Salt Bailly
Auburn, not Ginger.
Never trust a man with two first names.
You are. People will be worse off and then the increasingly extreme media will explain the myriad reasons to why they’re worse off, which will probably include lefties, immigrants and the EU.It goes in cycles IMO. We're in a particularly nasty point at the moment, but it will change back again when people realise they are obviously worse off. Maybe I'm just optimistic...
People are so stubborn it’s going to take generations. My generation has been set back an incredible amount.It goes in cycles IMO. We're in a particularly nasty point at the moment, but it will change back again when people realise they are obviously worse off. Maybe I'm just optimistic...
If it’s anything like Fox News, it’ll be far past any sort of conventional media and into propaganda.Like any other news or media outlet then, there isn’t a single one out there that is impartial or unbiased.
We’ve been saying the same in the US since the beginning of Reaganomics in the 80’s and it’s only gotten worse...It goes in cycles IMO. We're in a particularly nasty point at the moment, but it will change back again when people realise they are obviously worse off. Maybe I'm just optimistic...
Had a good friend years ago named John Michael George. He wasn’t too bad.Never trust a man with two first names.
Good Lord, that's unprecedented.Had a good friend years ago named John Michael George. He wasn’t too bad.
Some others thought he was the anti-christ.Good Lord, that's unprecedented.
That literally sounds like fascism, and it's hard to look at the world and not worry that things are pulling in that direction.This is some scary shit. Genuinely feel like we’re on our way to something very very bad. Feels like this country has no hope at this point.
Is there any way for good to win when the harsh mentality of those in power and the most privileged has somehow managed to line up with half of the working class who are filled with hatred? And with media fanning the flames, it’s fecked.
Umm akschually the best comic book movie of all time is Edge of Tomorrow. But V for Vendetta was cool too.Still the best comic book movie of all time. Maybe the film ending will become a reality .
Yes, leftist liberals want to burn those who have different opinions and views.So, by the majority of comments here, let me see if I got it correctly:
For those on the left, who often call themselves liberals, free speech applies only when someone shares the same opinions and views as yours. Otherwise, they should burn.
Did I get it right?
Actually no. As far as I can see no one in this thread has attempted to curtail the freedom of speech of the new channel, or even suggested that it should be done.So, by the majority of comments here, let me see if I got it correctly:
For those on the left, who often call themselves liberals, free speech applies only when someone shares the same opinions and views as yours. Otherwise, they should burn.
Did I get it right?
This is exactly my sentiments. The ingtedients are there to increase the chance of setting fire to our own house. Exaggerated confrontational opposites are being created stock full of confrontational labels. Targetted social media and Search engine increasing this further.This is some scary shit. Genuinely feel like we’re on our way to something very very bad. Feels like this country has no hope at this point.
Is there any way for good to win when the harsh mentality of those in power and the most privileged has somehow managed to line up with half of the working class who are filled with hatred? And with media fanning the flames, it’s fecked.
Just what we need. More right wing propoganda.Read today that Andrew Neil has quit the BBC to help launch GB News. Sounds like it will be the UK version of Fox News. Expect LBC but on television. Rupert Murdoch is apparently planning a similar TV channel.
What those on the Right manage to do very successfully is paint a picture of them being the downtrodden, under represented and mistreated sector of society. The reality is that it is the ideology of the Right that shapes the society we live in.
With most of the print media firmly right of centre, I'm quite worried about these views translating to tv
Anyway, I suppose I'm looking for people's views on this. Obviously I don't think so, but do others feel that their Right leaning views are not represented in the media? How much of a shit show will this channel and others like it be? Will BoJo buck his recent trend and actually appear on this channel?
Seems more like inflammatory bollocks you just made up.So, by the majority of comments here, let me see if I got it correctly:
For those on the left, who often call themselves liberals, free speech applies only when someone shares the same opinions and views as yours. Otherwise, they should burn.
Did I get it right?
Yawn.So, by the majority of comments here, let me see if I got it correctly:
For those on the left, who often call themselves liberals, free speech applies only when someone shares the same opinions and views as yours. Otherwise, they should burn.
Did I get it right?
Yes because we realise that they have free speech to say hateful and incorrect things and that is why we are fearful, to which we have the free speech to criticise.So, by the majority of comments here, let me see if I got it correctly:
For those on the left, who often call themselves liberals, free speech applies only when someone shares the same opinions and views as yours. Otherwise, they should burn.
