Jamal Khashoggi Murder | Ordered Directly by MBS

[PedroMendez]

It would also make them more insular and potentially stop any reforms and become an Uber well funded (literally) state version of Isis... So just depends what we want / need in the west as well

there are certainly downsides to that. I don't think the character of the regime would change, but the US would lose its influence on the decisionmaking process of the Saudi government. I am also not advocating for what I proposed. I just think that especially the US could do things, that are rather easy, cheep and limited in scope, that would hurt the saudi monarchy a lot more than people realize.
Access to western countries is extremely important for many foreign elites and its something that can be leveraged against them.

 

[Ramshock]

Why the feck do states think they can do these things without anyone noticing?

 

[VorZakone]

Why the feck do states think they can do these things without anyone noticing?

They don't think that. They straight up just don't care.

 

[shamans]

The Saudi government investment fund owns a big chunk of Uber (and Tesla) and lots of the worlds solar farms... Basically they are going to be difficult to boycot

Then why doesn't the west topple their government? There is no issue toppling regimes all across the middle east and Asia and some cases also instigating rebellion against democratic governments (as if not being democracy gave them any right in the first place)

But Saudi, which goes against all principles of the west and commits far more human rights crimes than anything close to others like Gaddafi, Saddam (remember they were individuals and this is a family), the west won't topple?

It's pretty obvious why. They have self interest. Saudi is nothing but a proxy country and a middle eastern airbase for western nations. We will forever hear about these "Evil Saudis" but we all know who is pulling the real strings here.

How come 99% of terrorism Saudi supports is in the Muslim world? Fact is this is a puppet government. We will not see end of human rights crimes because no one gives a feck.

 

[shamans]

Why the feck do states think they can do these things without anyone noticing?

And you are going to do what about it? Who can do anything about it?

 

[Ramshock]

cnuts the lot of them. The sooner the planet rejects fossil fuels the better

 

[2cents]

Then why doesn't the west topple their government?

Because a stable Saudi Arabia is the cornerstone of Western policy in the world's largest oil-producing region. Instability in the Persian Gulf threatens the supply of oil to much of the rest of the world, which would in turn lead to a massive global economic crisis. Every other element in the Western relationship with the Saudis pales in significance to this.

 

[2cents]

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"The kingdom confirms its categorical rejection of any threats and attempts to harm it by threatening to impose economic sanctions or the exercise of political pressure," the official added without elaborating.

 

[shamans]

cnuts the lot of them. The sooner the planet rejects fossil fuels the better

The lot of them includes western leaders who have constantly backed every Saudi

 

[Kaos]

It would also make them more insular and potentially stop any reforms and become an Uber well funded (literally) state version of Isis... So just depends what we want / need in the west as well

They’re already the biggest state funders of Islamist terrorism globally and are responsible for propagating the Wahabist doctrine that serves as the ideological backbone to almost all Islamic terrorists. They enjoy this impunity on account of their diplomatic and economic relationship with the west.

Saudi wouldn’t be sustainable if it were isolated and boycotted. They wouldn’t last a minute left to their own devices (their military know how is diabolical in spite of their weaponry, just see the Yemen conflict) and with their economy relying almost exclusively on oil exports they’d be completely fecked. This isn’t Iran we’re talking about.

If they were isolated maybe then they’d wise up and join the 21st century. Because encouraging them to adopt token reforms to shut the world up while they carry on with their barbarism is not a sustainable path to progress in itself.

 

[Red Dreams]

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...bbying-arms-deals_us_5bc20a93e4b040bb4e82b65a

Saudi Arabia Wants Trump And Congress To Forget Jamal Khashoggi. Here’s Its Likely Playbook.

