Discussion in 'Player Performances Forum' started by devilish, Jul 8, 2009.
he is unstoppable in my master league 2012 season
I thought he looked pretty exciting, obviously there are areas of his game that need to be worked on but he's clearly talented.
Ive thought he has looked very promising in his first team appearanes. Im not sure what people are expecting from a teenager from France to do in his first season in the EPL for one of the biggest clubs in the world - but to label him as a **** or anything akin to that is ridiculous.
I would rather we invest in some quality players rather than constant youth transfers though I must admit. And after the Ljajic (and possibly Tosic) affair you cant help but be a bit sceptical of our scouts of late. Still, he should be given a chance.
I cant imagine Giggs playing on the wing next season, so that means:
Nani, Valencia, Park, Tosic, Obertan, Welbeck are our potential wingers. If Nani can really prove himself to be able to consistently perform, we are in pretty good shape based on that. I cant imagine us buying a new winger without letting one of those ones go though - Tosic is the main suspect there, if we got rid of him and got Joe Cole in on a free then we would have a good array of players there - especially considering Cole and Park can play in the middle, and Welbeck up front.
I guess Fergie must see more in him than Tosic who couldn't even get a chance.
So is this a case of the caf writing off a player who's still a kid?
Very exciting young player who has been battling with injuries of late and was playing in the french league and now has to play here under immense scrutiny. The transition isnt easy especially for players who are still developing.
Personally I think he has a lot of talent and what with the miniscule sporadic minutes he has had with the first team, it shouldnt be enough to banish him already.
Its a bit puzzling though, people on here moan all the time about the need for flamboyant players and now that we have this prospect who has a decent chance of succeeding here, no one is ready to be patient. If anything he looks a level above the reserves, so he hopefully shouldnt need much time anyway.
He's got a great potential but he was unfortunately injured at the start of the season and that is to never be underestimated when a new player arrives in a new country (and club).
He will improve and impress, I'm sure of that but the real question is if he'll be given time to flourish.There are not many kids who could come in a club and perform instantly, they're one of the rarest thing in football
I am fully in favour of sending him on loan next season preferably to a PL club.. But for some fecking reason we rarely have any player out on loan to PL clubs..
By us you mean pretty much every top team in this league? Wilshire's been the only useful loan I can think of, Di Santo and Senderos haven't exactly been huge successes.
It's not like we're ignoring something that's a guaranteed success.
He has potential, but he's very, very raw.
He needs a lot of games, which is why I wouldn't mind seeing him do a year on loan in the PL.
I don't know the success rate or lack of but I am just a fan of it.. I think its more of a challenge than the championship obviously I guess off late we don't have many players that are ready to challenge at that level.. I thought Tosic would do well at a PL club, Welbeck could have gone to one too.. Lets see perhaps next season we could see a few more players with a chance to go on loan to PL clubs..
I think De Laet and Cleverly have enough about them to do it for a lower level Premier League team but the rest still have a lot of development to go so they're still better off here for now I think, and then it's about finding a team that plays football which is only really Wigan or Bolton.
A pre season will do wonders to his performance levels and confidence. Just you wait.
I think Welbeck will be in line for a loan surely.. Considering how well he did on his spell with Ferguson Jr.. Surely a PL club will want him..
and that shocks you why?
I like Obertan, I think with conditioning and bulking up he will be a dangerous player. However I think if Nani progresses along the same path he has been this season then Obertan will have his work cut out getting many games
Fantastic goal from Obertan in the reserve match against Liverpool. Hopefully we'll get a vid of it later then everyone can appreciate it.
Was a tremendous goal no doubt
yeah but with Giggs getting on and Park playing more in in the centre of the Park I believe Obertan will get his chance
Really good goal.
Looked good today whenever i saw the game. Good bit of skills. Maybe we SHOULD try him in the hole behind berbatov or ahead of him.
MOTM tonight, he was brilliant. Goal worthy of winning any game too.
Maybe we should try him instead of Berbatov?? At least we know he will run his socks off.
anyone got a video of the goal?
There will be highlights in the reserve forum soon enough mate, always is.
I saw a little bit of the match, but his work-rate was pretty good also, he was quickly closing down the players, tracking back, doing all those things which he wasn't doing for the first team. Good thing that he's progressing well
How did he look stamina wise ?
He was full of running all night, closing the ball down and getting stuck in as well. He seems about ready for the first team now and see how he gets on.
Fine. Chased hard throughout the game and was still closing down his man at the end.
Did a bit of defensive work too, when Liverpool had corners.
cracking goal, tons of power and uses the defender as a screen when collecting the ball on the left corner of the 18 yard box and moves centrally before unleashing the bomb.
haven't seen a goal like that since Nani's early goals in 07-08.
His nose is enormous.
What an absolute cracker, right out of the top drawer.
I'd like to see how good this kid will be after a proper pre-season with us.
Sensational.. always said once this kid learns how to kick a ball, hes got a big chance of being a part of the first team.
How is his crossing coming along?
A weird time for a bump but watching the Germans the other day and in particular the way Thomas Muller went about his business just motivated me to renew my call for Obertan to just find time and watch a few clips of the lad in action. Ober has the tools to be better than Muller but for the time being he could benefit from watching the "allegedly" 21 year old(feck me he plays like a 28 year old vast experienced pro).
I think I am slowly becoming a Thomas Muller fanboi.
Agree, Muller certainly looked good at times.
Obertan has the potential to become a VERY good player, he still of course lacks confidence and his injury certainly didn't help him progress.
A preseason and hopefully a good run of substitutes should do him good and of course the Carling cup games.
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