It is his fourth game with Heynckes - he had a hand in all the first and decisive goals in all of this matches...
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James is starting to get into his stride now.
Our last five or so league games have basically been rather poor
Sluggish tempo, players struggling to execute clean passes, to control balls etc
Makes for some dreary viewing at times
Of course, the personnel situation is not ideal. Rafinha as LB is much less than ideal.
Sluggish tempo, players struggling to execute clean passes, to control balls etc
Makes for some dreary viewing at times
Of course, the personnel situation is not ideal. Rafinha as LB is much less than ideal.
Chore to watch at the moment.
Why is he there? Alaba poor or coming back from injury?
Coming back from injury. Bernat has been injured as well.
What a sloppy match.
Why is that a penalty? He clearly hit the ball, really bad but he played it.
It's a clear penalty imo. Barely touched the ball and hit the forward with the studs on his knee.
Didn't matter anyway.
Clear penalty, he took out the Stuttgart player on the follow through on the knee. It was a miskick and the Stuttgart player could've gotten there ball had Sule not followed through.
What an end though. Bayern fans woudlve murdered James for that chip attempt at the end had the penalty gone in. Horrible pitch though probably played a role in that James chance though, looked really labored while running towards goal.
Overall Bayern far from impressive again. They probably need the winter break.
What an end though. Bayern fans woudlve murdered James for that chip attempt at the end had the penalty gone in. Horrible pitch though probably played a role in that James chance though, looked really labored while running towards goal.
Overall Bayern far from impressive again. They probably need the winter break.
I have done Ulreich wrong when I called him a problem as backup GK. He has been really, really good.
According to local media, Bayern extend Kingsley Comans contract until 2023 (old one was until 2020). Also Rafinha, who was supposed to be a candidate for a wintertime transfer out (Palmeiras Sao Paolo showed keen interest), will supposedly not only stay for the rest of the season, but is discussing terms for another 2 years in Munich.
The Rafinha bit is tz quoting a Brazilian news source though?
Wagner also official for around 13m€ + add ons.
http://www.spox.com/de/sport/fussba...agner-wechsel-nach-muenchen-wohl-perfekt.html
http://www.spox.com/de/sport/fussba...agner-wechsel-nach-muenchen-wohl-perfekt.html
Bayern seem to have recovered from Ancelotti's dreadful start.
Squad seems a lot happier with Jupp, the Bundesliga challenge is back on track, a backup striker was bought...
Squad seems a lot happier with Jupp, the Bundesliga challenge is back on track, a backup striker was bought...
He really stepped up and sometimes makes me almost forget that our best keeper is injured.
The further stages of the CL will show how much of our recovery is down to the shitness of our domestic football at the moment. Apart from PSG at home, we didn't face any heavyweight opponents so far (and that match hardly counted as a real world test).
I think some of our players are still quite a bit away from their personal best (some of them for good due to age), and so is the overall play of our team.
Challenge? Bundesliga looks like it hasn't been worse for years.
Dreadful the dreadful start was only 6 league games and 2 CL games.
But you never can tell that at this time of the year. The big opponents you always meet in the second part of the season - even the group games never say a lot as you have 6 matches with 2 opponents that usually are weaker. What I see is that after a bad start everything is somehow building onto each other and is set in place for a great second part of the season - it for sure did not look like this end of September. And some of the stones have already fallen into the right spot. Martinez is back in midfield and seems to have gotten rid of the years of struggling with injuries after his ACL and full knee damage. Müller is decisive again. We have that backup striker and some other players to provide rest for the others when needed. A good climate in the team. A Coman full of promise. 3 trustable defenders and even a goalkeeper backup.
The situation could not be much better. That not everything run smoothly is probably better than if everything would have been glorious - they know that there is still work to be done. But what do you want more than 11 points to the second team in the Bundesliga, quarter finals in the Cup, out of the group stage and a good opponent for the round of 16 in the CL, the outlook on having the injured players back for the big matches...
Bayern looked out of sorts in pre-season: they lost every match, some of them pretty badly and there were internal grumblings then and there.
Their form didn't magically change when the season started, and it carried on in the domestic and champions league. If you think Carlo got fired for a few games in the league you're sorely mistaken.