 

[Red Defence]

France, Germany and U.K. issue a joint statement to Saudi authorities demanding a credible investigation into the events surrounding Jamal Khashoggi’s disappearance and - if relevant - for those involved to be held to account.

https://news.sky.com/story/saudi-ar...of-sanctions-over-missing-journalist-11525835

 

[Raoul]

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[Red Dreams]

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...atens-retaliation_us_5bc34ec2e4b040bb4e832b03

Saudi Arabia Rejects Trump Comments, Threatens Retaliation For Any Punishment

Guess who will fold.

 

[utdalltheway]

Still waiting for the cctv footage of Khashoggi exiting the consulate.

The Saudis just don’t care though; knowing they can buy their friends and will wait till this all blows over.
Ffs, if they didn’t face censure after 9-11 then one murdered Saudi journalist is nothing.

 

[Red Defence]

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...atens-retaliation_us_5bc34ec2e4b040bb4e832b03

Saudi Arabia Rejects Trump Comments, Threatens Retaliation For Any Punishment

Guess who will fold.

The Cowardly one.

 

[2cents]

This is a really incredible, unprecedented statement in the Saudi-owned al-Arabiya. We are living in extraordinary times:

OPINION: US sanctions on Riyadh would mean Washington is stabbing itself
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/fea...would-mean-Washington-is-stabbing-itself.html

I read the Saudi statement in response to the American proposals regarding sanctions on Saudi Arabia. The information circulating within decision-making circles within the kingdom have gone beyond the rosy language used in the statement and discuss more than 30 potential measures to be taken against the imposition of sanctions on Riyadh. They present catastrophic scenarios that would hit the US economy much harder than Saudi Arabia’s economic climate.

If US sanctions are imposed on Saudi Arabia, we will be facing an economic disaster that would rock the entire world. Riyadh is the capital of its oil, and touching this would affect oil production before any other vital commodity. It would lead to Saudi Arabia's failure to commit to producing 7.5 million barrels. If the price of oil reaching $80 angered President Trump, no one should rule out the price jumping to $100, or $200, or even double that figure.

An oil barrel may be priced in a different currency, Chinese yuan, perhaps, instead of the dollar. And oil is the most important commodity traded by the dollar today.

All of this will throw the Middle East, the entire Muslim world, into the arms of Iran, which will become closer to Riyadh than Washington.

This is all when it comes to oil, but Saudi Arabia is not just about oil, it is a leader in the Muslim world with its standing and geographical importance. And perhaps trusted exchange of information between Riyadh and America and Western countries will be a thing of the past after it had contributed to the protection of millions of Westerners, as testified by senior Western officials themselves.

Imposing any type of sanctions on Saudi Arabia by the West will cause the kingdom to resort to other options, US President Donald Trump had said a few days ago, and that Russia and China are ready to fulfill Riyadh’s military needs among others. No one can deny that repercussions of these sanctions will include a Russian military base in Tabuk, northwest of Saudi Arabia, in the heated four corners of Syria, Israel, Lebanon and Iraq.

At a time where Hamas and Hezbollah have turned from enemies into friends, getting this close to Russia will lead to a closeness to Iran and maybe even a reconciliation with it.

It will not be strange that Riyadh would stop buying weapons from the US. Riyadh is the most important customer of US companies, as Saudi Arabia buys 10 percent of the total weapons that these US companies produce, and buys 85 percent from the US army which means what’s left for the rest of the world is only five percent; in addition to the end of Riyadh’s investments in the US government which reaches $800 billion.

The US will also be deprived of the Saudi market which is considered one of the top 20 economies in the world.

These are simple procedures that are part of over 30 others that Riyadh will implement directly, without flinching an eye if sanctions are imposed on it, according to Saudi sources who are close to the decision-makers.

The truth is that if Washington imposes sanctions on Riyadh, it will stab its own economy to death, even though it thinks that it is stabbing only Riyadh!

