I'm still standing by my prediction!
France's Presidential elections April 2022
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it's basically a question of how many people will turn out to vote on Sunday. Should be okay for Macron, I think.
Melenchon just said that same "Do not vote for Le Pen" and he repeated it 3 times.
Yes. I am optimistic now. You knew better!!
a bit of an ambiguous message in my opinion - compared to Jadot, Pecresse and Hidalgo.
Agree. He is a real far-left candidate. He considers Macron to be an "evil neo-liberal" and he is not going to support him outright. Especially with legislative elections coming in June.
Is MLP's party a one person party or will they be ok once she's gone?
Bardella who is the acting interim President of her party is an MEP is even more dislikeable and he's only 26.
He did say not one person should vote for Le Pen though
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They could but I don't see it. If she gets all MLP, Zemmour and Dupont-Aignan votes from the first round she still gets 34% as has been the total for the far right all the way through. Big gap to fill to get to 51%. Looking forward to the face to face. Unless Macron has a meltdown he'll expose her weaknesses, ie being dumb as hell.
Ps Mélenchon did so well because he plucked the age of 60 as the retirement age from his backside just before the election.
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i.e. Mélenchon possesses the gifts of sight and hearing.
There is no way Le Pen can actually win is there? Macron would get all the non right wing loony votes, especially after he exposes her for her stupidity
I get that her even getting 1% is bad in itself but the whole hysteria that she could win makes me think I am missing something
I get that her even getting 1% is bad in itself but the whole hysteria that she could win makes me think I am missing something
The gap between Le Pen and Mélenchon is narrowing - it would be funny if Le Pen actually came third even if it is highly unlikely
So hoping for this. Funny af if it happens.
Evil neo liberal beats evil neo Nazi in top trumps.
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Barely by the looks of it.
Here is how Paris region and Paris City voted. The traditional Tory party candidate Pecresse is the president of the region, and the traditional Soc-dem party candidate Hidalgo is the mayor of Paris city. Both were completely humiliated on home turf. Le Pen gets 5% in the city and 13% regionwide. Macron and Melenchon dominate all major cities.
In Paris, Hidalgo got less than 10% of her result in the mayoral elections (a year and a half ago).
In Paris, Hidalgo got less than 10% of her result in the mayoral elections (a year and a half ago).
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This is interesting. Actually, if young people voted massively we would be living in a Marxist world.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-04...n-le-pen-lead-polls-runoff-april-24/100981258
Wow a leftist party that doesn't shit the bed and help the far right into power?? Can we export this across the west please?
Good to see you are posting again. And I am sure you are right, I mean correct.
Obviously it shouldn't even be possible for Le Pen to win given her closeness to Putin. But is it possible? I understand people not wanting Macron or whatever, but surely you simply cannot let Le Pen win in these times?
Have you?
Learnt from your mistake that is. If election comes tomorrow i doubt bojo wouldnt get 40% at least
Took a break for about six months. Good to see you're still here.
There are gullible fools in France as well but hopefully not as many as in the UK.
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Pécresse is in deep financial trouble. Personal debt of €5million. If you get under 5% , your campaign expenses are not reimbursed. Appealing for donations - Wondering whether there are any Caftards willing to donate to a French Tory.
Yes. Still here and amazingly I have avoided the dreaded covid viruses.
I am interested in how the media in general in France are either reporting or trying to influence the public. And how the cost of living situation across the whole of France is likely to affect the outcome.
Tell them to get in touch with Rushi Sunak wife and family.
We've avoided it too so far. The press in France is not the same as the UK, some may be bias but it's not the same. Most of the nutter conspiracy theories will be on social media and whether they buy into that. The press and TV do give fair coverage of everyone.
Cost of living is a concern although France have done really well compared to a lot of countries - even if some think not. Of course in a political campaign the politicians make all sorts of claims which are clearly not sustainable
Not long before the election Macron laid out the path to increased retirement age. Going up to 65 for most over the next decade or so.
This didn't help his campaign. Of course all the others were asked what age they would set retirement; Most said around 62 or 63. Mélenchon says 60 and suddenly his popularity increases; how he finances that is in Corbyn territory.
Should send some French voters to the UK or Denmark and so they can see what their retirement age is.
Why would he finance it? 99.9% of his promises are literally empty. We are talking about someone who whenever he is asked to explain anything, points to the sixth republic and that he doesn't intend to actually lead the country or do anything. It's one of the biggest sham in politics history.
They're all the same, Le Pen, Mélenchon, Johnson, they're all protestors with big mouths. Incapable of having a plan, incapable of running a country; Just say what they think the public want to hear. Johnson is a classic example; his 'plan' today won't be the same as tomorrow.
Aren't they multi billionaires, they wouldn't even pick up calls from people who can't pay 5 million.
No. They would have 'people' to do that I guess.
So which role in Dr Strangelove are you today. Jack Ripper?
Absolutely not. Nearly 1 in 5 people living in absolute poverty and this Government will likely get re-elected.
I always play the role of "precious bodily fluids".
You don't drink the water then. Keep away from fluoride.
The inaccurate polls stuffed Melonchon, firstly because with him supposedly 6%~ behind Le Pen, little motivation for young people who are always hard to turn out, to go out and vote as such a big gap, why bother. Secondly, had he been polling very close to Le Pen, there was a much better chance of the Communists or other socialists either standing down completely or tactically voting for him. He only needed half the votes that went to the Communists and that would have been enough to get him in the run off! Tiny margin of 1% finally.
There are lots of ifs and buts. Most of the left candidates didn't want an alliance between them. If Zemmour hadn't presented himself Le Pen would have been further ahead of Mélenchon. Not that long ago Mélenchon was fifth in the polls but with Zemmour and Pécresse having disastrous campaigns Mélenchon rose up and then announced 'retirement at 60' to boost himself at the end. Not forgetting Hidalgo (Labour) -if she'd have attracted any bigger share of the vote, Mélenchon would have been nowhere near Macron and LePen