignore it entirely. What does that say?