 

[The Firestarter]

This is a really incredible, unprecedented statement in the Saudi-owned al-Arabiya. We are living in extraordinary times:

OPINION: US sanctions on Riyadh would mean Washington is stabbing itself
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/fea...would-mean-Washington-is-stabbing-itself.html

I read the Saudi statement in response to the American proposals regarding sanctions on Saudi Arabia. The information circulating within decision-making circles within the kingdom have gone beyond the rosy language used in the statement and discuss more than 30 potential measures to be taken against the imposition of sanctions on Riyadh. They present catastrophic scenarios that would hit the US economy much harder than Saudi Arabia’s economic climate.

If US sanctions are imposed on Saudi Arabia, we will be facing an economic disaster that would rock the entire world. Riyadh is the capital of its oil, and touching this would affect oil production before any other vital commodity. It would lead to Saudi Arabia's failure to commit to producing 7.5 million barrels. If the price of oil reaching $80 angered President Trump, no one should rule out the price jumping to $100, or $200, or even double that figure.

An oil barrel may be priced in a different currency, Chinese yuan, perhaps, instead of the dollar. And oil is the most important commodity traded by the dollar today.

All of this will throw the Middle East, the entire Muslim world, into the arms of Iran, which will become closer to Riyadh than Washington.

This is all when it comes to oil, but Saudi Arabia is not just about oil, it is a leader in the Muslim world with its standing and geographical importance. And perhaps trusted exchange of information between Riyadh and America and Western countries will be a thing of the past after it had contributed to the protection of millions of Westerners, as testified by senior Western officials themselves.

Imposing any type of sanctions on Saudi Arabia by the West will cause the kingdom to resort to other options, US President Donald Trump had said a few days ago, and that Russia and China are ready to fulfill Riyadh’s military needs among others. No one can deny that repercussions of these sanctions will include a Russian military base in Tabuk, northwest of Saudi Arabia, in the heated four corners of Syria, Israel, Lebanon and Iraq.

At a time where Hamas and Hezbollah have turned from enemies into friends, getting this close to Russia will lead to a closeness to Iran and maybe even a reconciliation with it.

It will not be strange that Riyadh would stop buying weapons from the US. Riyadh is the most important customer of US companies, as Saudi Arabia buys 10 percent of the total weapons that these US companies produce, and buys 85 percent from the US army which means what’s left for the rest of the world is only five percent; in addition to the end of Riyadh’s investments in the US government which reaches $800 billion.

The US will also be deprived of the Saudi market which is considered one of the top 20 economies in the world.

These are simple procedures that are part of over 30 others that Riyadh will implement directly, without flinching an eye if sanctions are imposed on it, according to Saudi sources who are close to the decision-makers.

The truth is that if Washington imposes sanctions on Riyadh, it will stab its own economy to death, even though it thinks that it is stabbing only Riyadh!

America can produce it's own oil. It would impact the Saudis far more than than the rest of the world. feck em.

 

[SalfordRed18]

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...atens-retaliation_us_5bc34ec2e4b040bb4e832b03

Saudi Arabia Rejects Trump Comments, Threatens Retaliation For Any Punishment

Guess who will fold.

Sounds like an admission of guilt to me.

 

[Red Dreams]

Sounds like an admission of guilt to me.

Yes.

But Trump will still kiss the Saudis' arse.

 

[Adisa]

This is a really incredible, unprecedented statement in the Saudi-owned al-Arabiya. We are living in extraordinary times:

OPINION: US sanctions on Riyadh would mean Washington is stabbing itself
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/fea...would-mean-Washington-is-stabbing-itself.html

I read the Saudi statement in response to the American proposals regarding sanctions on Saudi Arabia. The information circulating within decision-making circles within the kingdom have gone beyond the rosy language used in the statement and discuss more than 30 potential measures to be taken against the imposition of sanctions on Riyadh. They present catastrophic scenarios that would hit the US economy much harder than Saudi Arabia’s economic climate.

If US sanctions are imposed on Saudi Arabia, we will be facing an economic disaster that would rock the entire world. Riyadh is the capital of its oil, and touching this would affect oil production before any other vital commodity. It would lead to Saudi Arabia's failure to commit to producing 7.5 million barrels. If the price of oil reaching $80 angered President Trump, no one should rule out the price jumping to $100, or $200, or even double that figure.

