Federico Macheda Loan watch

[mo0]

Will Keane > Macheda

 

[CentreForward]

Never really rated him. Got lucky with that goal against Vila.

 

[EDogen]

Will Keane > Macheda

Easily!

 

[Snow]

King is another striker we have that has been doing much better than him lately. Macheda doesn't stand a chance here, definitely not in the short term.

Has King been doing much better? Do you base that on him getting game time for Norway? People who have been following the reserves all say, as far as I'm concerned, that he's been doing well.

 

[Slevs]

Fed-up Macheda wants to quit Old Trafford when transfer window re-opens

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Federico Macheda will look to quit Manchester United in the New Year with the striker increasingly unsettled with his lack of first-team opportunities.
The Italy Under 21 international finds himself behind Robin van Persie, Wayne Rooney, Danny Welbeck and Javier Hernandez in the pecking order at Old Trafford.

He spent the end of last season on loan at QPR but managed only six appearances for Mark Hughes' side, while he had a spell in his homeland with Sampdoria in 2011.

Macheda's last outing for United came on Boxing Day last year as a substitute in the 5-0 Barclays Premier League win over Wigan.
But having spent this term stuck in the reserves, the 21-year-old's agent Giovanni Bia has revealed he wants to leave in January when the transfer window re-opens.

'How can he be decisive for the team if he never plays?' Bia told ItaSportPress.
'Manchester United have some phenomenal players in attack, so it is truly difficult for Federico to find space. It’s not true what they write in the English papers that he’s going through a bad spell.

'He wants to play and if he cannot do so by January then we’ll try to find an alternative solution. I will talk to Sir Alex Ferguson over the next few days.
'Federico was requested by German and Spanish teams over the summer, but the English club preferred to keep hold of him.

'I hope they understand the situation and let him leave in January, because it makes no sense to keep a 21-year-old on the bench.'
Macheda was tipped to have a bright future under Sir Alex Ferguson at United when he spectacularly burst on the scene in April 2009, coming off the bench on his debut to seal an important winner against Aston Villa.

If he feels he needs to play elsewhere, let him go. His agent makes a reasonable point in the sense that he isn't going to get better playing in the reserves. He had 4 strikers in front of him (who are better than him). He isn't going to break into the team ahead of those 4 players. His loan spells haven't worked either, he is at the level of being too good for the reserves but not good enough for the first team. I think the best case scenario for everyone involved would be to let him leave, no hard feelings.

 

[Baxter]

Never really rated him. Got lucky with that goal against Vila.

I'd say he was almost unlucky with that goal. Put a heap of expectation on him, despite being 17 and not ready to be in the first team.

 

[Dargonk]

I'd say he was almost unlucky with that goal. Put a heap of expectation on him, despite being 17 and not ready to be in the first team.

Yep the goals really were a double edge sword for him. Heaped expectations on him and he was never going to live up to them. I'm sure he will turn out a decent footballer, but even still I and I'm sure others will feel disappointed due to those few moments of brilliance and excitement that hyped him up and him then not living up to that hype.

 

[Adam-Utd]

We should send him out to Holland for a season, he could score a boatload of goals out there, regain his confidence and gain some experience of a decent level league.

The last 2 years have been a failure for him, he needs to get out of reserve level as its too easy for him.

John Guidetti city's young striker has done very well over there, we know it isnt the hardest league for strikers but if you are good enough it will show.

 

[gooDevil]

He can end up being a good premier league striker, but that may be a few years away still. I think he needs to face better defenders so he can learn how to beat them, send him to the Championship.

While his scoring rate is good for the U21 team, I had hoped he would be able to impose himself more against defenders of that level. But maybe I'm being harsh.

 

[CentreForward]

I'd say he was almost unlucky with that goal. Put a heap of expectation on him, despite being 17 and not ready to be in the first team.

Good point.

 

[Randall Flagg]

I'd say he was almost unlucky with that goal. Put a heap of expectation on him, despite being 17 and not ready to be in the first team.

Indeed, if ever a goal hindered a career it was that.

Also he got that Flukey goal against Sunderland a week later.

I'm sure we all thought he was going to be a star.

It's been clear for some time now though, he has no future with us. He needs to kick start his career, elsewhere.

 

[Paul Scholes]

Is he going on loan?

 

[Nate Dogg]

Is he going on loan?

Hope so, we've sent a few out on loan including Bebe & Henriquez but he is in desperate need of games at a decent level.

 

[ciderman9000000]

Somebody needs to put this guy out of his misery. It's for the best.

 

[kps88]

I can only assume there hasn't been much demand for him from teams capable of giving him regular football.

 

[Sandikan]

How many loan spells are we going to send him on before we finally just sell him on?!

THAT goal v Villa was almost 4 years ago now!

He has VP, Rooney, and a young Hernandez and Welbeck in front of him.

It's pretty much a hopeless scenario isn't it. There's going to be young strikers bubbling behind him too.

 

[Maciej]

Is he going on loan?

No, he's going to be sold.

 

[Sparky_Hughes]

Come out behind the barn Kiko, and say bye bye.

 

[AngeloHenriquez]

No, he's going to be sold.

Any sources? Not that I am doubting, just haven't heard that. Strange noone wants to take him as cover, IMO he is a good goal scorer..

 

[dr.twinny]

Somebody needs to put this guy out of his misery. It's for the best.

This. Needs to move asap. Even on loan with a view to a permanent deal would be helpful at this stage.

