Redlambs
Creator of the Caftards comics
Not really, there's many factors.Stunning. It's shocking how much crap people will put up with in relationships.
It's still very much a misunderstood area.
Not really, there's many factors.Stunning. It's shocking how much crap people will put up with in relationships.
She's a hottie... white textStunning. It's shocking how much crap people will put up with in relationships.
I can't believe you said that... Before meShe's a hottie... white text
Understand about the counselling being private.Yes I would. Counseling is supposed to be a private place for opening up
She's a hottie...
The craziest ones always are...I can't believe you said that...
Was recorded on Amber Heard's phone with their consent.
You do know rules and laws aren't infallible right? That situations change, the world changes?If they both consent to it being made public then that's fine. Do they though?
Does it really matter though? If someone's seedy conversation was leaked during the MeToo thing I doubt many would be defending the person committing the act, or their right to privacy.If they both consent to it being made public then that's fine. Do they though?
And lose my license? feck no.Maybe someone got tired of him being blamed in the wrong ?
I know you are not allowed to do it by law but if you are a therapist in a case where the wrong party is having their life ruined and the guilty party is benefitting wouldn't you leak the truth ?
Not that I'm saying this is the case here
Does it really matter though? If someone's seedy conversation was leaked during the MeToo thing I doubt many would be defending the person committing the act, or their right to privacy.
Meh, I'm not gonna lose any sleep over it.So it's alright to break the law if there is a good outcome?
That's not how it works.
Not going to think too hard about it either, eh?Meh, I'm not gonna lose any sleep over it.
How much thought do you really need to come to the conclusion that domestic violence is wrong?Not going to think too hard about it either, eh?
Sure you can go the strawman route if you want.How much thought do you really need to come to the conclusion that domestic violence is wrong?
It was just a Prank bro! (Paraphrasing her)Oh and she shat on his bed. Who the feck does that?
Stepping away from the circumstances at hand to make a broader point re this question...yes, obviously, it can be. Breaking the law is not by default immoral. I don’t think Anyone sane today would say helping slaves escape or sheltering Jews in the 40s was “not alright” however many laws were broken in doing so.So it's alright to break the law if there is a good outcome?
I'm not going to put you on the spot and ask if you think it should still be the case that you have to protect certain people. Nor should you be the judge in that way either.And lose my license? feck no.
Stepping away from the circumstances at hand to make a broader point re this question...yes, obviously, it can be. Breaking the law is not by default immoral. I don’t think Anyone sane today would say helping slaves escape or sheltering Jews in the 40s was “not alright” however many laws were broken in doing so.
there is a reason we developed equity, for example.
there are also cases where breaking the law is not ok. And a lot of systems and procedures that are important can break down without confidentiality...it doesn’t exactly lead to full disclosure. Back to this particular case given the fact that it sounds like she was lying about who was the abuser here the system has rather perversely got to the truth.
Alright, back to my original question then. Let's say a conversation is leaked exposing a leading male actor of being a dirty git towards a vulnerable aspiring actress. Would your first thought be that the guy has been dealt with unfairly by having that put out there?Sure you can go the strawman route if you want.
Anything else?
Good post.Stepping away from the circumstances at hand to make a broader point re this question...yes, obviously, it can be. Breaking the law is not by default immoral. I don’t think Anyone sane today would say helping slaves escape or sheltering Jews in the 40s was “not alright” however many laws were broken in doing so.
there is a reason we developed equity, for example.
there are also cases where breaking the law is not ok. And a lot of systems and procedures that are important can break down without confidentiality...it doesn’t exactly lead to full disclosure. Back to this particular case given the fact that it sounds like she was lying about who was the abuser here the system has rather perversely got to the truth.
No, it's about a specific area, not "anything". And are you likely to tell your doctor you've broken the law?No i understand all that. The point is if you decide that counseling isn't a protected arena for opening up and that anything you can say can be made public then it's not going to be a good outcome, is it? Same kind of think with attorney-client privilege and confidentiality with your doctor.
