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I really do hope he can succeed at the club.
Yep, that's the reason why I really hope that we don't sign Baines. Someone would say that it is strange for hoping to not get the best LB in EPL, but I think that Fabio's potential is much higher and he can be as good as Rafael (knowing also that Rafael is not even near his ceiling).
I really do hope he can succeed at the club.
Agreed. I thought Fabio had a decent loan spell, add to that the fact he was one of our best players against Arsenal (away) and Barcelona (Champions League final) in 2011, granted he did play as a right back. I personally think he's more talented than Rafael. He wouldn't be first team had he kept himself fit because Evra is still reliable, but he would have a better chance of displacing him. No to Baines.Yep, that's the reason why I really hope that we don't sign Baines. Someone would say that it is strange for hoping to not get the best LB in EPL, but I think that Fabio's potential is much higher and he can be as good as Rafael (knowing also that Rafael is not even near his ceiling).
This gets trotted out quite a lot. Aside from the reputations they came with Fabio has shown nothing to suggest he's the more talented and over the last 2 years Rafael has left Fabio quite a way behind him.Agreed. I thought Fabio had a decent loan spell, add to that the fact he was one of our best players against Arsenal (away) and Barcelona (Champions League final) in 2011, granted he did play as a right back. I personally think he's more talented than Rafael. He wouldn't be first team had he kept himself fit because Evra is still reliable, but he would have a better chance of displacing him. No to Baines.
I believe Fábio is more technically gifted, and that's based on what I have seen. For a start, he's a better dribbler than Rafael IMO. The reason why Rafael has left Fábio behind is because he's played more at right back due to Neville retiring, plus Brown and O'Shea left the club. Fábio, as far as I'm aware, suffered from one injury last season which kept him out for two months (?). Other than that, he played 21 games, 13 of which he started, which isn't that bad, though it should be better. I don't think there's that much of a difference between the two, honestly. Both have been capped twice for Brazil, which is a massive achievement. But I rate Fábio highly and think he deserves a chance.This gets trotted out quite a lot. Aside from the reputations they came with Fabio has shown nothing to suggest he's the more talented and over the last 2 years Rafael has left Fabio quite a way behind him.
I rate Fabio and thinks he deserves a chance. But as I said, Rafael has left Fabio behind in terms of development. Fabio has excuses of course, but that doesn't change anything.I believe Fábio is more technically gifted, and that's based on what I have seen. For a start, he's a better dribbler than Rafael IMO. The reason why Rafael has left Fábio behind is because he's played more at right back due to Neville retiring, plus Brown and O'Shea left the club. Fábio, as far as I'm aware, suffered from one injury last season which kept him out for two months (?). Other than that, he played 21 games, 13 of which he started, which isn't that bad, though it should be better. I don't think there's that much of a difference between the two, honestly. Both have been capped twice for Brazil, which is a massive achievement. But I rate Fábio highly and think he deserves a chance.
Fabio consistantly shone on the biggest stage in club football on our run to the CL final in 2011. He cemented the RB spot for his own.I rate Fabio and thinks he deserves a chance. But as I said, Rafael has left Fabio behind in terms of development. Fabio has excuses of course, but that doesn't change anything.
Rafael has developed into one of the best fullbacks in Europe. He's earned that reputation by consistently performing at a very high standard. Fabio is yet to do that, infact, he's not even really close.
Agreed but he needs to have a season like Rafael where he's constantly fit to do thatPeople seem not to give much, apart from potential, about Fabio. This kid will stun many when he starts playing regularly for us. You can mark that.
Odd. I don't think I've seen anyone say Fabio hasn't got the ability to make it at United.People seem not to give much, apart from potential, about Fabio. This kid will stun many when he starts playing regularly for us. You can mark that.
Fabio consistantly shone on the biggest stage in club football on our run to the CL final in 2011. He cemented the RB spot for his own.
Fabio as well as his brother has shown that he's got what it takes to be a regular starter for us. The difference is the side of the pitch they play. As a right footed LB playing second fiddle to probably one of the best full backs of the last decade, Rafael would surely find his chances as limited as Fabio has.
I have heard plenty say it, it isn't that controversial to be fair. Me personally, I hope he gets his chance.Odd. I don't think I've seen anyone say Fabio hasn't got the ability to make it at United.
He needed the loan for game time mainly. When he was here he had the odd game before picking up an injury, while there he did manage to have a run of games and get that experience... but then he picked up another injury. It was still a lot more beneficial for him to get that experience of regular game time.Why was he fished out on loan in the first place? Was it because his first team opportunities would have been limited with Evra there or his first team opportunities would have been limited regardless?
IMO both he and his brother could become ideal 'modern day full backs' with their pace and defensive capabilities.
True, plus he just turned 23 a few days ago and therefore will never improve any more ever again as a player. We should sell him now when we can. Actually we should sell everybody after they turn 23.Well if he can come back and prove his worth it could save a heck of a lot of money on Baines. But the fact Moyes knew he was coming back and still bid for his former player doesn't bode well.
Awesome post Shame that De Gea became good before being 23 years old and now we're stacked with him.True, plus he just turned 23 a few days ago and therefore will never improve any more ever again as a player. We should sell him now when we can. Actually we should sell everybody after thry turn 23.
Well not to some shithouse club like QPR at any rate. I've nothing against players going on loan to clubs where they'll play and improve, like Welbeck and Cleverley, but it can sometimes backfire like it did for Kiko.Assuming Evra is leaving, there's room for us to buy Baines and then use Fabio as a back up left or right back throughout the season. He would get a lot of games. I would be strongly against him going on loan again.