An oil barrel may be priced in a different currency, Chinese yuan, perhaps, instead of the dollar. And oil is the most important commodity traded by the dollar today.

All of this will throw the Middle East, the entire Muslim world, into the arms of Iran, which will become closer to Riyadh than Washington.

This is all when it comes to oil, but Saudi Arabia is not just about oil, it is a leader in the Muslim world with its standing and geographical importance. And perhaps trusted exchange of information between Riyadh and America and Western countries will be a thing of the past after it had contributed to the protection of millions of Westerners, as testified by senior Western officials themselves.

Imposing any type of sanctions on Saudi Arabia by the West will cause the kingdom to resort to other options, US President Donald Trump had said a few days ago, and that Russia and China are ready to fulfill Riyadh’s military needs among others. No one can deny that repercussions of these sanctions will include a Russian military base in Tabuk, northwest of Saudi Arabia, in the heated four corners of Syria, Israel, Lebanon and Iraq.

At a time where Hamas and Hezbollah have turned from enemies into friends, getting this close to Russia will lead to a closeness to Iran and maybe even a reconciliation with it.

It will not be strange that Riyadh would stop buying weapons from the US. Riyadh is the most important customer of US companies, as Saudi Arabia buys 10 percent of the total weapons that these US companies produce, and buys 85 percent from the US army which means what’s left for the rest of the world is only five percent; in addition to the end of Riyadh’s investments in the US government which reaches $800 billion.

The US will also be deprived of the Saudi market which is considered one of the top 20 economies in the world.

These are simple procedures that are part of over 30 others that Riyadh will implement directly, without flinching an eye if sanctions are imposed on it, according to Saudi sources who are close to the decision-makers.

The truth is that if Washington imposes sanctions on Riyadh, it will stab its own economy to death, even though it thinks that it is stabbing only Riyadh!

Been a while since I read so much shit.

 

[rotherham_red]

This is a really incredible, unprecedented statement in the Saudi-owned al-Arabiya. We are living in extraordinary times:

OPINION: US sanctions on Riyadh would mean Washington is stabbing itself
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/fea...would-mean-Washington-is-stabbing-itself.html

I read the Saudi statement in response to the American proposals regarding sanctions on Saudi Arabia. The information circulating within decision-making circles within the kingdom have gone beyond the rosy language used in the statement and discuss more than 30 potential measures to be taken against the imposition of sanctions on Riyadh. They present catastrophic scenarios that would hit the US economy much harder than Saudi Arabia’s economic climate.

If US sanctions are imposed on Saudi Arabia, we will be facing an economic disaster that would rock the entire world. Riyadh is the capital of its oil, and touching this would affect oil production before any other vital commodity. It would lead to Saudi Arabia's failure to commit to producing 7.5 million barrels. If the price of oil reaching $80 angered President Trump, no one should rule out the price jumping to $100, or $200, or even double that figure.

An oil barrel may be priced in a different currency, Chinese yuan, perhaps, instead of the dollar. And oil is the most important commodity traded by the dollar today.

All of this will throw the Middle East, the entire Muslim world, into the arms of Iran, which will become closer to Riyadh than Washington.

This is all when it comes to oil, but Saudi Arabia is not just about oil, it is a leader in the Muslim world with its standing and geographical importance. And perhaps trusted exchange of information between Riyadh and America and Western countries will be a thing of the past after it had contributed to the protection of millions of Westerners, as testified by senior Western officials themselves.

Imposing any type of sanctions on Saudi Arabia by the West will cause the kingdom to resort to other options, US President Donald Trump had said a few days ago, and that Russia and China are ready to fulfill Riyadh’s military needs among others. No one can deny that repercussions of these sanctions will include a Russian military base in Tabuk, northwest of Saudi Arabia, in the heated four corners of Syria, Israel, Lebanon and Iraq.