 

[Heardy]

He's better than he is given credit for, but will always struggle to get a squad position in the United side.

Villa would do well to put in a bid for him.

 

[Minkaro]

After his last couple of loan spells I could see clubs being hesitant to want to buy him. Best I think we can hope for is a six month loan spell now with the option to buy him at the end of the season.

 

[steeeb]

He's a good player that has been unlucky with injuries and loan spells. He'll never make it here though, but others probably won't take a punt on him for the amount we feel he's probably worth.

Hopefully as others have pointed out, a loan move with an option to buy might be a good solution.

 

[Brophs]

I don't think he'a capable of being a consistent PL player at the moment. He needs lots of games to develop, which he hasn't had to date. A good Championship club who could get promoted would be ideal for him.

 

[Antisocial]

Watching Sky Sports News earlier, they were linking Macheda with a loan move to Germany with an option to buy. I think it was Stuttgart they mentioned.

Edit: Some info in the second part of this article:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/juan-fernando-quintero-is-set-to-snub-1539371?

 

[Jaap]

Could be possible as Stuttgart are looking at a striker at the moment.

 

[AngeloHenriquez]

Would have liked him to make it here, not bad in the reserves, decent goal/game return, just looks out of his depth at this level as hasn't had the chances/ time he needed, very unfortunate.

 

[Talking Vulture]

If Stuttgart are looking for a striker, why has Macheda been linked?

 

[Rooney in Paris]

Would have liked him to make it here, not bad in the reserves, decent goal/game return, just looks out of his depth at this level as hasn't had the chances/ time he needed, very unfortunate.

To be fair, I don't think he's ever had the talent needed or will ever have it. He could do well at other clubs, but he's just not up to the standards we might have hoped after his incredible debut for us.

 

[Orton]

Well look what a move to Germany done for Mame Diouf. He has become one of the best scorers in the league since his move to Hannover.

 

[AngeloHenriquez]

To be fair, I don't think he's ever had the talent needed or will ever have it. He could do well at other clubs, but he's just not up to the standards we might have hoped after his incredible debut for us.

You think that's fair? that's not fair the slightest, he has shown talent, SAF would have got rid after a year if that was the case, you just have to say enough is enough, the boy has been riddled with injuries and horribly unlucky at certain loan spells and club choices. There is still a chance he could develop into a top player, but the longer he leaves it the less likely, but to say he hasn't ever had the talent, nor will he ever, is anything but fair, stupid comment.

 

[Sassy Colin]

SAF thought he was the real deal, said as much a few years ago.

Can't say I ever saw it but if SAF says it was there that's enough for me. Even so, he's never going to make it at United now.

I made this thread some time ago

https://www.redcafe.net/f6/diouf-vs-macheda-340218/

I thought Diouf was better & I have yet to see anything to change my mind.

 

[blitz133w]

His finishing was the only good thing about him. But his positioning and discipline weren't so good. I think SAF said he was the best finisher in the club, before hernandez came. He could only score during pre season friendlies. Really wanted him to succeed here. Thought he could make it as a third striker. That was a peach of a goal specially for a 17 yr old. He had time on his side then but he didn't/couldn't make the best of it. Sometimes we do take our time to sell for that extra million. He'll definitely be sold.

 

[Cevno]

His finishing was the only good thing about him. But his positioning and discipline weren't so good. I think SAF said he was the best finisher in the club, before hernandez came. He could only score during pre season friendlies. Really wanted him to succeed here. Thought he could make it as a third striker. That was a peach of a goal specially for a 17 yr old. He had time on his side then but he didn't/couldn't make the best of it. Sometimes we do take our time to sell for that extra million. He'll definitely be sold.

Hernandez isn't a great finisher. He is good at getting at positions where he gets chances a bit like Ruud.

 

[lunchforthesky]

Why the feck would Stuttgart want Macheda?

I think he probably does have talent, how much it's hard to tell but he's a bit of a big time Charlie and thought he'd made it long before he had and stopped putting into the necessary work to push on.

 

[Castia]

Good luck to him he's got potential and if he can manager 20+ games a season at a decent level then who knows he could become a good player. Better for all parties if he found another club though he's never going to get a chance here with our current strike force.

 

[Eyepopper]

He's only 21 ffs, none of us can make any significant comment on him 1 because he has plenty of time on his side and 2 because no ones really seen that much of him.

Maybe he wont make it and be shipped on but so far the people that see him in training every day seem to think its worth having him here.

Not sure how anyone here could know better than that.

 

[jdmufc]

He's only 21 ffs, none of us can make any significant comment on him 1 because he has plenty of time on his side and 2 because no ones really seen that much of him.

Maybe he wont make it and be shipped on but so far the people that see him in training every day seem to think its worth having him here.

Not sure how anyone here could know better than that.

whilst this may be true to some extent, the "he's only 21, he has time on his side" line isn't really true (imo) as he should be pushing for a starting place at that age, that's not say he doesn't have a bright future, I just don't see him having a top tier career.

 

[Cevno]

whilst this may be true to some extent, the "he's only 21, he has time on his side" line isn't really true (imo) as he should be pushing for a starting place at that age, that's not say he doesn't have a bright future, I just don't see him having a top tier career.

Top tier as in ?

 

[Shark]

Hernandez isn't a great finisher. He is good at getting at positions where he gets chances a bit like Ruud.

Ruud was a fantastic finisher.

Hernandez gets himself into good positions, but he's still a great finisher. His placement at times is top notch, especially in one vs one situations with keepers. Just ask Petr Cech.