It is getting embarrassing. Should be sold pronto, like January and it is not a joke. A relegation-ish team that is not us would probably pay a lot of money for him in January.
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Fraud. He knows his ball skills are garbage which is why he goes for daft flicks when he gets passed the ball in the pocket.
Touch the ball, use your "skill" to create yourself some space and actually be dangerous in the final third. Pathetic.
Touch the ball, use your "skill" to create yourself some space and actually be dangerous in the final third. Pathetic.
What's worse than his garbage ability on the ball is his poor intelligence on the ball too. It's not like he's making good decisions and his skills are letting him down - he's literally making daft decisions in every one of those clips and still combining it with amateur level skill.
Matic was very good in his first season under Jose to be fair. And was class at Chelsea. But he has lost it now.
I agree with your post though, and you could add Jones, Bailly, Andreas and Young to that list. Almost a 11 of players who are now barely PL material. Its mental. The job Ole has is extremly difficult
Weren't some Chelsea fans happy that they got rid of him?
He was good for a few months then ran out of steam.
I'm not including Jones because he has been decent for periods, just not enough of them given his time here.
Andreas is decent right now. Young has had periods where he's decent (LB a few years ago mainly) and was useful against Liverpool with our long pass and break strategy. I dont really like Young but its the truth.
I cannot say the same for Matic, Lingard, Rojo and Mata. Of all people Rojo might be the unluckiest one to be named on that list because he did have 1 good full season in Mourinho's first season when Bailly also had a good season.
Mata, Matic and Lingard have only managed a couple of good months in their United careers... Not even a full season. Thats the point. That even after all this time for most of them, they only had a short period where they looked like they might be decent players for us. The vast majority of the time they didnt look good enough to play a part in our team.
This.
Don't talk fecking rubbish, dislike him all the you need, but that's just shite.
Haha. That was peak Lingard to be fair.
he has shit the bed as a united player
Yep. If it had been me, I would have been affected easily as bad, too. Ferguson told Giggsy not to read the newspapers on Monday, but how do you protect someone’s confidence in 2019, with SoMe and all that?
I’m sure some people will have a bright idea like, can’t they just stay away from the internet, then? These people will be either above fifty (like me) or the samones that que up every day to spee the same exaggerated vitriol in public over a player they are disappointed in.
With no goals or assists in almost every game, how do players like Lingard command any sort of respect in the dressing room.
He should be kicked off to the fecking championship and the United page should share that whole 0.00012% message. He needs to called out where it will impact him the most.
He should be kicked off to the fecking championship and the United page should share that whole 0.00012% message. He needs to called out where it will impact him the most.
Confidence is on the floor at the moment. I think Andreas should start as the 10 at the moment because unlike Mata and Jesse these days he at least plays with some purpose.
My guess is he would look better playing in the right system for a bottom half team, as he did for us pressing high in that 4-2-4 type thing in the preseason. I used to think he'd be an interesting piece for a counter attacking team like Burnley, Palace (who really could use a mobile #10 which Lingard is in theory) or Newcastle but now I think he'd struggle in that sort of setup, might be better off for a team that presses a lot and isn't reliant on him to be the only creative type, like Brighton.
I do believe England caps and his age are enough to bring us back a surprisingly healthy fee. He should have been identified as not good enough by Mourinho or Ole and sold for 20M to some bottom half of the Prem team, that sort of fee could bring back a useful player from the Champo, or mid-table France, Germany or Spain.
Let's all praise him for a few days see if it improves his confidence. I'll start:
Jesse has a solid throw-in technique.
Jesse has a solid throw-in technique.
He's in absolutely wretched form. Surely he's not this bad as a player. Whatever happened to the messai lingod era
He's not a bad player,all said and done. Sure his off field social media antics annoy a certain audience,rarely been bothered myself, but he's hitting a real decline.
He was always a tidy confident player who could finish well but I do think,what we saw in 2016 and 2018, was as good as it gets with Jeese.
I think a move would do him and us the world of good. I dont think he's good enough to deal with this pressure and expectancy.
He was always a tidy confident player who could finish well but I do think,what we saw in 2016 and 2018, was as good as it gets with Jeese.
I think a move would do him and us the world of good. I dont think he's good enough to deal with this pressure and expectancy.