No, it's about a specific area, not "anything". And are you likely to tell your doctor you've broken the law?
And that all being said, why are you on here telling all of us that it should be private? Even if you believe that, it's out there now. And surely we should turn it into a positive by talking about the issues.
And I'm saying it's easy to hide behind laws, but a bit harder to see that they are fallible and open to change and we shouldn't all be robots just assuming that it's always correct.I said that anything talked about in counseling that is protected by law should remain private if the people involved so wish. Pretty simple. I'm sure there are laws governing certain types of admissions that have to be reported but I don't think any of this fits that but could be wrong on that since I'm not a counselor or lawyer.
Woah woah, let's not go that far.A lot of things have already been said, but can we all agree that she needs to lose her role in the Aquaman series after this?
And I'm saying it's easy to hide behind laws, but a bit harder to see that they are fallible and open to change and we shouldn't all be robots just assuming that it's always correct.
To call it pretty simple is, well, simple. But I guess right and wrong only matters when it's written down in some ledger somewhere.
Yes I can.Can you not fecking read or something?
Very fair points.Leaking audio of someone's counselling session without their consent is generally very wrong.
However, even leaving aside how unfair the situation Depp found himself in may also have been, the fact is that Heard is someone who has positioned herself as an outspoken, high-profile campaigner against domestic violence, with the op-ed at the centre of this legal dispute having outlined specific political objectives to help combat such abuses while also railing against her industry for protecting abusers, without any reference at all to her own behavior.
I think there's a strong argument that exposing the hypocrisy of a high-profile public figure & advocate on an issue like this is in the public interest, which rather changes the dynamic in terms of the right or wrongs of publishing the audio.
The second part of my post was touching on that concern, yeah. I am a lawyer so I get what you mean. Bad process to a good outcome here imo.No i understand all that. The point is if you decide that counseling isn't a protected arena for opening up and that anything you can say can be made public then it's not going to be a good outcome, is it? Same kind of think with attorney-client privilege and confidentiality with your doctor.
thoughtful postLeaking audio of someone's counselling session without their consent is generally very wrong.
However, even leaving aside how unfair the situation Depp found himself in may also have been, the fact is that Heard is someone who has positioned herself as an outspoken, high-profile campaigner against domestic violence, with the op-ed at the centre of this legal dispute having outlined specific political objectives to help combat such abuses while also railing against her industry for protecting abusers, without any reference at all to her own behavior.
I think there's a strong argument that exposing the hypocrisy of a high-profile public figure & advocate on an issue like this is in the public interest, which rather changes the dynamic in terms of the right or wrongs of publishing the audio.
Someone did. What happens if it turns out they were smacking chunks out of each other? Ban them from all movies except ones where they have to star together.Woah woah, let's not go that far.
I'm guessing you've started a petition somewhere though?
It's never worthwhile thinking about the twitter mob.The second part of my post was touching on that concern, yeah. I am a lawyer so I get what you mean. Bad process to a good outcome here imo.
the most important takeaway from this should be people of All genders can suffer from domestic violence or abuse and it is never ok. I imagine some will spin this as a “proof women lie about abuse” or “this is what you get for being woke” when neither of those are constructive. Perhaps worthwhile thinking about the twitter mob culture but that’s true anyway and I don’t know how the hell we fix that
I like that plan!Someone did. What happens if it turns out they were smacking chunks out of each other? Ban them from all movies except ones where they have to star together.
Does there need to be a series after this?A lot of things have already been said, but can we all agree that she needs to lose her role in the Aquaman series after this?
Spousal abuse is one of those that we need to be aware of and report. Coercive control and behaviour is something I've had to report on thanks to this: https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidan...ive-behaviour-intimate-or-family-relationshipI said that anything talked about in counseling that is protected by law should remain private if the people involved so wish. Pretty simple. I'm sure there are laws governing certain types of admissions that have to be reported but I don't think any of this fits that but could be wrong on that since I'm not a counselor or lawyer.