Our most expensive player, but to be honest I'm expecting him to significantly improves our midfield or add more to ours goals ratio. Discuss
Is Mata overrated?
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No.
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Overrated by who?
Jesus Christ! Overreaction. Move on.
He hasn't really done it for us so far like we'd wish but it's way too early to write him off.
Let Van Gaal rebuild the side, play him where he should be playing and see where we are in a years time.
Let Van Gaal rebuild the side, play him where he should be playing and see where we are in a years time.
Nope. We saw how good he was a Chelsea before Jose arrived.
Amount of times he opened the space for our 'attackers' today just for them to either stop midrun or feck things up with retarded cross was just hilarious.
And no, he isn't.
And no, he isn't.
No, he is unfortunate to play with such dross. The amount of times he puts people in good positions is ridiculous.
Should be building the team around him. Giggs not starting him last week, and taking him off and leaving on Hernandez today was idiotic.
Utter crap! He's a great player playing in failed side.
New manager, new players and he and the team will be fine
New manager, new players and he and the team will be fine
On the subject of Mata, the best footballer at the club, there must have been 6 or 7 seven really obvious occasions that Fletcher and particularly Carrick had the chance to play the ball through the middle to his feet, yet they stopped, ignored him and pumped it out wide.
This.
Our overall play was actually better today, the players who were delivering the final ball today were an embarrassment.
Nope. Not at all. We're just playing terrible football, and he's surrounded by pedestrians.
Every player needs a little bit of time to adjust to a new team. Mata came into a dysfunctional team, to expect he can change this on his own asking a bit much imo.
5 goals and 4 assists in 12 games despite the entire team struggling. Not good enough?
It was embarrassing the amount of time our midfield ignored him in acres of space today, just in order to sling it out wide to the marked wide men.
I'd have probably subbed myself if I was Mata today.
I'd have probably subbed myself if I was Mata today.
Well put.
Absolutely not. Should have been kept on to play behind RVP.
He's not overrated. We're underutilising him though. Surround him with better movement and players on the same wavelength and he'll do the business.
With Carrick and Fletcher having such obviously awful games why couldn't one of them go off and stick Mata in the middle?
And how dare you write DISCUSS at the end? What the feck is there to discuss? If you seriously think someone like Mata is overrated, you need to stop watching football.
He should be the first name on the team sheet.
he's come into an awful side in fairness and its clear he has fantastic ability
next season when we freshen the first team up, have new ideas in the dressing room and get our heads sorted we will see the best of him
next season when we freshen the first team up, have new ideas in the dressing room and get our heads sorted we will see the best of him
Not a chance. Messi would look ordinary playing with this clueless bunch. Best player by far in first half.
@Nozzy here's a thread for you
Replace 'Mata' with 'Kagawa' and it's just like riding a time machine.
No.
Next thread please.
Next thread please.
For a moment I had to check if I had been sent back to the newbies.
What, you mean these guys shouldn't have to "adapt" to our wonderful style of football? Pair of wankers.
Troll thread.
Carrick and Fletcher ignored him time and time again today. They looked for passes to the wing at every opportunity under orders from the manager. The class of 92 are not a fan of Mata and what he brings to the party, as Gary Neville keeps telling us.
Not for me. I don't know what people expect. If there were players running off the ball and making space for him/providing options and he wasn't putting in a good enough pass then have a go but what do people want? His options are limited by how we set up. Young was sticking wide or either flank and Nani may have made the odd run forward but it clearly not up to speed yet. That leaves Hernandez, who due to the limited movement from the other attacking players now has two CBs comfortably marking him.
Mata/Kagawa and players like them need others making runs to open space and provide options. Give that to them and they'll make things happen don't and they won't have a massive impact.
At some point we'll need to decide what sort of team we want to be. I hope that we get in two wingers who are comfortable wide but also comfortable running from out to in and allowed to because these are the players who will get the best out of someone like Mata. If we want wide players who will stay wide then I'm not sure Mata is needed.
Mata/Kagawa and players like them need others making runs to open space and provide options. Give that to them and they'll make things happen don't and they won't have a massive impact.
At some point we'll need to decide what sort of team we want to be. I hope that we get in two wingers who are comfortable wide but also comfortable running from out to in and allowed to because these are the players who will get the best out of someone like Mata. If we want wide players who will stay wide then I'm not sure Mata is needed.
shit thread. He's not overrated. Whats overrated is wing play, 4-4-2 and the "United way".
If he had players around him who share a similar level of technical ability, then Mata would be running riot. Mata being surrounded by players like Young, Carrick and Fletcher who constantly slow our play down means that Mata is shackled. Mata needs to play in a side that utilises quick phases of play. We don't. We don't play with pace. We don't play on the counter. We don't do anything. We get it out wide, and boot it towards the penalty spot. Mata is going to look awful in such a system.
Both of them need to prove themselves on the left first. At the same time.
No.
We have to realize that not every top footballer can do everything on his own. He needs a system to work in.
One would hope the penny would drop when top players like Kagawa and Mata both suddenly dont look as good as they are.
We have to realize that not every top footballer can do everything on his own. He needs a system to work in.
One would hope the penny would drop when top players like Kagawa and Mata both suddenly dont look as good as they are.
He was still the only one trying to create something only for our attackers to feck it up. Also had our almost only (?) shot on target at least.
We should sell him immediately for a £20m loss. Preferably to one of our nearest rivals.