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It's not doom and gloom but harsh reality! Agree with everything in the OP.yay, another doom and gloom thread. Awesome. Exactly what we need, more pessimism.
It's not doom and gloom but harsh reality! Agree with everything in the OP.yay, another doom and gloom thread. Awesome. Exactly what we need, more pessimism.
You're onto something here, but I'd say ten windows rather than five.We need to let Ole have at least five transfer windows to build his own team. It's a long term project. Rome wasn't built in a day. He needs time to clear out the deadwood. How can we judge when these aren't his players?
I'm looking forward to the season. Mostly because it's shit without football. We've signed Wan-Bissaka.
Hopefully we'll get top four and be able to play in the CL
I can see us really climbing the table next season
Nonsense, the players are all still so young. Lingard won't reach his peak until 2043.We need to at least give the boys the chance to impress the gaffer ffs can't judge this lot until summer 2021 there's ways to do things calmly
Can't wait.. I mean I can! I have a sneaky feeling that jones et al will surprise us too!!Nonsense, the players are all still so young. Lingard won't reach his peak until 2043.
The ultimate example of why the cafe is a joke these days..I really wish that meant that we were all singing Money for Nothing and the players for free.
But no.
We have effectively bought one first team player for £50m in Wan Bassaka. I would definitely take that. But everyone knows that on its own is not going to make much difference to United's position.
Right now Solskjaer has said we are "working on a case or two" transfer wise. ONE OR TWO??!! That is just not good enough.
And he says: "It's a long-term and it's a short-term project. You cannot just think three years down the line, so we've got short-term goals as well."
It's short term that is the issue. I do hope that this is not an early sign that we are again going to have a poor transfer window, and that, oh it will be okay in another year or two.
Even in the most positive scenario, and we brought in Bruno Fernandez and Maguire (I'd prefer Diop) that is not going to cut the mustard.
Right now we have Pogba's agent saying he wants another challenge. So i would hope we are doing more than a couple more deals. Bruno Fernandez CANNOT be our replacement for Pogba. Pogba needs replaced.
And while most fans would love the idea of Pogba at his best and Fernandez in midfield, that is not going to happen. If the Frenchman stays, he will bring us down, as he did at the end of last season.
But this Fernandez idea has gone on so long, it smacks of him going somewhere else .. while Spurs snap up the impressive Ndombele and City quietly snap up Rodri.
It is UNITED that need the midfield quality... desperately. And have done for years, hence our over-reliance on Pogba. But still we are dragging our heels.
Then there is Lukaku... if he goes, there has GOT to be a replacement. So 'looking at a couple of more deals'? Surely not. SURELY not.
Right now we have a replacement for Valencia but none for Fellaini or Herrera. And we have GOT to be looking at replacing Pogba and Lukaku now.
But the whole feel from the club right now is one of desperation. Signing up Andreas Perreira to 2022 smacks of standing still (at best). What are our coaching staff seeing in him that we haven't seen. He is not good enough.
Add that to the idea that McTominay is the future...well again what are they seeing? Yes he is improving but does anyone in the Premier League even below us covet him? I look at him and see Tom Cleverley.
And while I am a Mata fan, he has the finest football brain in our squad - even I agree that giving him a two year deal with an option of a third smacks of utter desperation.
While young Tielemans, the kind of player we really need, is likely to become a Leicester player for a mere £40m, we go chasing the untried and untested Longstaff from Newcastle.
So where are we as we head off to Australia to start our pre-season? In a worse position in squad terms than last pre-season. And you know what Mourinho's response was to the last pre-season.
Fans like....you?Good post OP.
I would call the situation laughable & say we deserve this but I’d be called a ‘plastic’ & get 2 points for Quality Control.
We are a joke of a club currently & there are fans that are actively welcoming our demise with some of the things they’re pleased are happening but even Rooney gets a hard time on here so. . . Football Bloody ‘ell.
Hopefully as expectations are so low a 7th place finish will feel better than it sounds now.
I’m actually pleased this is happening. A chance for the Anti-Pogba brigade to get what they deserve.
We are not going to be a better side when our midfield still includes Matic & Fred.
Fernandes is not a better player & we won’t be using the funds from this transfer as an addition to funds we should already be spending.
Owned.Fans like....you?
I'm looking forward to the season. Mostly because it's shit without football. We've signed Wan-Bissaka.
Hopefully we'll get top four and be able to play in the CL
I can see us really climbing the table next season
Exactly this..! We were garbage for more than three quarters of last season. What makes people think we'll suddenly turn it around with mostly the same players? Apart from that purple patch of 9 games when Ole took charge we were terrible for the rest of the season picking up only 41 points out of 87 over the other 29 games. Even during that 9 game spell we played poorly but scraped some wins. How is one pre-season with Ole going to dramatically turn around that kind of form?We still have 90% of the players we had last season. The same players who didn't give a damn. Why should they be any different in the new season. They were happy enough to lie down and lose to Cardiff in the final game at OT ffs. What can Ole say to them that he hasn't said before? Without a massive clearout I'm afraid we're doomed for many seasons to come.
AbsolutelyI won't read all of that because I'm sure it's full of hysterical nonsense.
Mate he’s resigned half the deadwood, how is that not on him?We need to let Ole have at least five transfer windows to build his own team. It's a long term project. Rome wasn't built in a day. He needs time to clear out the deadwood. How can we judge when these aren't his players?
Absolutely agree with this bit! He said the exact same thing in December, then May comes along and he’s the big man wielding the axe, “I’m going to be a success here but some won’t be here for the ride.”The most worrying thing for me is OGS comments suggesting that everyone starts with a clean slate.
Madness
Should Rojo start with a clean slate? No. Just get rid.
Same can be said for Darmian, Jones, Matic, Lingard, Sanchez
I’m less bothered about Lukaku going. He’s a donkey.
Not too bothered by Pogba leaving. And why can’t we replace Pogba with Fernandez. That actually seems like good business to me. Hopefully a more consistent player albeit with a lower ceiling.
Agree it’s madness re Tielemans. We should be all over him. More so for the suggested 40m