So yeah, Jupp has stabilized the ship - they were 5 points behind the leaders when he joined, now they have a 9 point lead over second place.
I agree with you that the rest of the league is so inconsistent. Most teams are poorly coached and have been playing hot potato with that second spot.
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With Carlo, the team was underperforming in a way that wasn't even funny. Now they play again as good as they are capable of. If that is good enough to annoy some of the european rivals remains to be seen.
It's incredibly frustrating looking from afar. Having experienced titles from Werder, Stuttgart, Wolfsburg and Kaiserslautern, it's pretty boring and predictable watching Bayern rack up one title after another, even when they're not having great seasons But fair play to them. They seem to have moved on to another level after Dortmund gave them hell for a couple of years.
I don't think he got fired for results. I'm saying the results weren't horrible so there wasn't really much to recover from, especially considering the "challenge" in the league.
Bayern were 3 points behind Dortmund when there were 84 points left to go. Now they have an 11 point lead.
Dortmund are still 3rd despite having only won 3 games in the 11 since Ancelotti was sacked. That's a bad sign of league strength. The only clubs left in Europe besides Bayern are Dortmund and Leipzig who are in EL because they finished 3rd in the CL. None of the EL teams qualified from their groups. Again not very good sign. Ancelotti could have stayed at the helm with the club in "turmoil" and they still would have won the league this season. Note also that Bayern has the same lead as City has in fewer games despite having a reported "dreadful" start and City is the best team in Europe. It's a worrying trajectory for German football because they've already been overtaken by Italy and are in danger of losing a CL spot to France if this is how the football continues. Focus shouldn't be on Bayern here, they are fine and will always be fine. What's happening with the rest of the clubs?
The Bundesliga just signed a new tv deal and I think that will improve their chances of getting better players in but the problem I see is that the German clubs are lacking real talent in management. Beside Bayern, none of the other clubs have good enough quality in management. Germany, Spain, and France Italy to an extent will always produce great footballers but at this time the league has poor managers.
France only has PSG and Monaco but more and likely PSG. If Dortmund gets a good manager in they will stabilize the Bundesliga placing and will be ahead of both Italy and France. Italy benefits from Juventus champions league run. Spain is really just being top due to Barca, Real, and Sevilla. If Bayern has a good CL run this season and PSG drop out to Real well that's that.
France only has PSG and Monaco but more and likely PSG. If Dortmund gets a good manager in they will stabilize the Bundesliga placing and will be ahead of both Italy and France. Italy benefits from Juventus champions league run. Spain is really just being top due to Barca, Real, and Sevilla. If Bayern has a good CL run this season and PSG drop out to Real well that's that.
11 points lead over the second place.
They also won all CL games with a nice 3:1 win against Paris.
Bayern and Barcelona are my two favorites for the CL win, Paris and City are good too.
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They got twatted 3-0 in Paris.
The 3:0 was before Jupp took over.
We were talking about the change after Carlo.
To be fair, both coaches (Carlo and Jupp) were missing key players.
CL-Final: Barca vs Bayern would be nice.
I don't see Paris going all the way to the final. City has a better chance.
We were talking about the change after Carlo.
To be fair, both coaches (Carlo and Jupp) were missing key players.
CL-Final: Barca vs Bayern would be nice.
I don't see Paris going all the way to the final. City has a better chance.
They looked to be in decadence last season, too. And then the only difference between us and them was a ref, and we annihilated the rest of the competition in CL
Truth is they were the best team in the world when they lost to Atletico in 2016, and they were the best team we played last season.
Age might be an issue with Robben and Ribery, sure, but people were saying this last season and then Robben turned us inside out at the bernabeu. They remain a juggernaut until proven otherwise, and that's in Spring. First half of the season is meaningless, their superiority over the league is such that they don't need to be great to dominate from the off.
Truth is they were the best team in the world when they lost to Atletico in 2016, and they were the best team we played last season.
Age might be an issue with Robben and Ribery, sure, but people were saying this last season and then Robben turned us inside out at the bernabeu. They remain a juggernaut until proven otherwise, and that's in Spring. First half of the season is meaningless, their superiority over the league is such that they don't need to be great to dominate from the off.
