Bale. By quite a margin too.
Hazard or Bale
- Thread starter Cascarino
- Start date
-
In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) was joined by comedian Ali Woods to look back at the best and worst moments of a rollercoaster season with the annual United Hour Awards.
Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
Bale. Not even a contest.
Bale
Bale to United and Hazard to Madrid then Memphis to Chelsea
I like it
Bale
Depends on the system you play. When both are on song they are equally as good.
Bale probably, but I'd have Greizmann over both.
Bale would be my ultimate signing for United.
And he would be unlikely to leave if he came back to the EPL.
And he would be unlikely to leave if he came back to the EPL.
Bale easily
Bale.
Bale, easily.
Bale.
Bale, it's really not close
Hazard looks the more naturally talented, but i'm actually not so sure anymore that is the case. And if he is, then it's mentality that's letting him down
Either way, Bale is better. Hazard's two years younger though, still time for him to make that final leap. Assuming he has it in him
Hazard looks the more naturally talented, but i'm actually not so sure anymore that is the case. And if he is, then it's mentality that's letting him down
Either way, Bale is better. Hazard's two years younger though, still time for him to make that final leap. Assuming he has it in him
Bale. He just has that something extra about him. The constant injuries would be a major factor in favour of Hazard though.
And at least Bale has never kicked a ball boy
And at least Bale has never kicked a ball boy
Undoubtedly Bale, he has done it in two leagues, Europe and at international level. It's not even close.
Depends on what you need: A pacey final third playmaker with important contributions to earlier stages of possession? Hazard.
A pacey, physically dominant goalscorer with a well-rounded overall game? Bale.
Both are elite level, but they have very different characteristics, so to me it's mainly a matter of the player type you want.
Another thing: The idea that Bale has been a consistent performer over the last seasons is a myth. He is awesome now, but for Real he is in this form only since little more than a year. Under Ancelotti and Benitez he had difficulties finding his game. Great highlight plays, mixed overall performances. He's great since Zidane took over, but every time he has a brilliant run of form, he gets injured shortly afterwards. So reliability is certainly an issue.
A pacey, physically dominant goalscorer with a well-rounded overall game? Bale.
Both are elite level, but they have very different characteristics, so to me it's mainly a matter of the player type you want.
Another thing: The idea that Bale has been a consistent performer over the last seasons is a myth. He is awesome now, but for Real he is in this form only since little more than a year. Under Ancelotti and Benitez he had difficulties finding his game. Great highlight plays, mixed overall performances. He's great since Zidane took over, but every time he has a brilliant run of form, he gets injured shortly afterwards. So reliability is certainly an issue.
Hazard is the more talented player, Bale is the more effective player.
Hazard is extremely overrated.
Bale has done more in his career at the moment, he's won a shed load of honours and has been brilliant for Real (he was poor for them at one point however)
Whereas Hazard hasn't achieved nearly as much. At the end of their careers I think Hazard may end up being the better player, but it's close at the minute they're both brilliant. If either fancy coming to United they'd be more than welcome to.
Whereas Hazard hasn't achieved nearly as much. At the end of their careers I think Hazard may end up being the better player, but it's close at the minute they're both brilliant. If either fancy coming to United they'd be more than welcome to.
Hazard has the cooler name. Think about it.
Eden.
Hazard.
But I can see Bale running the length of the Old Trafford pitch.
Eden.
Hazard.
But I can see Bale running the length of the Old Trafford pitch.
Bale has clearly delivered a more impressive portfolio of performances on the big stage. I think they're both susceptible to poor bouts of form, with Hazard looking like a wet lettuce for most of last season, and Bale prone to looking a bit clueless against some deep and organised defences. Bale probably masks that poor form better because he's still capable of popping up with big goals, whereas Hazard isn't quite as resilient IMO. At the same time and in fairness to the Belgian, Hazard can suffer reputationally from comparing his goal return with other wide forwards, when really his influence primarily results from his nimble dribbling and creative play.
Like a lot of people have stated, I think Hazard has more talent but Bale is like a Ronaldo-lite. He's super effective and driven. Definitely take Bale.
This.
I do think a lot of players are actually judged on aesthetics instead of their actual effectiveness. Bale is a scaled down version of Ronaldo and has moulded his game on that - it works.
The notion that Roben and Ribery are a level below Neymar and Bale is laughable, and more bias in regards to the two big Spanish teams.
If were talking about 'effectiveness' Hazard has won 2 leagues in 3 seasons, both in which he is one of the best players in the league, he is very effective, if we're talking about stats then thats another story, but you have to remember the composition of the teams Bale and Hazard play for are different, Bale is playing for a team which blitzes the league and plays open expansive football, Hazard especially in the season Chelsea won the league had a greater role for his team than just padding stats against the minnows, he was the hub of the team as a playmaker as a creator and as a scorer, this gets overlooked nearly every time when this discussion is brought up.
It really is close, unless you think Bale is very close to Messi....
To say its not close is hilarious, Hazard is one of the better players in the world and he doesn't play for teams anywhere near as attacking or expansive as the ones Bale and Neymar do.
Exactly.
Both have had very different roles to play in the teams. Hazard has been a playmaker for Lille and last 3 seasons at Chelsea. Bale has only played a direct goal scoring role. He is too selfish to be a playmaker. Hazard can play both ways. Definitely Bale is a better goal scorer probably due to his physical advantage over Hazard. Also, Bale was quite an enigma in the PL and he has the freedom of the world playing for Madrid with Kroos and Madrid feeding him. Hazard has 3 players on him all the time in PL ready to hack him down. I would ideally like both in the team with both on either wings or Hazard playing behind Bale as a SS.
Hazard has never and never will reach the height's Bale did or will, Bale's only achilles heal is that he tend's to get injured quite easily, i'll never forget his last season at Spurs, pure match winner game after game and he's scored in some pretty important games for Madrid too, still gutted he never came here because he had United player written all over him
What heights are those?
Bale comfortably. His pace, power, striking of the ball, long range danger, ability to carry the ball long distances, make him far greater of a threat.
What a daft post. Just look at the sort of numbers Bale and Neymar have been churning out year after year. The likes of Hazard, Robben dont even come close much less Ribery.
Bale, easily. Would love him here.
Different roles and in less attacking teams. I think Ribery's 2012/13 season is better than anything produced by Neymar and edges Bale's best campaign at Spurs for impact on the big stage. But I'd certainly put Robben at least on par with those two and ahead on career contribution to date.
Hazard. At least we know he's PL proven.
Hue hue
Hue hue
You're the one making daft posts here, the numbers doesn't really do your post any type of justice, why don't you actually go look for yourself.
Great. Go for needless insults when your argument does not stand up.
Does anyone remember when there was a Nani or Bale thread. It was hilarious arguing with Nani fans who were convinced Nani was better. Thus wasn't in 2011 even, it was 2013 when it was not even close.