At a time where Hamas and Hezbollah have turned from enemies into friends, getting this close to Russia will lead to a closeness to Iran and maybe even a reconciliation with it.

It will not be strange that Riyadh would stop buying weapons from the US. Riyadh is the most important customer of US companies, as Saudi Arabia buys 10 percent of the total weapons that these US companies produce, and buys 85 percent from the US army which means what’s left for the rest of the world is only five percent; in addition to the end of Riyadh’s investments in the US government which reaches $800 billion.

The US will also be deprived of the Saudi market which is considered one of the top 20 economies in the world.

These are simple procedures that are part of over 30 others that Riyadh will implement directly, without flinching an eye if sanctions are imposed on it, according to Saudi sources who are close to the decision-makers.

The truth is that if Washington imposes sanctions on Riyadh, it will stab its own economy to death, even though it thinks that it is stabbing only Riyadh!

Wait, have I read that right? Are threatening to become friendly with Iran? As if anyone worth their salt will take that for anything more than the crock of shit that it is

 

[Silva]

This is a really incredible, unprecedented statement in the Saudi-owned al-Arabiya. We are living in extraordinary times:

OPINION: US sanctions on Riyadh would mean Washington is stabbing itself
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/fea...would-mean-Washington-is-stabbing-itself.html

I read the Saudi statement in response to the American proposals regarding sanctions on Saudi Arabia. The information circulating within decision-making circles within the kingdom have gone beyond the rosy language used in the statement and discuss more than 30 potential measures to be taken against the imposition of sanctions on Riyadh. They present catastrophic scenarios that would hit the US economy much harder than Saudi Arabia’s economic climate.

If US sanctions are imposed on Saudi Arabia, we will be facing an economic disaster that would rock the entire world. Riyadh is the capital of its oil, and touching this would affect oil production before any other vital commodity. It would lead to Saudi Arabia's failure to commit to producing 7.5 million barrels. If the price of oil reaching $80 angered President Trump, no one should rule out the price jumping to $100, or $200, or even double that figure.

An oil barrel may be priced in a different currency, Chinese yuan, perhaps, instead of the dollar. And oil is the most important commodity traded by the dollar today.

All of this will throw the Middle East, the entire Muslim world, into the arms of Iran, which will become closer to Riyadh than Washington.

This is all when it comes to oil, but Saudi Arabia is not just about oil, it is a leader in the Muslim world with its standing and geographical importance. And perhaps trusted exchange of information between Riyadh and America and Western countries will be a thing of the past after it had contributed to the protection of millions of Westerners, as testified by senior Western officials themselves.

Imposing any type of sanctions on Saudi Arabia by the West will cause the kingdom to resort to other options, US President Donald Trump had said a few days ago, and that Russia and China are ready to fulfill Riyadh’s military needs among others. No one can deny that repercussions of these sanctions will include a Russian military base in Tabuk, northwest of Saudi Arabia, in the heated four corners of Syria, Israel, Lebanon and Iraq.

At a time where Hamas and Hezbollah have turned from enemies into friends, getting this close to Russia will lead to a closeness to Iran and maybe even a reconciliation with it.

It will not be strange that Riyadh would stop buying weapons from the US. Riyadh is the most important customer of US companies, as Saudi Arabia buys 10 percent of the total weapons that these US companies produce, and buys 85 percent from the US army which means what’s left for the rest of the world is only five percent; in addition to the end of Riyadh’s investments in the US government which reaches $800 billion.

The US will also be deprived of the Saudi market which is considered one of the top 20 economies in the world.

These are simple procedures that are part of over 30 others that Riyadh will implement directly, without flinching an eye if sanctions are imposed on it, according to Saudi sources who are close to the decision-makers.

The truth is that if Washington imposes sanctions on Riyadh, it will stab its own economy to death, even though it thinks that it is stabbing only Riyadh!

it's like every sentence is trying to outstupid the last

 

[The Firestarter]

They got caught red handed and act like spoiled brats about it.

