Quite possible if one party asked for the extension first they might have been trying to get some info on the size of the other bid, maybe so they know what they have to beat.
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It also is a reminder that they're being told what the various parties want the public to know. It's all been directed PR, not some Deep Throat-esque sources meeting in a parking garage with secret info for the reporters.
600 Billion? Now that would be something...
It’s hilarious isn’t it…watching a grown man trying his best to convince everyone he has an ounce of journalistic integrity.
Only for the fool to completely show himself up 10 minutes later with another round of fluff.
That's the type of bid that would be going in if Jassim hired the guy earlier in the thread who paid £9k over the asking price for his house
Ratcliffe and Al-Thani have both failed to bid in time, therefore Ratcliffe isn't being serious but Al-Thani is so serious that no one has a chance. He will, in fact, bid £500b.
This makes perfect sense.
That's what I think is happening. Also the merchant bank overseeing the process will be notifying prospective bidders of what the highest offer is imo, to create the best conditions for the Glazers to profit from.
There are numbers you can call my friend...
Indeed - all parties have vested interests. Very difficult to know where the truth lies in any of this. In reality, we know vanishingly little about the substance of any of these bids.
You just need to slip a brown bag ($1M) to a runner within the Raine link to message the information ASAP. The kid's probably at Raine to pad his CV anyway.
Yeah sure Jassim, the world’s richest man, will just bid over half a trillion for the club.
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Yep the Glazers will be trying to create a bidding war.
Where do the 31% stand on this?
Do they really want to sell?
Does this make the SJR or 92 Foundation more favourable to them?
These are things not being talked about.
New majority shareholders can probably initiate a squeeze out.
In effect that’s probably what’s happening. Could be a sign that the glazers do indeed want to sell and do so quickly. Both bids were rumoured to be close to that so could just be a nudge.
Who are the "multiple" bidders?
Who bids billions if they arent serious? these people arent public.. It's not like they are bidding just to get in the news and get some coverage.
Does it make sense to dismiss them and presume its a 2 horse race?
Who bids billions if they arent serious? these people arent public.. It's not like they are bidding just to get in the news and get some coverage.
Does it make sense to dismiss them and presume its a 2 horse race?
I think they are most likely the Elliott type of financing options, but could be US consortiums too. I think it is still likely to be a 2 horse race.
Reality is we have no idea, nor any control over the outcome. Just hope there is nothing in the murmurs of the glazers retaining control, but will assume that until they are officially gone.
I suspect Glazers have been told by both Ratcliffe and Qatar that they're not getting a better offer from them... And the greedy cnuts are now scrambling, lying about other bidders, trying to manufacture interest.
The goblins aren't getting a billion pounds each and they're fuming.
The goblins aren't getting a billion pounds each and they're fuming.
I know that bit but do they also want to lose their cash cow?
In the hypothetical that Elliot & Glazers go into business, they stay on and claim to love us fans... What will actually happen? Fans go mad for couple of weeks but a new summer signing and we're good?
They're in their 70s, they can sell for billions or take out 50m a year, they can sell now and be stress free
I meant the 31% owners, the investment groups that own the odd 6/7%s. United is a cash cow for them as well, not just for the Glazers.
No one ever seem to discuss how they have been milking us too.Do they think handing their shares back is good business long term?
Don't think they get a choice. Also I'd assume that the remaining percentage is spread out so thin it isn't worth much to the holders outside of showing off.
Is it not the norm at United? In my lifetime, we’ve never had owners that are universally accepted. We’ll just hate them in the United way till they play us again.
Unlike most fans I see them as businessmen and have no issues with how they operate with profits. My issue is their hands off style and appointments.
The Qatar bid got leaked to Jim who then asked for more time to try and beat it.
Jazz found out about the leak and is expecting Jim to come in with an even bigger bid so now jazz wants more time to go even higher than what he expects Jim's offer to be.
Jazz found out about the leak and is expecting Jim to come in with an even bigger bid so now jazz wants more time to go even higher than what he expects Jim's offer to be.
Maybe they are considering @Mr Pigeon's last minute bid.
I sent a letter to the club this morning. Fingers crossed!
Can't wait to see the new look Old Trafford (exactly the same but without those spikes that stops birds perching on the roof).
I'd say it's the norm at every club, ask any City fan what they thought about Peter Swales!
They won’t have a choice so it doesn’t matter
69% is what the Glazer's own, they sell that they own zero
Or 6000 Billion
Sounds like Sheikh Jassim and SJR are waiting for the other to bid first, hence the extensions as no one flinched.
Imagine Sheikh Jassim puts in a bid of £5.5b only to find out SJR would only have gone up to £5.1b and a much lower offer would have beaten him. He could potentially save £400m which would go towards the squad/stadium.
Saying all that though, it comes down to whether the Glazers are serious about not selling if their valuation isn't met. In that situation even if Sheikh Jassim blows the competition away, it still might not be enough and more money will be asked for.
Imagine Sheikh Jassim puts in a bid of £5.5b only to find out SJR would only have gone up to £5.1b and a much lower offer would have beaten him. He could potentially save £400m which would go towards the squad/stadium.
Saying all that though, it comes down to whether the Glazers are serious about not selling if their valuation isn't met. In that situation even if Sheikh Jassim blows the competition away, it still might not be enough and more money will be asked for.
So many experts around that are sure of everything but actually know nothing... And the journalists don't seem to know anything either
There have apparently been more bids than just those two.
If the Qatar bid doesn’t win it will always be a ‘what if’ moment for me
Our future with them is cemented at the top of football with funds to compete with anybody and a stadium that can be among the best in Europe
Our future with them is cemented at the top of football with funds to compete with anybody and a stadium that can be among the best in Europe
Do you think Bayern are doomed to eternal mediocrity because they aren’t owned by an autocratic middle eastern oil and gas state ?
Do they compete in a league with other clubs spending upwards of 200m+ on average?
we are talking about Manchester United. The club that lost almost a whole team in 1958 but won the biggest trophies around in the next ten years. The club that got relegated, came back, and became the dominant force in British football. The idea that some people think that we need Qatar is just depressing
Yeah, the Champions League. They've beaten those teams a few times.
They compete in the CL and routinely achieve better results than us there. PSG and City could learn a thing or two from them given that neither seems capable of winning it. So much for the gratuitous splendor of sugar daddy ownership.
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