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Dr. Funkenstein

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3 WCs up there with the best in race wins most poles , says other wise.
So he has beaten Kovalainen and Rosberg twice out of three attempts, if that makes a fantastic driver, what would you call Vettel?

You just don't like him.
As a person I quite like him, but as a F1 driver he's mentally too weak for me to like him. I like it when drivers, or other sportsmen at a high level, are at their best when the going gets tough and it matters most, so I haven't been a fan. But I don't blame him for beeing hyped his whole career, that's not his fault but is what annoys me most about him. He's very quick when everything is going his way, but he's only been in competitive, very competitive or superior cars his whole career. A fantastic driver would have done a lot more with those.
 

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In fairness that doesn't counter the accusation that he needs the car to be perfect.
You can say the same about any driver, Vettel , how I also think is a fantastic driver, did nothing last season in a poor car.
Even the likes of Senna , Prost and Shu struggled in poor cars.
I like Lewis , he was the driver that got me watching F1 again after many years, in fact from watching the Senna crash.
All the criticism at him is all valid, when it is not going his way he moans a groans, is that any different to Red Bull saying they will pull out if they dont get engines they want or moaning about this wing and that bolt.
 

Rado_N

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You can say the same about any driver, Vettel , how I also think is a fantastic driver, did nothing last season in a poor car.
Even the likes of Senna , Prost and Shu struggled in poor cars.
I like Lewis , he was the driver that got me watching F1 again after many years, in fact from watching the Senna crash.
All the criticism at him is all valid, when it is not going his way he moans a groans, is that any different to Red Bull saying they will pull out if they dont get engines them want or moaning about this wing and that bolt.
Vettel won Monza in a Torro Rossa. Alonso is probably the best in the modern sport at putting a car higher up the rankings then it deserves to be. Hamilton hasn't ever really (to my admittedly poor memory) outdriven his car that I can think of.

Granted he's not really had to all that often.
 
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pauldyson1uk

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A new leader in the Fantasy League this week.

Wicked_badgers jumps from 5th to 1st and I dropped from 1st to 3rd :( but with a very slender lead of 1 point over TT_Caf in second.


Team of the week
First is Wicked_badgers with 113 points, no shock there and by 14 points, well done.
Second is Evan GP with 99 points
Third is Red Shift with 97 points

Next race is in Spain 14th May lights out at 13:00 (UK time)
Get your changes in or not.


1st saforrest Wicked_badgers 391
2nd the taurean TT_Caf 390
3rd pauldyson1uk Billy Jack Racing 386
4th eric cartman Cartman 384
5th balljy RedShift 380
6th venkman Toyoda 370
7th hp88 hp88 356
8th senorgregster Hamilton Academical 354
9th impulse Team 3 353
10th evan7788 Evan GP 351
11th thegrumpylion GrumpyLions 336
12th screech44 Redfish-Alfa 336
13th giggsy92 TeamRocket 331
14th christy87 Langers on a mission 331
15th edweatherall Elbow Licking at 200MPH 328
16th dpansheth Rock 325
17th scottyj17 FC Ronaldo 312
18th jd094 Mirror, Signal, Maldonado 303
19th spwd MANSELLS MOUSTACHE, 299
20th dargonk Dargon's crew 278
 

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Vettel won Monza in a Torro Rossa. Alonso is probably the best in the modern sport at putting a car higher up the rankings then it deserves to be. Hamilton hasn't ever really (to my admittedly poor memory) outdriven his car that I can think of.

Granted he's not really had to all that often.
Cant really argue with that.
 

Wicked_Badger

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A new leader in the Fantasy League this week.

Wicked_badgers jumps from 5th to 1st and I dropped from 1st to 3rd :( but with a very slender lead of 1 point over TT_Caf in second.

Team of the week
First is Wicked_badgers with 113 points, no shock there and by 14 points, well done.
Second is Evan GP with 99 points
Third is Red Shift with 97 points

Next race is in Spain 14th May lights out at 13:00 (UK time)
Get your changes in or not.


1st saforrest Wicked_badgers 391
2nd the taurean TT_Caf 390
3rd pauldyson1uk Billy Jack Racing 386
4th eric cartman Cartman 384
5th balljy RedShift 380
6th venkman Toyoda 370
7th hp88 hp88 356
8th senorgregster Hamilton Academical 354
9th impulse Team 3 353
10th evan7788 Evan GP 351
11th thegrumpylion GrumpyLions 336
12th screech44 Redfish-Alfa 336
13th giggsy92 TeamRocket 331
14th christy87 Langers on a mission 331
15th edweatherall Elbow Licking at 200MPH 328
16th dpansheth Rock 325
17th scottyj17 FC Ronaldo 312
18th jd094 Mirror, Signal, Maldonado 303
19th spwd MANSELLS MOUSTACHE, 299
20th dargonk Dargon's crew 278
Awesome. Got lucky with Bottas, Vettel & Perez as my driver line up :D

Should have been 2nd in the overall standing this week but didn't make the list on the site for some reason.
 

pauldyson1uk

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Wicked is likely missing week 1 points as well. I believe we had the same team back then? Check it @Wicked_Badger
pretty sure all the points are correct.
This is the point history for the 4 races so far.

