Ignore it man we all have players we like and some we don't and we do go overboard sometimes in their praise and criticism, but Pogba does bring out the worst in some posters it sometimes just feel so personal for them it's better not to engage with such posters.Fergiesarmy1 has really embarrassed himself in this thread, to the point where, if you were a newbie, I’m sure the mods would be circling. For someone who is likely a grumpy old man in reality, all retorts haven’t been above primary school playground level.
Essex? or Northumberland?I try to keep civil but your a joker, I’ve noticed your a pogbaista - I’ve been over 500 hundred games home away and abroad so don’t even go there.
Do you know where Manchester is?
Aye, that’s it in a nutshell.Because people have been allowing their buttons to be pushed ever since he joined. Hes never been outside our best 3 performers since he came but people outside the club who know nothing about his personality, professionalism etc know that they can get attention by talking about him.
As far as I can see all he's really ever done is make one bad comment in an interview in Japan about being open to a new challenge. It not even unusual in the modern game. Other than that his crime seems to be his gait and style of play which to me looks completely inherent.
People have lost their minds when it comes to Pogba. Its become highly emotive for some people. But the narrative behind most of it seems to be an invention. 90% of opinions on him seem laced with projection. Very odd.
Another post that absolutely nails it.For how long? Until two bad games in a row and all that went before will be forgotten. In fact, the whole season will be written off as a disappointment. The same will happen with Martial, and mark my words, Fred will go back to being rubbish soon too, after only a couple of games. There is a group of players who have much shorter string, and are generally warmed to grudgingly. There are others who the poor/average performances are excused within minutes, so that by the time a good one comes, the narrative will not be ‘one good game’.
Nobody will sing Pogba’s praises unless United are great again. Regardless of his own personal form, he will be considered underwhelming so long as United are where they are.
Pogba has been ”very vocal” about going to Madrid? Quotes please @jamesjimmybyrondeanFor a player that has been very vocal about going to Madrid, If he's staying my guess is because Madrid or Juve can't cough his price tag out.
He's one of the worst posters on this forum. Muted a long time ago.Fergiesarmy1 has really embarrassed himself in this thread, to the point where, if you were a newbie, I’m sure the mods would be circling. For someone who is likely a grumpy old man in reality, all retorts haven’t been above primary school playground level.
"I want a new challenge", his love story with Zidane, his brother wouldn't shut up about it. Basically it's very obvious that he wants to leave to Madrid. There's no doubt about it.Pogba has been ”very vocal” about going to Madrid? Quotes please @jamesjimmybyrondean
Hahha!"I want a new challenge", his love story with Zidane, his brother wouldn't shut up about it. Basically it's very obvious that he wants to leave to Madrid. There's no doubt about it.
He is talking about ManUtd post SAF.Am I right in thinking Raiolas pretty much saying Pogba doesn't know what Oles system is or if he fits it, I noticed he d played a lot deeper at first under Ole.
Who cares move him on, wrong mentality and application in my opinion
It's not about Ole or Pogba but the club's businesses since SAF left.Am I right in thinking Raiolas pretty much saying Pogba doesn't know what Oles system is or if he fits it, I noticed he d played a lot deeper at first under Ole.
Who cares move him on, wrong mentality and application in my opinion
I don’t see anything ‘very vocal’ here."I want a new challenge", his love story with Zidane, his brother wouldn't shut up about it. Basically it's very obvious that he wants to leave to Madrid. There's no doubt about it.
I want him to leave because that's what's good for him. He can't use his prime years hoping that we will start challenging for titles. Nobody knows when Ole's rebuild will lead to titles or if it will lead to anything.
... But that is objective...? 13 goals is an objective stat. That’s how many goals he scored. That’s fact.Anyone that harps on about 13 goals isn’t being objective.
Wow."I want a new challenge", his love story with Zidane, his brother wouldn't shut up about it. Basically it's very obvious that he wants to leave to Madrid. There's no doubt about it.
I want him to leave because that's what's good for him. He can't use his prime years hoping that we will start challenging for titles. Nobody knows when Ole's rebuild will lead to titles or if it will lead to anything.
You're clutching straws, and you probably know it.The criticism is irrational. What else can you say when people are making up conspiracy theories on whether his injury is real or not?
And Pogba doesn't need to be judged to a higher standard when we're discussing who should be at United or not. Go ahead and use a different standard when discussing whether he had a good season or not based on his standards. When you use that higher standard to suggest he needs to leave, then it's just absurd.
Imagine if Messi scored 35 goals. That would be a sub par season for Messi standards. Would anyone suggest he needs to leave when he'll outscore 95% of strikers? No. That's absurd. When discussing who needs to leave, everyone should be judged at the same standard. The squad improves by raising the standard. You don't improve the squad by a lot by simply replacing the better players.