Good old Kalle was guest at [German] Sky's sunday morning football talkshow today, I didn't watch it myself because he tends to be an obnoxious fecker, but he's quoted saying: "It's been decided that we will have a German coach come 1st of July. The most ideal one would be Jupp Heynckes" („Entschieden ist, dass wir einen deutschen Trainer ab 1. Juli haben. Der idealste wäre Jupp Heynckes“). One would assume it's between Nagelsmann and Tuchel. The latter being the much more likely candidate if you believe the reports about Dortmund having tapped up Nagelsmann - if Heynckes does indeed stick to his promise of retiring again after this season.
One subpar season in Europe and we are in risk of getting overtaken by France of all leagues? We have a 15 point lead even now. Mostly because France spart from PSG can’t get jack shit done in Europe as well, just that this is normal for them. So, get a grip man. Stuff like this happens, we just had a freak season domestically which got a lot of shitty teams into Europe this season. Things will settle again.
Not long ago the difference between Germany and Italy, from a UEFA coefficient POV, was similar to the difference between Germany and France. Calling it supbar is an understatement. It's been a horrible season. You have three more teams than Austria and have less points. Germany isn't in the top 10 for the season despite the head start of 7 teams. Even Cyprus with their 4 only teams and all of them knocked out managed a better result than the German teams.
Lot of shit teams because of a freak season? 3 of the 4 CL teams are in the current top 4. Freiburg got knocked out by Domzale, 4th placed Slovenian team whilst Hoffenheim and Hertha were knocked out by Sweden and Bulgaria. Calling them "shitty teams" is calling your league shitty. Tbf to Köln at least they had a tough group. 4 wins out out 18 in the EL group stage and 7 out of 18 in the CL (5 of the Bayern) is way worse than "subpar". Maybe it doesn't worry you because you're a Bayern fan and perhaps can't really relate but you can be damn sure of it that the German FA are defitinitely worried about it.
The Kroos deal is not because Bayern and Madrid have a good business relationship. Its Madrid getting the better of Bayern, like they do every time. Also, once Real decides one of their players is not good enough, Bayern is one of the clubs they dump those outcast...Robben, James....
Kroos contract was coming to end and they had to let thim go for cheaper. The price quoted to us , as per rumours, were not that high either. Its just that Kroos is from east german and there are not many east germans in Bayern/Germany national team. had he been from west german, Bayern could have tried harder to extend his contract probably.
What?
Selling Robben and Sneijder on the cheap to Inter and Bayern to watch them play the next CL final was a fantastic piece of business by Real. Getting the better of them indeed..
Do you understand the way the system works? Starting with more clubs is an actual DISadvantage. And the halftime results hardly matter anyway. Also, the difference between Italy and Germany was never really bigger than 5-8 points. The high point was reached in 12/13 with 14, and you know what happened this season. At the moment, it’s just exceptionally high results falling out of the ranking for us, so what is happening was to be expected. What you say in that regard is just bullshit.
We had seasons like this before. Others had as well. Only looking at one season is utterly pointless.
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What the heck is this trainwreck. Drunk?
Bayern also failed to make Ballack a satisfying contract offer. I think he might be on to something here.
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Bayern should stop buying the best players from their competitors, it makes them weaker on the long term because the Bundesliga level will drop. They are like the PSG from Germany. I know it must be tempting and easy to buy the best players in the league, but when you win everything with ease in the league, the gap with CL becomes bigger and besides that, I think motivation will become a problem.
For example, didn't Celtic get significantly weaker when Rangers got relegated because of their financial problems?
For example, didn't Celtic get significantly weaker when Rangers got relegated because of their financial problems?
HOw many east germans are there in current Germany national team? I doubt anybody except for Kroos. Historically, Germany national team do not have many east germans and same goes for Bayern. Had Kroos been west german, Bayern would have pushed for contract extension.
Just name me few east german players from Bayern, and you will struggle to get more than handful of names.
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It did not turn out to be a good business by Real considering Robben's and Sneijder's contribution to their respective teams. BUt that does not cover the fact that Real deemed them surplus and was looking to dump them and dumped them to Bayern.