1st saforrest Wicked_badgers 82 97 95 113 391
2nd the taurean TT_Caf 100 90 106 94 390
3rd pauldyson1uk Billy Jack Racing 102 92 106 86 386
4th eric cartman Cartman 98 90 108 88 384
5th balljy RedShift 101 87 95 97 380
6th venkman Toyoda 73 90 108 95 370
7th hp88 hp88 88 61 111 96 356
8th senorgregster Hamilton Academical 82 97 83 88 354
9th impulse Team 3 69 81 108 95 353
10th evan7788 Evan GP 76 87 89 99 351
11th thegrumpylion GrumpyLions 84 96 79 77 336
12th screech44 Redfish-Alfa 82 92 64 94 336
13th giggsy92 TeamRocket 84 73 81 89 331
14th christy87 Langers on a mission 83 61 91 96 331
15th edweatherall Elbow Licking at 200MPH 77 79 78 94 328
16th dpansheth Rock 79 79 70 97 325
17th scottyj17 FC Ronaldo 82 79 79 72 312
18th jd094 Mirror, Signal, Maldonado 82 94 64 63 303
19th spwd MANSELLS MOUSTACHE, 71 95 70 63 299
20th dargonk Dargon's crew 58 68 82 70 278
 

senorgregster

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pretty sure all the points are correct.
This is the point history for the 4 races so far.

1st saforrest Wicked_badgers 82 97 95 113 391
2nd the taurean TT_Caf 100 90 106 94 390
3rd pauldyson1uk Billy Jack Racing 102 92 106 86 386
4th eric cartman Cartman 98 90 108 88 384
5th balljy RedShift 101 87 95 97 380
6th venkman Toyoda 73 90 108 95 370
7th hp88 hp88 88 61 111 96 356
8th senorgregster Hamilton Academical 82 97 83 88 354
9th impulse Team 3 69 81 108 95 353
10th evan7788 Evan GP 76 87 89 99 351
11th thegrumpylion GrumpyLions 84 96 79 77 336
12th screech44 Redfish-Alfa 82 92 64 94 336
13th giggsy92 TeamRocket 84 73 81 89 331
14th christy87 Langers on a mission 83 61 91 96 331
15th edweatherall Elbow Licking at 200MPH 77 79 78 94 328
16th dpansheth Rock 79 79 70 97 325
17th scottyj17 FC Ronaldo 82 79 79 72 312
18th jd094 Mirror, Signal, Maldonado 82 94 64 63 303
19th spwd MANSELLS MOUSTACHE, 71 95 70 63 299
20th dargonk Dargon's crew 58 68 82 70 278
Wicked is missing scores for Sainz like I am. Unless I'm missing something. There's just a blank cell. Not even a zero.
 

The Taurean

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Nothing is so common as the wish to be remarkable.
A new leader in the Fantasy League this week.

Wicked_badgers jumps from 5th to 1st and I dropped from 1st to 3rd :( but with a very slender lead of 1 point over TT_Caf in second.


Team of the week
First is Wicked_badgers with 113 points, no shock there and by 14 points, well done.
Second is Evan GP with 99 points
Third is Red Shift with 97 points

Next race is in Spain 14th May lights out at 13:00 (UK time)
Get your changes in or not.


1st saforrest Wicked_badgers 391
2nd the taurean TT_Caf 390
3rd pauldyson1uk Billy Jack Racing 386
4th eric cartman Cartman 384
5th balljy RedShift 380
6th venkman Toyoda 370
7th hp88 hp88 356
8th senorgregster Hamilton Academical 354
9th impulse Team 3 353
10th evan7788 Evan GP 351
11th thegrumpylion GrumpyLions 336
12th screech44 Redfish-Alfa 336
13th giggsy92 TeamRocket 331
14th christy87 Langers on a mission 331
15th edweatherall Elbow Licking at 200MPH 328
16th dpansheth Rock 325
17th scottyj17 FC Ronaldo 312
18th jd094 Mirror, Signal, Maldonado 303
19th spwd MANSELLS MOUSTACHE, 299
20th dargonk Dargon's crew 278
Thanks for the update. Although the site is not as smooth as one few years ago.
 

Giggsy92

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Looks like Ferrari have the pace based on FP3 but reliability's not been great all weekend. Weird that his race engineer told him to stop the car when it was still capable of doing a good time.
 

Giggsy92

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Bit annoying Alonso's missing Monaco, would probably be fighting for serious points there. Instead we get a driver who doesn't want to be there and a hugely underwhelming Vandoorne.
 

pauldyson1uk

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Bit annoying Alonso's missing Monaco, would probably be fighting for serious points there. Instead we get a driver who doesn't want to be there and a hugely underwhelming Vandoorne.
I watched an interview with Button , you get the impression he is treating it has a bit of fun, the Monaco track is tough to drive doubt it will be much fun.
 

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Vettel literally threw pole away in the Spanish Grand Prix yesterday. Hopefully he can make amends today.
 

Giggsy92

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Some clumsy stuff into turn one. Vettel comfortably pulling away already, could be another dull race.
 

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Bottas caused the Max/Kimi collision and he's the one that isn't out of the race :lol:
 

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Bottas caused the Max/Kimi collision and he's the one that isn't out of the race :lol:
I know it has, as it should go down as "racing incident" but surely as a sporting spectacle, if someone is at fault which takes two competitors out of the race whereas you continue.. that's not entirely fair.