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Hurry up and stick The Hives (aka the best band performing at the entire festival) up on iPlayer BBC.
They played before they started broadcasting from that stage so there's a chance it doesn't make it to the iPlayer at all.
 

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There's more to Glasto than headliners dude, enjoyed loads of sets today thanks.
I'm aware, having been plenty of times. Best Headliner I saw was probably Stevie Wonder though. Best non headliner...maybe The National or Nick Cave, although Faithless were also great.
 

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They played before they started broadcasting from that stage do there's a chance it doesn't make it to the iPlayer at all.
What a complete pisstake. Best live band on the planet gets glossed over whilst we get every second of Alex Turner trying to outdo Marilyn Manson by sticking his head up his own arse.
 

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I'm aware, having been plenty of times. Best Headliner I saw was probably Stevie Wonder though. Best non headliner...maybe The National or Nick Cave, although Faithless were also great.
Mate, I'm just disappointed to hell, I've loved this band from day dot, my sister lives in Sheffield and she put me on to them before they hit the mainstream, sucks to see them like this now, a fecking shadow of themselves.
 

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Did he mean to start singing star treatment ??

:lol:

I don’t think you understand any of it to be honest. You do know it’s not just a dj set where they fade two songs in and out?

Every time you see Fred Again.. you’ll hear different versions of the same songs. The live performances are littered with mistakes, or three minute songs stretched to 10 minutes, or mad shit throw in for the location they’re performing in.

You seem to think it’s just a playlist, which is mad. It’s live music in exactly the same way Bands are.
I do understand it. Like a lot of people I just don’t see it as “performing music”. It’s definitely not live music in the exact same way a band play is. There’s no singing and there’s no instruments. For me those are crucial parts of a live music performance. Using a computer and playing different sounds through it just isn’t the same. I understand fans of this music are dedicated to it but you have to accept to a lot of people it’s kind of nonsense…
 

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Mate, I'm just disappointed to hell, I've loved this band from day dot, my sister lives in Sheffield and she put me on to them before they hit the mainstream, sucks to see them like this now, a fecking shadow of themselves.
Things change, but I do know what you mean. They chose to go a different direction a few years ago and that's not really Glasto headline material.

Being a Sheffielder I'll always love them, especially the first album. I lived 2 doors down from Alex around 2007, used to see him and Alexa Chung fairly frequently, she was/is gorgeous.
 

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Things change, but I do know what you mean. They chose to go a different direction a few years ago and that's not really Glasto headline material.

Being a Sheffielder I'll always love them, especially the first album. I lived 2 doors down from Alex around 2007, used to see him and Alexa Chung fairly frequently, she was/is gorgeous.
I obviously saw your location, didn't want to use that as a stick to beat you with though :cool:
 

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They peaked with the bootlegs.
 

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Rumours of A Certain Romance to finish were wrong, not surprising, but a shame. Although I guess the crowd would be happier with R U Mine.
 

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Did he mean to start singing star treatment ??

:lol:


I do understand it. Like a lot of people I just don’t see it as “performing music”. It’s definitely not live music in the exact same way a band play is. There’s no singing and there’s no instruments. For me those are crucial parts of a live music performance. Using a computer and playing different sounds through it just isn’t the same. I understand fans of this music are dedicated to it but you have to accept to a lot of people it’s kind of nonsense…
He sang and played instruments in that set today.
 

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Did he mean to start singing star treatment ??

:lol:


I do understand it. Like a lot of people I just don’t see it as “performing music”. It’s definitely not live music in the exact same way a band play is. There’s no singing and there’s no instruments. For me those are crucial parts of a live music performance. Using a computer and playing different sounds through it just isn’t the same. I understand fans of this music are dedicated to it but you have to accept to a lot of people it’s kind of nonsense…
I've literally never heard anyone under the age of 70 express this opinion and I let them off because I wouldn't expect them to have any idea of what does goes into it. It takes a lot of talent and technically can be considered an instrument. They're using a device to manipulate sounds in real time.

Yes you can get some hack who just plays a mix-tape but that's not what the likes of Daft Punk are doing when performing live.
 

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Did he mean to start singing star treatment ??

:lol:


I do understand it. Like a lot of people I just don’t see it as “performing music”. It’s definitely not live music in the exact same way a band play is. There’s no singing and there’s no instruments. For me those are crucial parts of a live music performance. Using a computer and playing different sounds through it just isn’t the same. I understand fans of this music are dedicated to it but you have to accept to a lot of people it’s kind of nonsense…
He… sang and played instruments………

I mean, it’s fine not to like it. I don’t much care for Ed Sheeran, Coldplay, U2. But it’s not like I wave my hand and say ‘Needs more iMac’.

Really odd hill to die on. Daft Punk are literally in the Pantheon of ‘Greatest musical acts of all time’ and have one of the best Live performances of all time (Alive 2007) acknowledged by pretty much everyone across all sorts of genres… and you wave it off as nonsense.
 

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The old music has to be played on a guitar to be credible argument?

Thought that one died years ago.
 

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Sorry lads but it’s a nonsense as “live music or contemporary arts”. I appreciate it could be fun, people knowing the words, drunk and in the sun. If I was in a club and I heard those songs I’d think “that’s alright” and dance along to it. I read he writes songs too, that’s a talent.
But it’s a nonsense as far as having it second to last - second stage Glasto as some sort of live spectical. It is a guy playing music from an iMac, it cannot be dressed up as anything else. Yea he’s very good at playing music from an iMac but he’s still just playing music from an iMac.
He was literally playing a keyboard. Does the instrument need strings to get some validation from you?

