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Sorry Tom but this will always be for me the
ultimate male relationship on screen.
ultimate male relationship on screen.
Thoughts on this?
Presumably, by equal measure, gay guys should no longer be accepting straight roles or something?
Serial killer movies to become a thing of the past due to the inavailabilty of actors with multiple murder convictions.
I wonder if the gay Neil Patrick Harris now regrets playing the fiercely heterosexual Barney Stinson?
Can I refer you to my post 9847Fecking stupid idea. Exactly the sort of nonsense that prompted the question in the thread title. Apart from anything else, what fecking right do casting directors have to demand to know the sexual preference of the person who turns up to the audition?!
there are plenty of straight actors in the world. we don’t need more of them. it’s the lack of gay actors and gay roles that is the problem.
there are plenty of straight actors in the world. we don’t need more of them. it’s the lack of gay actors and gay roles that is the problem.
Yeah, cause we all know that minority groups get pigeon holedYeah, cause we all know how the dramatic arts holds no appeal for gay men….
The thing is though, the heterosexual story is one we know, childhood teen, adult, marriage, kids.
It's been in every story since we started telling stories. So basically a gay actor knows the trials and tribulations of growing up straight and acting it.
However, the gay or trans or disabled stories are told far less, so less information is available, and what is out there is so little that it becomes stereotypes.
Yeah, cause we all know that minority groups get pigeon holed
that’s a stereotype right thereYeah, cause we all know how the dramatic arts holds no appeal for gay men….
Surely that's a lack of Muslim casters problem, a lack of Muslim screenwriters problem.With that logic no one other than Muslims should be able to act in Muslim roles, since they would not know the trials and tribulations of being Muslim in western countries were Muslims are generally discriminated against.
There is such a thing called research for a role. If an actor/actress, whichever religion or sexuality they belong to, respects the role and does a good job portraying it then I don't see any issue.
As a Muslim, my problem isn't the lack of Muslims seen on screen but rather the way Muslims are stereotyped. If a Muslim is cast in a movie but is playing a typical terrorist, that doesn't do any progress for us.
What’s your point? Do you really think gay men are under-represented in the dramatic arts?
that’s a stereotype right there
Yeah, cause we all know how the dramatic arts holds no appeal for gay men….
Do you also think there are no gay footballers?
Is it though? Or are they just scared to come out because of the stereotyping and the abuse?Eh? Weird tangent but ok. To be clear. Men or women’s football? Because it’s fair to say gay men are underrepresented in men’s football but the opposite probably true in the women’s game.
It shouldn’t be controversial to acknowledge these things.
It shouldn’t be controversial to acknowledge these things.
Ok mate, you don't really know who I am and who I know. I've been in the kinda environments where you meet all the creative people.Do you know any actors? Talk to them. Or even someone who went to drama school. You’ll find out how much of a stereotype that really is.
Is it though? Or are they just scared to come out because of the stereotyping and the abuse?
It's the general wording that you used. Do you mean all gay men are interested in theatre? I presume that's not what you meant, but that's how it read at first.
And it's a bit of a damaging stereotype, so even if it is true that gay men are overrepresented in the arts, it's still a stereotype that I don't think helps anyone, no matter the gender/sexuality.
Why? I've done it my whole life with racismDefinitely many of them not willing/able to come out. For the reasons you say. Plus the fact they’re not likely to stick with the sport long enough to compete at a high level. Must be brutal trying to keep playing a sport full of such overt homophobia.
The exact opposite is true when it comes to working as an actor. It’s an industry which has been very welcoming to gay actors for a long time now.
Ok mate, you don't really know who I am and who I know. I've been in the kinda environments where you meet all the creative people.
So, are actors gay and canvas artists mental?
What about sculpturers? Lesbos? Or guys who fancy tiny dicks?
Dude, slow down and think about your thoughts.
And also,
Why? I've done it my whole life with racism
Why? Why do you need to ask a question with such an obvious answer? And you’re telling me to think more?!?
Why wouldn't they still do it despite the homophobia/racism. feck the hatersWhy? Why do you need to ask a question with such an obvious answer? And you’re telling me to think more?!?
I don't think that's true at the very top. Hollywood etc. actors would stay in the closet for fear of damaging their career at least until recently and most likely a fair few are still closeted.Definitely many of them not willing/able to come out. For the reasons you say. Plus the fact they’re not likely to stick with the sport long enough to compete at a high level. Must be brutal trying to keep playing a sport full of such overt homophobia.
The exact opposite is true when it comes to working as an actor. It’s an industry which has been very welcoming to gay actors for a long time now.
It's not a weird rant, what are the roles for gay men in your opinion? Actors? Gay best friend? Anything not from a Hollywood movie?Weird rant but ok, whatever.
Surely that's a lack of Muslim casters problem, a lack of Muslim screenwriters problem.
But actors don't just read lines, it'd take way too long to get everything right, they rely on the actor's input, they're improvisation etc
Which is why the whole explanation by Tom Hanks made sense.Yea so those are issues outside of casting Muslims in Muslim roles. This is what annoys me sometimes about proposals like these, they are PR solutions that don't tackle the real problem and only serve to create an image.
An actors job can be tough when it comes to roles like this, which is why we need to appreciate the effort that goes into it and not just criticize someone just because of their sexual identity.
Sorry Tom but this will always be for me the
ultimate male relationship on screen.
Of course the unwashed masses and their liberal media pals would care mightily but they'd be too busy wolfing down the latest Batgirl flick to catch it.
I don't think that's true at the very top. Hollywood etc. actors would stay in the closet for fear of damaging their career at least until recently and most likely a fair few are still closeted.
Why wouldn't they still do it despite the homophobia/racism. feck the haters
Bruv, I think I've been doing that for the last 2 hours!I think I'm just typing for the sake of it
It is, but getting to the top of anything is draining.Because I’d say it’s incredibly draining. Not everyone has the stomach for that sort of battle over a long period of time. Becoming a pro footballer is a tough enough grind as it is, without dealing with that on top of everything else.
The general sentiment behind what he said (rather than the specifics of what he said) is pretty reasonable and well-intentioned, I think, even thought it sounds a tad divisive at face value. Obviously, actors should be able to understand and empathize with the mostly fictitious characters they play; and technically, portray any one they're asked to while believably becoming someone else. And, their sexuality is no one's business unless they themselves want to publicly share the information — that goes without saying. But if a certain character is part of a traditionally under-represented or mis-represented or caricaturized or tokenized group or sub-culture, maybe the casting directors should have the sensibility to first and foremost look for actors from specific backgrounds as...Thoughts on this?
Presumably, by equal measure, gay guys should no longer be accepting straight roles or something?
Serial killer movies to become a thing of the past due to the inavailabilty of actors with multiple murder convictions.