dev1l
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He s no young anymore... 30 years.I think Roma were offered to buy him for £18 million but they did not accept this.
Footballers value tend to depreciate once they get older than 30.
He s no young anymore... 30 years.I think Roma were offered to buy him for £18 million but they did not accept this.
Yes absolutely and that is also when the injuries normally start to kick in.He s no young anymore... 30 years.
Footballers value tend to depreciate once they get older than 30.
He's absolutely miles better than Cahill.Genuinely, what does he have that Gary Cahill didn't?
HahaThen I hope we sell him for bucket loads because he is worth loads more than we bought players like Lindelof & Bailly for - hate that we sell players for pennies.
Knowing us we probably did a deal before he hit any form though.
Agree.Gets left alone by his partners and midfielders time and time again. He is the only one i feel who defends strikers, Lindelöf usually defends space. If the other CBs are ball watching, he will get blamed.
He is not perfect, but he is our best CB, quite easily
Smalling said he doesn't wanna return at the clubHe and Smalling seem a really good pairing
I believe smalling has informed the club that he wishes to stay in Roma
There's a bit of coal I didn't know was in my stocking.Smalling said he doesn't wanna return at the club
I am here to help out in any wayThere's a bit of coal I didn't know was in my stocking.
Sorry harms but this is absolute nonsense, Leicester for a start don't play in a low block and Maguire excels in games like yesterday where we play a high line and he steps into the midfield often.He’s a good center back for a low defensive back line, but I can’t see him excelling in a more modern pressing-based style of play.
Leicester’s defensive line’s average position was 41,6 meters from a goal last season. League’s average was 42,8, United’s last season was 43,1. It is a big difference by the way, I feel that I should specify as it’s not a common stat.Sorry harms but this is absolute nonsense, Leicester for a start don't play in a low block and Maguire excels in games like yesterday where we play a high line and he steps into the midfield often.
There's a reason Pep wanted him for his modern pressing-based style of play.
It makes total sense that Maguire is good when sitting back and waiting for the opponent... but have you seen Maguire his acceleration, speed and how he turns? How is that ever going to work with a high defensive line combined with pressing?Sorry harms but this is absolute nonsense, Leicester for a start don't play in a low block and Maguire excels in games like yesterday where we play a high line and he steps into the midfield often.
There's a reason Pep wanted him for his modern pressing-based style of play.
It makes total sense that Maguire is good when sitting back and waiting for the opponent... but have you seen Maguire his acceleration, speed and how he turns? How is that ever going to work with a high defensive line combined with pressing?
I refuse to believe Pep wanted him. Just a media thing.
According to Pep they were interested, but in fairness he wouldn’t be the first manager to lie in a press conference.
Pep said himself that they wanted him and Sam Lee, the best connected City journalist said that they bid £75m but would go no higher, they tried to send Otamendi the other way but Leicester but that fell through because of Otamendi's wages. It's about as far from 'just a media' thing as you'll get with a transfer. The actual manager admitting it and the best connected journalists giving highly detailed accounts of the transfer.It makes total sense that Maguire is good when sitting back and waiting for the opponent... but have you seen Maguire his acceleration, speed and how he turns? How is that ever going to work with a high defensive line combined with pressing?
I refuse to believe Pep wanted him. Just a media thing.
You hated Valencia for that? Seriously?One thing I need to give him credit for is fronting up with the media after every match, especially those when we're tumescent, despite the fact he cannot keep a clean sheet to save his life in the league right now. That's a real part of being a captain and leader, and is why I gave Young a pass at times, but have nothing but contempt for Valencia who, despite being club captain in really challenging times, never found the courage to do it once.
Thankfully 2 posters shut this post up immediately so I didn't have to. You probably also refuse to believe we play in red at home if it doesn't suit your point/agenda @StadjerI refuse to believe Pep wanted him. Just a media thing.
Why is it that the moment you dont agree with someone that you have an agenda? Im not even claiming Maguire is a bad defender but he has some very clear weak parts in his game.Thankfully 2 posters shut this post up immediately so I didn't have to. You probably also refuse to believe we play in red at home if it doesn't suit your point/agenda @Stadjer
Dont think Pep has any say in how high their bids go.Pep is generally overly positive in his comments regarding the opposition. That said, I’m sure that City was interested, but it was also Pep who was caught on camera instructing De Bruyne to push into Maguire’s zone to exploit his lack of pace; and it was Pep, who refused to pay over the top to get him. Hence why I don’t really like this argument.
Yes, tonnes of slow defenders have spent their entire careers doing it. Vidic was a perfect example, but he had Rio & Evra to cover him and only very very rarely did he get exposed.You think Maguire would do well with a lot of space behind him?
It’s a completely baseless assumption on my point, but I’d hazard a guess that if Pep really wants someone, they’d be willing to pay more than just for a name from a Pep-vetoed list.Dont think Pep has any say in how high their bids go.
They wouldn't pay £75m for VVD either.It’s a completely baseless assumption on my point, but I’d hazard a guess that if Pep really wants someone, they’d be willing to pay more than just for a name from a Pep-vetoed list.
Valencia’s English is fine. He just prefers not to speak it in public. Valencia being appointed captain is a great example of how standards fell at the club over a number of years. Club captaincy is a leadership role and Valencia showed none of that. It’s only natural to lose respect for him. It was great that we showed him the door.You hated Valencia for that? Seriously?
English was not even his strongest language.
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How would you rate him and Lindelof? They did their job but did nothing special... a 8 would be too high and 5 too low in my opinion. So anything inbetween would be fair imo.It can't be easy being a cb in United. Both him and Lindelöf flawless, and they are still miles from other players ratings despite not conceding. Very strange.
Well it all depends. When we concede some goals their rating pummels (especially Lindelofs) even if they have played fine or even good. They are judged on a different level than other players. Maguire is too expensive and Lindelof is too soft and bad in the air, or so they say. When they don't make any mistakes, as yesterday it's: "They did their job" That's more than a bit unfair imo.How would you rate him and Lindelof? They did their job but did nothing special... a 8 would be too high and 5 too low in my opinion. So anything inbetween would be fair imo.
There is always a tendency to give attacking players higher ratings. Personally I agree with you, 6-7 is fair for both Lindelof and Maguire considering the team they were playing against. Same with Martial. He did his job but nothing more as I expect him to score against Burnsley, also worth 6-7.How would you rate him and Lindelof? They did their job but did nothing special... a 8 would be too high and 5 too low in my opinion. So anything inbetween would be fair imo.