 

[2cents]

From the Saudi Foreign Ministry today:

 

[Cheesy]

There's no doubt the West is heavily dependent on the Saudis when it comes to oil but by the same token they will also be well-aware that they're dependent on us for their own continuing status as such an important global power - any sanctions would hurt us badly but a severing of relations would be brutal to them as well considering how much money they make from their connections with countries like the US. They need to be told that in spite of their own power and importance they can't act recklessly without repercussions, repercussions which would almost certainly be lighter than for a less important nation guilty of a similar crime. Although again I suspect nothing will happen in the long-term since they were essentially responsible for 9/11 and got away with it.

 

[The Firestarter]

From the Saudi Foreign Ministry today:

Did they hire the isis guy for these or it was the same guy all along ?

 

[2cents]

Hard to over-emphasize how out of the ordinary all this is. For decades the Saudis have been among the most predictable, cautious, safely status quo-friendly states in the region. It's bizarre seeing them under the thumb of a power-crazed wild guy younger than me, and it's even more bizarre to see them so evidently spooked by the worldwide reaction to this. While it's still likely that everyone involved will find a way to climb down from this, I wouldn't be putting money on it the way things are going.

 

[Cloud7]

This is a really incredible, unprecedented statement in the Saudi-owned al-Arabiya. We are living in extraordinary times:

OPINION: US sanctions on Riyadh would mean Washington is stabbing itself
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/fea...would-mean-Washington-is-stabbing-itself.html

I read the Saudi statement in response to the American proposals regarding sanctions on Saudi Arabia. The information circulating within decision-making circles within the kingdom have gone beyond the rosy language used in the statement and discuss more than 30 potential measures to be taken against the imposition of sanctions on Riyadh. They present catastrophic scenarios that would hit the US economy much harder than Saudi Arabia’s economic climate.

If US sanctions are imposed on Saudi Arabia, we will be facing an economic disaster that would rock the entire world. Riyadh is the capital of its oil, and touching this would affect oil production before any other vital commodity. It would lead to Saudi Arabia's failure to commit to producing 7.5 million barrels. If the price of oil reaching $80 angered President Trump, no one should rule out the price jumping to $100, or $200, or even double that figure.

An oil barrel may be priced in a different currency, Chinese yuan, perhaps, instead of the dollar. And oil is the most important commodity traded by the dollar today.

All of this will throw the Middle East, the entire Muslim world, into the arms of Iran, which will become closer to Riyadh than Washington.

This is all when it comes to oil, but Saudi Arabia is not just about oil, it is a leader in the Muslim world with its standing and geographical importance. And perhaps trusted exchange of information between Riyadh and America and Western countries will be a thing of the past after it had contributed to the protection of millions of Westerners, as testified by senior Western officials themselves.

Imposing any type of sanctions on Saudi Arabia by the West will cause the kingdom to resort to other options, US President Donald Trump had said a few days ago, and that Russia and China are ready to fulfill Riyadh’s military needs among others. No one can deny that repercussions of these sanctions will include a Russian military base in Tabuk, northwest of Saudi Arabia, in the heated four corners of Syria, Israel, Lebanon and Iraq.

At a time where Hamas and Hezbollah have turned from enemies into friends, getting this close to Russia will lead to a closeness to Iran and maybe even a reconciliation with it.

It will not be strange that Riyadh would stop buying weapons from the US. Riyadh is the most important customer of US companies, as Saudi Arabia buys 10 percent of the total weapons that these US companies produce, and buys 85 percent from the US army which means what’s left for the rest of the world is only five percent; in addition to the end of Riyadh’s investments in the US government which reaches $800 billion.

The US will also be deprived of the Saudi market which is considered one of the top 20 economies in the world.

These are simple procedures that are part of over 30 others that Riyadh will implement directly, without flinching an eye if sanctions are imposed on it, according to Saudi sources who are close to the decision-makers.