Did I get it right?
Being the typical right wing caf poster where they chuck words into the lefty caf mouth in order to make a point about how oppressed they are as someone with bigoted views?What the hell are you actually playing at?
BBC entertainment may be slightly left leaning but BBC news has a strong bias, right wing, pro government.The BBC gets hate from the left for being too right-wing and from the right for being too left-wing. By and large, that's a good sign that they're mostly impartial. I trust them as much I can trust any single source of news.
How long will he be working for? 5-10 years max until they draft in someone who will give the right a free ride. Also, he will not be presenting every show.Andrew Neil is right wing but in an honest kind of way. He never gave people on the right a free ride even if he propagandized similar interests in his spare time. He's a proper journalist.
That's offensive to @Mr Pigeon!People flapping far too much here. @Jippy is right, it won’t be that popular and will be preaching mostly to the choir.
Tories took my wings after means testing me. cnuts.That's offensive to @Mr Pigeon!
And let's see how 'right wing he is, in an honest kind of way' if he doesn't have to worry about being on the bbc.How long will he be working for? 5-10 years max until they draft in someone who will give the right a free ride. Also, he will not be presenting every show.
I wonder if they said the same about fox news early on?People flapping far too much here. @Jippy is right, it won’t be that popular and will be preaching mostly to the choir.
Do you really find it terrifying?Genuinely find this quite terrifying and I’ve absolutely no doubt it will further the current discourse in the U.K. and push those susceptible people further off the deep end.
Exactly, it’ll be an echo chamber channel. Reading this thread, some people think it’s the end of the world, it’ll have no more impact than RT in the news stakes.People flapping far too much here. @Jippy is right, it won’t be that popular and will be preaching mostly to the choir.
I do. I think any news channel that shows extreme bias one way or the another is dangerous and cannot legally call itself news. People can present the facts and discuss but if a channel is set up to literally only give out viewpoints that benefit who they support then it is not a good thing.Do you really find it terrifying?
There’s a big/massive difference between right leaning and right wing views. Just because it’s a different viewpoint from you, doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be heard.
Nothing wrong with different views being represented, and it’s far better to have these views in the mainstream media where they can be critiqued. Otherwise you get more extreme views on the likes of Facebook to pump the same type of content to you and keep you in your own echo chamber.
Remember when the leader of the BNP Nick Griffin finally got airtime on Question Time. It destroyed his credibility and his party.
So you are making the assumption it will show an extreme bias?I do. I think any news channel that shows extreme bias one way or the another is dangerous and cannot legally call itself news. People can present the facts and discuss but if a channel is set up to literally only give out viewpoints that benefit who they support then it is not a good thing.
You only need to see how shitty the US is right now with Fox completely ignoring anything bad for Trump and stoking racial tensions. We don’t need any more of that in the U.K.
People can also gain followings as much as they lose them when they are given air time. Nobody hears about Milo Yianoppolous or Katie Hopkins anymore because they were de-platformed. It works.
Different conditions in the US. They scrapped impartiality laws and that opened ground for partisan TV channels. The UK news output is dominated by the BBC and Sky news. There are tighter regulations here on permissible content and bias. If the Tories defund the BBC and ‘reform’ Ofcom then you’d need to be worried.I do. I think any news channel that shows extreme bias one way or the another is dangerous and cannot legally call itself news. People can present the facts and discuss but if a channel is set up to literally only give out viewpoints that benefit who they support then it is not a good thing.
You only need to see how shitty the US is right now with Fox completely ignoring anything bad for Trump and stoking racial tensions. We don’t need any more of that in the U.K.
People can also gain followings as much as they lose them when they are given air time. Nobody hears about Milo Yianoppolous or Katie Hopkins anymore because they were de-platformed. It works.
Maybe not to start out but it will 100% be right leaning.So you are making the assumption it will show an extreme bias?
There’s a lot a dramatic views in this thread based on one press release.
It's hardly an outlandish assumption. We've heard about this coming for months now and all the noises are It's going to be a Toby Young style bollocks speaking for those who for no reason feel oppressed.So you are making the assumption it will show an extreme bias?
There’s a lot a dramatic views in this thread based on one press release.