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Or sat on him.Also couldn't have the dragon have just chewed up the NK after failing to burn him?
He did have that ice spear thingy, which killed the other dragon tbf.
Or sat on him.Also couldn't have the dragon have just chewed up the NK after failing to burn him?
First 4 seasons were right up there and I'm a huge BB fan.It's not. I mean I haven't even seen Sopranos and The Wire but as good as it is, GOT is a few notches below Breaking Bad.
Not really. They are inexplicably talented characters who are great at pretty much everything without having 'earned' the greatness, and liked and helped by everyone they meet immediately with almost no motivation. However, they can have flaws but they are usually minor ones that can be seen as likeable, positive or relatable- like niaivity or kind heartedness. The male equivalent is called Gary Stu.A perfect character with no flaws.
Yeah I don’t know how so many have missed that. It was classic heroic Jon. He knew all hope was lost and he had to do something so he faced off with the dragon in the hope that he could get one clear, lucky shot at it. How many times have we seen that in films? Dragon draws back to release fire, gets one in the eye.Or sat on him.
He did have that ice spear thingy, which killed the other dragon tbf.
I honestly think they just wanted to get it out of the way so that they can end the show focusing on what’s important... the Game of Thrones.From a story perspective that was really underwhelming. After being built up as this final threat to humankind and waiting all this time for them to break through the wall, it's all over in one battle. It just leaves you with a sense that nobody ever really knew what to do with that storyline.
It's cool how Arya uses the dagger in the very same spot that created the NK, didn't pick up on that.The inside of the episode with DnD on Youtube explains a lot of the thinking of how things played out and specifically why Arya was the one to kill the Knight King.
I can't believe people are having massive debates in here about the legitimacy of the battle tactics
Also saves Bran with the same dagger that nearly killed him back in season one.It's cool how Arya uses the dagger in the very same spot that created the NK, didn't pick up on that.
Who’d have thought the caf was full of military tacticians and battle commanders
I wouldn't want it any other way tbf. It's brilliantly entertaining!
It's not even that it was dark - but the first half of the episode had so many rapid-fire cuts (it was like Michael Bay had taken over directing or something.) that that, plus the darkness, made it incredibly difficult to tell what was happening.That episode WAS dark. Deliberately so, and I get why so I didn't really have an issue with it.
But the couple of people on here claiming it wasn't, yeah our tvs aren't the problem, yours are set up wrong. Still in showroom settings or something?
I've also seen people say on the internet that it's disappointing how unrealistic it is because Battle of the Bastards was so realistic. Err, what? BotB was just as ridiculous and full of plot armor, hollywood cliches!Who’d have thought the caf was full of military tacticians and battle commanders
Glad Ghost is alive. Also there not much of forces left, with what Dany means to win, just dragons? In trailer there are boats with Targaryan coat of arms, what are those?
Think these points need special attention as they seem to be a big sticking point for a lot.1. The dragons would be much more vulnerable if everyone else was inside the castle because they would have have to hover (which was bad) or keep away. Then the Night King could just sit back and let the dead win in a battle of attrition as they mentioned in previous episode.
2. Also already explained several reasons but even beyond that its pretty silly to expect a horse riding culture of honor to fight on the walls. (In the Behind the Scenes its already explained that the Dothraki just attack because thats what they know and Daeny can't stand to see them die which messes up the plan - again could have been explained better.
3. Plot armor. I already said some scenes should have been shot different. Jon's ice blast was obviously one of them. Yes the blast that took down the Wall could be stopped by a stupid rock pile. That shot was indeed awful, agreed on that.
4. Its not Drogon and Daenerys I would be worried but Rhaegal and inexperienced dragon riding Jon Snowgaryen. I wouldn't trust Jon to evade an ice javelin.
5. The Night King brings the Night. Literally. There is no "attack during the day" option mate
He looks like Putin doesn't he. Controversial.Still think the former N.K looks more menacing
All the important bits of violence were lingered on though.It's not even that it was dark - but the first half of the episode had so many rapid-fire cuts (it was like Michael Bay had taken over directing or something.) that that, plus the darkness, made it incredibly difficult to tell what was happening.
Unless i'm misremembering, GoT has never been a show for really quick cuts has it? It usually lingers on violence more then anything.
Oh yes, could be.Daario?
You need to watch that first 20 mins again, there was 10s of thousands of eachGreat visuals, plot was hanging on by a thread though. Arya killing the nk was fine, its grown on me a bit as it was nicely foreshadowed and fits with the arc. it was pretty well handled all things considered, i was just completely surprised thats the way they were taking the plot.