Let’s go and get some more then. Is that not the logical thing to do?The Pogba of Ole's first few games would be a massive asset, particularly in the #10 role.
However that Pogba has only reached those consistent heights for a 15-ish game streak is pretty poor and I'm sick to death of the circus and conversation around him.
No player is bigger than the club; Beckham was a much better player for the team and he was shipped out for less.
I'd like to see us become a team of stars again, rather than a team of supporting players to one superstar. It's tiresome, and leaves us exposed to his or his agent's whims.
I sincerely hope he returns in January and settles into the #10 role, as that could propel us into the top 4. History though suggests this is a pipe dream.
Where do these people come from? Not the aforementioned but the poster. Martial and Ddg have been awful for the past 12 months. Maguire, disappointing so far but allowances due to settling in. Rashy? No argument there but there are several players far more deserving than most of those listed. Really wonder what world some people live in. Celebrity followers, not United supporters, for sure.Only thing that can be argued is consistency with which he controls/dominates games. While states suggest he’s scoring or assisting 1 in every 2, somethings are judged by eye not stats. Like the fact that he’s by far our most gifted player, only Martial, Rashford, De Gea, Maguire, AWB deserve to play in the same team as him.
Is there? Ronaldo was high profile and still people love him despite moving to Real.There seems to be an insecurity/distrust with having high profile players.
Yeah very vocal was the wrong word but it has been obvious he wants to go to Madrid. Which is why Raiola statement Yesterday probably means the Madrid move won't happenI don
I don’t see anything ‘very vocal’ here.
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Haaland will demand the starting spot. If Ole won't give him that, he'll go to Dortmund or whatever team can guarantee him. It's just common sense.
I don’t see anything ‘very vocal’ here.
Best of all is here typed his "evidence" of him being very vocal and was then confident enough to continue with "There's no doubt about it."Wow.
Indeed it is.
Very, very vocal. Shocking.
This is Raiola's interview where he talked about his life, interests, how he works. Pogba part is very small in that interview.Pogba letting the fatman talk for him again
Maybe it's not so much the twisting of the interview that's the issue but the reasons behind it. Raiola is famous for his manipulation when dealing with clubs but as his job is to get the best deal for his clients (and himself) then maybe he can't be mocked for it although he does leave a sour taste in the mouth for almost everyone.This is Raiola's interview where he talked about his life, interests, how he works. Pogba part is very small in that interview.
Funny how people twist this interview.
What the culturist boarderline racist fans couldn’t adjust to him being the flag ship player for ‘their’ club.His brother, his agent and I’ll guarantee in 10 years time a lot of shit will come out about his period at United that will make pogbaistas ashamed.
Yeah go and tweet Jason Burt for the timing. I don't know why people post nonsense like timing of the interview, pogba part is nothing in that huge interview. It's just small part in it.Maybe it's not so much the twisting of the interview that's the issue but the reasons behind it. Raiola is famous for his manipulation when dealing with clubs but as his job is to get the best deal for his clients (and himself) then maybe he can't be mocked for it although he does leave a sour taste in the mouth for almost everyone.
I for one question the timing of it. To me it sounds like Pogba has been told his Madrid move is off and Raiola is now working on damage limitation by blaming the club for everything that's gone on before, trying to deflect any discretions made by himself and Pogba and there has been a few.
I can see why Raiolas words are music to the ears for a lot of United supporters but for some (myself) I can't trust anything that comes out of his fat toad of a mouth because everything he says is mostly for his own benefit and if lying and manipulation helps his cause then he has absolutely no problems going down that path.
You don't think Raiola is capable of manipulating an interview (and the timing) to suit his agenda? Sorry but I do. If I had of said, if anyone doesn't believe that the timing of this interview is too much of a coincidence is an idiot then you would have a point. But I didn't but you did by calling my post nonsense. Do you know 100% that it's nonsense? Do you have proof? Of course you don't and neither do I which is why I said I question the timing of the interview and not made a statement of fact.Yeah go and tweet Jason Burt for the timing. I don't know why people post nonsense like timing of the interview, pogba part is nothing in that huge interview. It's just small part in it.
Ok.You don't think Raiola is capable of manipulating an interview (and the timing) to suit his agenda? Sorry but I do. If I had of said, if anyone doesn't believe that the timing of this interview is too much of a coincidence is an idiot then you would have a point. But I didn't but you did by calling my post nonsense. Do you know 100% that it's nonsense? Do you have proof? Of course you don't and neither do I which is why I said I question the timing of the interview and not made a statement of fact.
Great argument. I actually expected your reply to be, yeah OK so it was a little shorter than I thought.
Yeah ok.Great argument. I actually expected your reply to be, yeah OK so it was a little shorter than I thought.
That's betterYeah ok.