Statements like these are just daft.
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Appreciate the stats but should also add that playing for Brentford in the pl compared to Napoli in Serie A will have an effect on those xg numbers presumably.
I like both players and would be happy with either next year.
I thought he was brilliant last season would have thought we would look at him this summer. He can cause havoc and looks like a bit of a tool.
True but even when he was having his best goalscoring season while playing for the best attack in the Championship he was returning at a lower rate from open play than players like Jota, Scamacca, Nkunku, Osimhen, Dembele, Mertens, Ekitike, Moreno and many others managed in tougher leagues last season, let alone the obviously elite strikers.
Which isn't to say I don't like him as a player generally. But given I think our frontline needs a goal threat added rather than someone with a more rounded game, I think there are better fits for us than Toney.
Should he get a spot for the World Cup if his form continues? He's comfortably ahead of the likes of Bamford, Watkins and Calvert-Lewin, so I guess it would likely be between him and Abraham as a back-up to Kane.
He reminds me a bit of Drogba in the way the strikes the ball (like his free-kick vs. Leeds), and he has a similar physique as well - very strong, but still lean and athletic.
He reminds me a bit of Drogba in the way the strikes the ball (like his free-kick vs. Leeds), and he has a similar physique as well - very strong, but still lean and athletic.
feck Bentford.
damn still got a few years. thanks
I actually think the opposite in terms of needing a goal threat. I think we take the all round better footballer and he will score while playing up top with Antony, Sancho etc Also seems like a fighter which I would love in a center forward. Imagine a front three of Antony, Toney and Rashford. All different threats and would give defenders a huge headache.
Agreed …takes all sorts on here
I think it depends on what DCL does when he gets back from injury, the form of Rashford and the form of Tammy. We know Southgate likes consistency in his squads. I think he will get a chance though in the next international break.
Unless Tammy has a stinker between now and the WC, he's as good as on the plane I think. I don't think DCL will do enough, or have enough time to. Toney is an interesting one to follow. Did we take 3 strikers to the euros? It was Kane, DCL and a bunch of wide forwards wasn't it?
Very good player, think he’d struggle at a big club though. If we’re going after a striker next summer, its got to be Leao from Milan. Kid is the real deal. Can play on the wing too but I feel like he is best as a forward and would fit in really well with they way ETH wants to seemingly play.
I hope not too but I think he will have 10 games or so to show if he's ready and if he gets 5+ goals with good performances I think he has a decent chance of making it just because he's been around the squad before.
Yep, DCL and Kane were the only out and out strikers.
Amazing post!
I'm channelling my inner Ivan Toney.
No doubt we’ll sign Andy Carroll as back up!!
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Please!!!
Yeah, wouldn't mind that.
Reliable ?
We must get him before Chelsea.
Peterborough are my second team so watched him a lot during his time there. I’d love this to happen, fantastic player.
Yes please. ETH loves a mobile target man. Toney is a good fit for us.
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Yeah I think this too. We'll both be after him and it's us or them.
Nobody outside of the PL will pay what it takes. And City, Arsenal and Liverpool don't need a striker.
I'm convinced he is ready to step up to the big time
i want him too but I’m worried that he scored too much penalties last year.
What’s his assets that you rate at the moment?
With Ronaldo on the way out in January too, perhaps?
Him or Osimhen should be the two targets. Osimhen is the better player and has more potential but his availability isn't great.
Hes at the right club with the right cock of a manager .
Tony! Toni! Toné! is an actual band, so close enough
beat me to it…..!!
Great music taste
Does he have a release clause? I know there's always a calculation/trade-off with negotiating these contracts whereby release clause is inserted on condition that the player takes lower basic wage, but if you're a player confident enough in their own ability at a club with a ceiling (barring Leicester style miracle/synchronicity of elements), I'd be pushing for a 45-50m clause for a club either currently in the Champions League at time of enquiry or amongst the recent-historical Big-4, at the cost of 10-15k less a week for 1 season...
For whatever reason Premier League players (and their agents) seem to push for this less frequently, although there are obvious exceptions (I think Kante specifically had one, hence the fairly low sale price immediately following LC's PL win)
For whatever reason Premier League players (and their agents) seem to push for this less frequently, although there are obvious exceptions (I think Kante specifically had one, hence the fairly low sale price immediately following LC's PL win)
Yes it would have been better if he’d missed a few in all honesty. Showed a human side.
Really not convinced that Osimhen is the better player. Sure he has bundles of energy, but he’s really not that great on the ball.
I’d rather Toney
Yeah his alround play is terrific. I think he is ready
Nah, Osimhen has much higher potential. If one of them is going to turn out to be a legitimately elite striker it's him. Unfortunately he comes with a price-tag to match. But it moreso depends on what we want our CF's role to be, really.
If we want our CF to be a mobile target man with good hold up play, good link up play and the ability to get on the ball and bring others into the game well then someone like Toney fits. But at the cost of substantially less direct goal threat.
If we want our CF to be a fast, physical, hard-working goal-threat who acts as a focal point for others to create for then someone like Osimhen fits. But you can't expect him to be dropping deep and bringing others into play.
As much as the quality of the player, it's about what fits the team best. Personally I think with the likes of Antony, Sancho, Eriksen and Bruno in the side our team in particular is missing that central, defence-harrying goalscorer they can create for more than a Toney-style player who would be better at bringing them into play. But opinions may differ and in reality they'd both improve us quite a lot.