Probably best to just admit you don’t know what he’s doing and move on. Through my youth I played a cornet at a very high level, guitar in a shitty band and DJ’d drum and bass. All of them took an insane amount of hours to learn, with guitar definitely being the easiest.
 

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I don’t recall hot chip not being at Glastonbury

are there stats out there with most appearance?
 

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I've literally never heard anyone under the age of 70 express this opinion and I let them off because I wouldn't expect them to have any idea of what does goes into it. It takes a lot of talent and technically can be considered an instrument. They're using a device to manipulate sounds in real time.

Yes you can get some hack who just plays a mix-tape but that's not what the likes of Daft Punk are doing when performing live.
So they’re great producers. That’s different to performing actual live music. I appreciate and acknowledge the technical skill that goes behind putting together recorded music, mixing sounds, crossing genres etc but it is still fundamentally done on a computer. That to me and many people doesn’t equate to performing “live” music.


He… sang and played instruments………

I mean, it’s fine not to like it. I don’t much care for Ed Sheeran, Coldplay, U2. But it’s not like I wave my hand and say ‘Needs more iMac’.

Really odd hill to die on. Daft Punk are literally in the Pantheon of ‘Greatest musical acts of all time’ and have one of the best Live performances of all time (Alive 2007) acknowledged by pretty much everyone across all sorts of genres… and you wave it off as nonsense.
I mean he played instruments in the same way Liam Gallagher plays his tambourine. It didn’t add much to the performance. This type of music performed live as actual live music isn’t actually live music by definition . People are free to interpret it as live music as they wish and give it all magnitude of praise. But they have to accept a lot of people will disagree with it massively.
I don’t really see much difference in what DJs do to what someone producing an album does. I wouldn’t pay money to see James Ford (produces Arctic monkeys albums)
stood on stage putting together an arctic monkeys album, editing in sounds, creating loops etc. But I guess some people would…
 

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The old music has to be played on a guitar to be credible argument?

Thought that one died years ago.
He was literally playing a keyboard. Does the instrument need strings to get some validation from you?

Probably best to just admit you don’t know what he’s doing and move on. Through my youth I played a cornet at a very high level, guitar in a shitty band and DJ’d drum and bass. All of them took an insane amount of hours to learn, with guitar definitely being the easiest.
Did not mention guitar once… there are instruments other than guitars.

It doesn’t matter how many times people keep saying “you don’t know what he’s doing”…it’s still just creating music fundamentally through computers. That is not live music. Simple.
 

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So they’re great producers. That’s different to performing actual live music. I appreciate and acknowledge the technical skill that goes behind putting together recorded music, mixing sounds, crossing genres etc but it is still fundamentally done on a computer. That to me and many people doesn’t equate to performing “live” music.
What does 'done on a computer' even mean?

I'm talking about the live performance. I'm not talking about creating a song in a studio. When they play live they rework the tracks, mix in other samples and songs, manipulate the sounds being played in real time and will extend a short song out to much longer based on the vibe of the crowd. No two sets are the same. It is a live performance of music.
 

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To me, and I think to a lot of people, using electric instruments or microphones is not really live music.
 

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Note to self: Don't get sucked into pointless arguments on the internet.

Ok, we're good.
 

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This is fecking disgusting, wtf is wrong with people?

A brilliant young female artist abused online because she happened to be performing with no band??
 

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This is fecking disgusting, wtf is wrong with people?

A brilliant young female artist abused online because she happened to be performing with no band??
I love Billy Bragg, a true gent. Glad to see him standing up for her.
Yeah he's a top bloke, this has properly riled me, the internet's a f**king cess pit.

Absolute unaccountable scum.
 

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I'm in the minority here but I'm enjoying this. That said if I were there I'd be watching Chemical Brothers (saw AM a few weeks back).
I think the Tranquility Base, Hotel & Casino album is the best thing they've ever done. I saw AM play a showcase here in LA/Silverlake, where they were shopping for a US label for their debut album. It was at Spaceland, a tiny club that holds 200 people. The band were spiky and caffeinated, a lot of hooks but no song craft. I think they grew into their shoes over time. They kinda left all the guitar pop bands behind with TBH&C and did a futuristic version of The Wall. That said, the album that came after it I haven't been able to get into at all. No wonder they are appearing live as neither fish nor fowl. If anything, Turner proved he was bored with the old sound years ago, don't know why people expect a tribute act.
 

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I was there right near the front and fecking loved it. Alex Turner had us eating out of the palm of his hand. Me and everyone around me were absolutely loving it
He’s a showman with bollocks to step up and headline Glastonbury
 

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This is fecking disgusting, wtf is wrong with people?

A brilliant young female artist abused online because she happened to be performing with no band??
JFC that's awful. I don't know her solo stuff but I liked the song she did with Sleaford Mods. People are cnuts.
 

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Elon Musk's terrible website is very keen to show me people's opinions about the Arctic Monkeys performance for some reason and fans of the band are very unimpressed that those of us who've barely seen a Turner performance in the last 15 years weren't in to it.