My only major gripe was the very beginning of the battle, they had loads of trebuchets and fired them once then ran away, wasted the Dothraki
immediately, although it was for cinematic effect which was a cool scene. however theres a massive continuity error/scale problem in that Dany brought 100,000 troops to westeros, they didnt lose many unsullied taking carstelly rock, and lost even less dothraki killing the lannister army at highgarden. they must have had about 1000 dothraki at the battle? and maybe 2/3 thousand unsullied? allowing for casualties and whatever you want, they are missing like 40/50/60.000 troops that just disappeared from the show.
Would you put your dragons head that close to the NK with an Ice Spear after he's already killed one dragon using it in the past? No thanksAlso couldn't have the dragon have just chewed up the NK after failing to burn him?
Hmmm not really. There's been plenty of attacking during the day through the whole series. Besides nobody is complaining that the attack was at night, just that they couldn't see wtf was going on which is kind of a prerequisite for television.Think these points need special attention as they seem to be a big sticking point for a lot.
I don't think it was the same spot, just under a gods tree.It's cool how Arya uses the dagger in the very same spot that created the NK, didn't pick up on that.
They are. They are saying that from tactical standpoint they should wait for morning before attacking. The Night King literally brings the night with him. That wasn't just sudden and expected adverse weather conditions.Hmmm not really. There's been plenty of attacking during the day through the whole series. Besides nobody is complaining that the attack was at night, just that they couldn't see wtf was going on which is kind of a prerequisite for television.
Does he bring the night or the fog/cold wind ?They are. They are saying that from tactical standpoint they should wait for morning before attacking. The Night King literally brings the night with him. That wasn't just sudden and expected adverse weather conditions.
He didn't at Hardhome?They are. They are saying that from tactical standpoint they should wait for morning before attacking. The Night King literally brings the night with him. That wasn't just sudden and expected adverse weather conditions.
But he does on the Long Night.He didn't at Hardhome?
A little from column A a little from column B.The whole "Azhor
Does he bring the night or the fog/cold wind ?
Which tropes? The characters saying goodbye to each other previously and not dying right after it, or the ones who made plans for retirement and didn't die right after it? Or the main enemy of the series being killed way before the climax leaving the final three episodes in uncertainty? Or how about the prodigal saviour rushing towards the big bad and not even having a fight with them? Or maybe even the arrogance of the antagonist being his demise at the hands of a small girl instead of being slain in armed combat? Or was it the two biggest main characters outside of the main family and two leads of the show going out fighting once their arcs were complete?Game of Tropes.
For shame. It used to be so good.
This week she's a small girl, last week she's a full adult lady... she really is Melisandre's airWhich tropes? The characters saying goodbye to each other previously and not dying right after it, or the ones who made plans for retirement and didn't die right after it? Or the main enemy of the series being killed way before the climax leaving the final three episodes in uncertainty? Or how about the prodigal saviour rushing towards the big bad and not even having a fight with them? Or maybe even the arrogance of the antagonist being his demise at the hands of a small girl instead of being slain in armed combat? Or was it the two biggest main characters outside of the main family and two leads of the show going out fighting once their arcs were complete?
I'm kidding of course, the real trope they used was not killing a bunch of named characters purely to shock the audience. Are people really forgetting that this is still a fantasy TV show? Whether George does it in the books or not is irrelevant because you or I have got more chance of finishing them than he does at this point.
To nobody's surprise, Battle of the Bastards, Hardhome, and now this one are my least favorite GoT episodes. In all of those they put visuals ahead of story and logic and put the plot armor on everyone who is someone. Oh, I forgot that beyond the wall battle on the ice lake. Also top 4 of the worst.I've also seen people say on the internet that it's disappointing how unrealistic it is because Battle of the Bastards was so realistic. Err, what? BotB was just as ridiculous and full of plot armor, hollywood cliches!
A girl is no one.This week she's a small girl, last week she's a full adult lady... she really is Melisandre's air
How do we knowGlad Ghost is alive. Also there not much of forces left, with what Dany means to win, just dragons? In trailer there are boats with Targaryan coat of arms, what are those?
How do we knowghost is alive?
How do we knowghost is alive?
Jon knows nothing, he probably didn't know Ghost was there.there a glimpse of him in the trailer. Also how stupid was to send him with Dothraki, it seems Jon doesn't value him much.
there a glimpse of him in the trailer. Also how stupid was to send him with Dothraki, it seems Jon doesn't value him much.
One of the worst choices of the show; Ghost should be as close and important to Jon as the dragons are to Dany.Jon knows nothing, he probably didn't know Ghost was there.