Fred | no longer Fred the Red but now a Turkish delight
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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And he’s crap with his football words. A sign of what’s been wrong with this club for years.
He shows passion on the pitch and has a wonderful smile when things went well. He doesn't need to speak English for us to understand that.
That’s cute.
I gravitate towards players that are high quality and good enough to play for Manchester United and have us competitive every week.
Passion and a smile, while giving the ball away?
Seriously low standards.
The entire Fulham links seem to come from Fred having a chat with Silva after the game.
Maybe they were both just walking in the same direction to the bus.
Maybe they were both just walking in the same direction to the bus.
Harsh crowds in Manchester.
Fred is the guy coming to help you load the lorry when you move out. Brought his friend Wout. Half the people who promised to be there will later argue they had an emergency this morning. They're a bit over the place in terms of organisation but can't fault the lads, they did get that couch through the stairs. Eventually.
Anyhow, like a player who always puts his shift in. And if he's a bit of a donkey... Well not his fault. He's what you have on the pitch right now. Glad if we get an upgrade, but cheers to all those that did their best with the shirt on.
Fred is the guy coming to help you load the lorry when you move out. Brought his friend Wout. Half the people who promised to be there will later argue they had an emergency this morning. They're a bit over the place in terms of organisation but can't fault the lads, they did get that couch through the stairs. Eventually.
Anyhow, like a player who always puts his shift in. And if he's a bit of a donkey... Well not his fault. He's what you have on the pitch right now. Glad if we get an upgrade, but cheers to all those that did their best with the shirt on.
Great deal for Fenerbahce tbh. Fred was mostly good for us, but clear ETH didn't fancy him.
If you divide the first team (twelve players) into two teams, Fred performed in the better 6 performers of this theoretical team in each of the past 3 seasons at least. So if you call his time here as shite, you have to call half the team as shite. That's if you actually stop and see it without bias
Good luck Fred. Good Fred was quality, bad Fred was absolutely shocking. 
That's cute for you.
Good shout.
Apart from against Liverpool, when, like some kind of Uruguayan werewolf transforming at the sight of the liver bird, he became a man possessed.
Stick that response in the bin, with Fred.
Wish him the best always love player who give it their all no matter the ability.
Not everyone is a miserable sod though.
Done.
Wish him the best of luck. He was solid at times but the problem was even he was bad he was really, really bad. Anyway we need to ship him and other players to go forward.
Oh dear.
That's what I say when I watch Fred trying to play football.
Occasionally good, sometimes decent, but mostly rubbish. A pretty forgettable player all in all. Good luck to him
At least this post wasn’t xenophobic.
Saying he can’t speak good English is just a fact?
Righto.
15m Euros for a Brazilian international with 32 appearances, 21 in the last two years, is not great business. Worth far more than that.
Sad to see him go, but If we get Amrabat it will be an upgrade and our midfield will be better for it. Fred just couldn't nail down that consistency that you need to survive in a top quality midfield, but he definitely has the talent to make it work somewhere like Turkey if the stars align.
Why where there no other offers then?
What's the tipping point in talent before you will ignore some broken English?
If you can’t understand why fans become ingratiated with some players who may not be top quality but have other redeeming features then you’re missing out on a wonderful part of football.
Not everything is “beep beep emotions deleted. All players must be incredible”
Ten Hag kept him nicely on the boil for a year until he could get him out the door. He’s absolutely doing it with other current members of the squad. I said before in 18 months nobody would be left from the Rangnick season.
Might be a bit longer, but it will be Ten Hag’s side constructed soon enough.
Might be a bit longer, but it will be Ten Hag’s side constructed soon enough.
If watching £50m Fred give the ball away is a wonderful part of football, you can keep it for yourself.
A midfield for me is about controlling a game, that’s what I enjoy, not running around aimlessly like a headless chicken. Fred was literally the opposite of control.
It’s about time our club got rid of the likes of him and pushed forward.
The funnier thing is thinking you can't connect with another human unless they speak the same language as you.
Similar sentiment on my end, except I don't drink anymore.
Yeah, very weird.
We need Geordie Arabia FC to make good on their interest there. I don’t think the hammers will come back - unless they lose Paqueta.
But what if someone says something negative about the team I support on Twitter and other people find it funny? You've given no thought as to how embarrassing that might be for me.
I liked him but also recognise he isn't the type of player we need.
Do you really think people like him because he gave the ball away? Or are you just ignoring what others are saying?
Yes he had lots bad games. He also had many good games. He also could be terrible and brilliant in the same 20 seconds. Whilst he may not have been good enough in the end, it was that unsung hero style that endeared him to fans. The chaotic nature of him was very funny at times and it made it fun to watch. Not everything is about your players playing the perfect game. The wonderful part of football I was talking about was finding joy in the little things. It’s the right thing for him to go but there’s nothing wrong in appreciating him. He’s a lovely bloke who tried his best for club and the fact that he doesn’t speak English is irrelevant.
I’m sorry you don’t see players that way but a lot of people do.
Not debating in good faith - ignoring posters points
Not reading that sorry Byeee Fred. Cheers
Byeee Fred. CheersBefore I like a player, I make sure that they have a degree in English.
Quality control
Getting warning points because I have an opinion on a player that I don’t like and I’m glad to see the back off. Cool.
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