Fair point. How is Ole talking about a cultural reboot when this kind of incompetence is tolerated and awarded? What is the example set for Gomes as a start? It just shows how bad and no actual plan is set in place.
I'm starting to actively hate this guy, the same way I hated Depay and Schneiderlin when they were around.
0 goal, 0 assist, doing feck all on the pitch.
Future of ManUnited this lad.
Future of ManUnited this lad.
He has to be one of, if not our worst ever main starting lineup attacker in terms of output.
He has been mostly a main player since LVG second season and here's his great record :
15/16 : 6 goals in 40 matches.
16/17 : 5 goals in 42 matches.
17/18 : 13 goals in 48 matches.
18/19 : 5 goals in 36 matches.
19/20 : 0 goals in 10 matches currently.
That's what? 29 goals in 177 matches. Half of them were in one season.
Even Welbeck had 29 goals in 142 matches for us.
He's pretty much a sum up of everything wrong about current United. A god awful forward playing as a main starter regularly and has barely any output, with a big ego, clothing brand and tons of advertisements and deals thanks to that with nothing to show for on the pitch.
He has been mostly a main player since LVG second season and here's his great record :
15/16 : 6 goals in 40 matches.
16/17 : 5 goals in 42 matches.
17/18 : 13 goals in 48 matches.
18/19 : 5 goals in 36 matches.
19/20 : 0 goals in 10 matches currently.
That's what? 29 goals in 177 matches. Half of them were in one season.
Even Welbeck had 29 goals in 142 matches for us.
He's pretty much a sum up of everything wrong about current United. A god awful forward playing as a main starter regularly and has barely any output, with a big ego, clothing brand and tons of advertisements and deals thanks to that with nothing to show for on the pitch.
He is still an excellent player, he should be in his prime but has suffered since the world cup. He was one of the best England players in that competition. We need him back.
I don't think he was hiding this match like he had been in his last couple of starts.
I mean he was still absolutely terrible of course. But at least I saw him trying to get involved. And I guess him hitting the post was the closest we came to scoring aside from the pen. That's as positive as I can be about him right now.
I mean he was still absolutely terrible of course. But at least I saw him trying to get involved. And I guess him hitting the post was the closest we came to scoring aside from the pen. That's as positive as I can be about him right now.
Nope, i'm afraid it isn't.
If you think Lingard is an excellent player then please stop watching football, as you are absolutely clueless.
@GifLord Can you find the clip in the 2nd half, when AWB passed it first to him (flicked the ball with the outside) and went for a return pass but Lingard just booted the ball ?
Oh look, it's Sugar Puffs to enlighten us all. Nah sunshine, he's utter shite. Nothing to do with people 'disliking him', so get over your emotionally charged preconceived notions. People think he's a shit footballer - he is - and that is all.
He's a really bizarre lad. Made this ultra hilarious reference to Sugar Puffs once (no idea why but hey) and I think we should all refer to him as Sugar Puffs from now on. Seems apt, too.
WTFI know, right
As a player he infuriates me. Can't even do the basics right.
A wonderful example of believing what the TV pundits tell you, rather than watching with your own eyes.
The only thing positive he brings is a decent fitness level. For an attacking player i'd genuinely take hundreds of people over him.
I really hope this is a troll.
Mourinho played him alot.
Its painful. I'm stateside but went to the West Ham vs. United game last season at OT and Lingard was atrocious that day. He started on the right wing but played EVERYWHERE but right wing constantly bumping into Mata in the 10 role. The whole game I can't think of one good play he had in 90 minutes, and he constantly lost the ball as the West Ham players realized how easily they could dispossess him.
Brighton do not press a lot. more of a passing team like BHA were when Lingard played for them. He fitted in quite well then in the Pascal Groß position. I think Groß's crossing is better. Lingard is quicker though. Trossard is the Lingard-type replacement for Brighton.
Lingard's wages are too high for Brighton.
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if he does get a new contract there is something very sinister going on at the club, and no nicey nicey justifications from Ole will prove otherwise
I despise everything about him. Absolutely no redeeming qualities for me, not a single one.
My least favourite player we've ever had in my lifetime. A combination of being completely ineffective and very dislikeable.
My least favourite player we've ever had in my lifetime. A combination of being completely ineffective and very dislikeable.
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