The truth is that if Washington imposes sanctions on Riyadh, it will stab its own economy to death, even though it thinks that it is stabbing only Riyadh!

Now I know we all think that this will end with the western powers backing down, and most likely that is what will happen, but does anyone think that this kind of aggressive talk by the Saudis might rub Emperor Donald and his big ego the wrong way, and actually make him take action against them, or do you think he will just fall into line with them?

 

[antihenry]

Most likely nothing will come of it because a good relationship with the Saudis is much more important for the US than standing on principle over a dead journalist, both sides need each other. The most curious thing in all that are open threats through Saudi media about potential countermeasures against US interests, mentioning severing ties with the West and forming alliances with China, Russia and Iran. At this point it's obviously a bluff, but the mere fact of them openly challenging the Western powers shows how fragile current situation is.

 

[WR10]

Wait so let me get this straight. The states is wanting to punish a country that ‘killed’ one critic of the government? Is that all that’s going on? What about Assad that has been responsible for the death of 350,000 of his own people?

 

[Organic Potatoes]

Wait so let me get this straight. The states is wanting to punish a country that ‘killed’ one critic of the government? Is that all that’s going on? What about Assad that has been responsible for the death of 350,000 of his own people?

'What about him' indeed. As in... what does this have to do with him?

 

[Adisa]

Wait so let me get this straight. The states is wanting to punish a country that ‘killed’ one critic of the government? Is that all that’s going on? What about Assad that has been responsible for the death of 350,000 of his own people?

Assad is under sanctions by the US.

 

[MoskvaRed]

Wait so let me get this straight. The states is wanting to punish a country that ‘killed’ one critic of the government? Is that all that’s going on? What about Assad that has been responsible for the death of 350,000 of his own people?

I don’t think the US wants to do anything - if’s just the incident was so blatant (and occurred in the main city of another problematic US ally), that it can’t completely ignore it and has to issue a few verbal reproaches. I doubt anything will come of all this - there is simply too much invested in the US-Saudi special relationship.

But, changing the focus to what is really important for some on here - oil at $200 or even $400 a barrel - that’s plenty of money for our prospective new owners to strengthen the squad.

 

[Kaos]

Wait so let me get this straight. The states is wanting to punish a country that ‘killed’ one critic of the government? Is that all that’s going on? What about Assad that has been responsible for the death of 350,000 of his own people?

The difference is Assad isn’t championed as an ally of the West, and the US has constantly attempted to overthrow him pretty much since 2006.

Also why the quotation marks around ‘killed’? Are you insinuating this is some false flag?

 

[Irish Jet]

Wait so let me get this straight. The states is wanting to punish a country that ‘killed’ one critic of the government? Is that all that’s going on?

Erm, ever heard of Yemen?

 

[Silva]

what's an inverted comma kill? is it like when you grab someone's hand and use it to punch them to death, screaming "WHY ARE YOU KILLING YOURSELF YOU NERD" over and over again

 

[Solius]

From the Saudi Foreign Ministry today:

SEND HER VICTORIOUS, STEADFAST AND GLOOOOORIOUS.

 

[shamans]

I'm just thinking its also very possible they didn't do it and this is a ploy to expose MBS. Ah well, also very probable they did do it.

We literally know nothing to be fair. Everything we get is from news/tv/media and just the outcomes. I've given up on trying to figure this stuff out. Its a messed up world.

 

[nimic]

I'm just thinking its also very possible they didn't do it and this is a ploy to expose MBS. Ah well, also very probable they did do it.

We literally know nothing to be fair. Everything we get is from news/tv/media and just the outcomes. I've given up on trying to figure this stuff out. Its a messed up world.

It's possible to take this cynicism too far. It's obvious they did something. Otherwise they would have just posted footage of him leaving the embassy, which would be no problem considering they certainly have cameras everywhere in there. They either killed him, or kidnapped him.