It's usually the ones you most suspect.
Jimmy Savile and Operation Yewtree
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The Arthur Mullard one shocked me...this is bad though.
Jimmy Saville was always an odd guy...who knows if there is any truth in the allegations...it was quite shocking hearing one of Saville's producers saying he knew Saville shared a bed with a 12 year old.
It doesn't seem to be have mentioned so far but rumours have being doing the rounds for years in Leeds of odd goings on with Saville when he worked as a porter at LGI in the city.
It doesn't seem to be have mentioned so far but rumours have being doing the rounds for years in Leeds of odd goings on with Saville when he worked as a porter at LGI in the city.
Was he knighted?
Yes, because of all his charity work.
It does raise the interesting question about whether ruining the lives of, say 12 girls, is balanced out or not by all the lives he touched with his charity and broadcasting work.
I don't know....just wondering aloud. Humans are such complex and weird animals. He was driven to do all of this good.....far more so than any of us, yet he has allegedly committed these terrible crimes.
I don't know....just wondering aloud. Humans are such complex and weird animals. He was driven to do all of this good.....far more so than any of us, yet he has allegedly committed these terrible crimes.
If this is proven true then it should be stripped immediately.
No, not by a long long long way. If these stories were true then it could be argued that the only reason he was doing the charity work for children hospitals and children's TV shows was to put himself in a powerful position from which he could carry out his abuse. IMO the fact he was taking praise for helping children while destroying others makes it worse.
Do you believe in rehabilitation Irwin?
Yeah.
So if JS had molested these girls, do you think he can have paid his debt to society with his charitable work? Perhaps he did it out of guilt.
Don't know myself, I mean his OBE and knighthood are for his charity work....and whatever comes out, he still did all of that and it is something to be admired. I don't think we can ever know his motivations for doing it all though. You say he did it for grooming, somebody else might say he did it out of guilt.
Don't know myself, I mean his OBE and knighthood are for his charity work....and whatever comes out, he still did all of that and it is something to be admired. I don't think we can ever know his motivations for doing it all though. You say he did it for grooming, somebody else might say he did it out of guilt.
My definition of rehabilitation would mean making some kind of peace for the acts you have committed. Apologize sincerely for them and seek to make recompense with those you harmed.
I would never have had you down as an optimistic person Grinner but you are stretching here to see the good in what he did in his life. He never made it up to those he harmed and that is the key.
All allegedly of course.
I would never have had you down as an optimistic person Grinner but you are stretching here to see the good in what he did in his life. He never made it up to those he harmed and that is the key.
All allegedly of course.
I agree that true rehabilitation includes addressing the victim.
He always seemed a bit creepy and these latest revelations aren't decreasing that impression. I'm guessing that things won't look better for him after Wednesday's documentary. Not looking good for the BBC pulling their own investigation earlier this year either.
As there can never be any Court case now, he'll never be convicted (or cleared) of anything.
However, the documentary will tarnish his reputation irrevocably, I would assume - no smoke without fire, etc.
Just so people know what a massive egomaniac this man was, he was buried in an upright coffin facing the sea (at his request) after a funeral which involved a sort of lying-in-state and presumably had already designed this hideous thing :
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/sir-jimmy-savile-headstone-unveiled-1334269
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/sir-jimmy-savile-headstone-unveiled-1334269
Paul Gambaccini has been speaking about it too :
http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news...-sex-life-claims-dj-paul-gambaccini-1-4979182
http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news...-sex-life-claims-dj-paul-gambaccini-1-4979182
Parallels with Lance Armstrong here. A **** of personality created by charity, that works to protects them from the criticism and accusation, to a point. Pair of psychopaths, probably.
I hadn't heard about that. What the feck? Did they start discovering things that some higher up decided would be best "left alone"?
Whatever you feel about Lance Armstrong's doping, it in no way compares to a paedophile child molester.
It is worth remembering that the charity work Saville did also made him an extremely wealthy man.
My mum ran physically and mentally handicapped day centres in the 70's and was opening a new one not 20 minutes from JS's Leeds home...he was approched to perform a 10 minute opening ceremony which he agreed to but then demanded a huge fee which the local authority simply could not afford so his appearance was cancelled.
At the time the cast from a very popular TV series were appearing at the local theatre and were also approached to open the centre...they agreed and not only performed the short ceremony without asking for a penny but stayed all day with the patients and kept in touch with my mum for many years until she retired.
The thought of any abuse Saville may have carried out being somehow excused by the fact he raised money for charity is repulsive. From what I know there will be more revelations to come.
My mum ran physically and mentally handicapped day centres in the 70's and was opening a new one not 20 minutes from JS's Leeds home...he was approched to perform a 10 minute opening ceremony which he agreed to but then demanded a huge fee which the local authority simply could not afford so his appearance was cancelled.
At the time the cast from a very popular TV series were appearing at the local theatre and were also approached to open the centre...they agreed and not only performed the short ceremony without asking for a penny but stayed all day with the patients and kept in touch with my mum for many years until she retired.
The thought of any abuse Saville may have carried out being somehow excused by the fact he raised money for charity is repulsive. From what I know there will be more revelations to come.
are you really saying that a pro cyclist, that used drugs to enhance his performance, is the same has an alleged sexual predator, who had a liking for young girls.
Sorry but I think your way off the mark.
Aye, he used to ride round in a Rolls Royce didn't he?
He's obviously not comparing the offences, just the fact that they were both protected from criticism to an extent because of their charity work, which is a valid observation.
Thank you.
It is really quite unbelievable that people knew or suspected it at the time & nothing was done about it.
Honestly, what a twat Gambaccini and others are that they & others knew what was going on but did nothing & now suddenly after his death they are starting with this.
Where were you 30 years ago then?
Fair point , I will withdraw my statement.
That was a strange one all right. He used to sit outside Highbury & Islington tube station every day on a stool chatting to anyone who'd listen.
He couldn't possibly look any more like a molester.
Michael Jackson?
I mean the guy had a freaking funfair called Neverland and a pet monkey.
The only real surprise is that he liked girls and not boys by the look of him.
How did I miss these tell-tale signs?
You were just flattered he was showing you some attention.
Yep, that monkey was the business.
It does beg the question, doesn't it? He seems to be saying they were all scared of Savile as he had tremendous influence. However, as Savile didn't socialise with the other radio and TV presenters anyway, they didn't get involved.
Guilty till proven innocent. Burn the corpse!
Salving the collective conscious of the beeb if you ask me.
the Papa John Phillips one (from the mamas and papas) is such a weird horrible one...if its true.
I think you'll find that some of 'these people' came forward many years ago. He was interviewd by detectives back in 2007 as that first article states.
What an unfortunate combination. Glitter, Savile, youngsters. 
It begs the question if there was some kind of 'sympathy' between the two men.