Has his naysayers, but I'd actually be frustrated with that. I think he has the potential to do a very good job. And the personality to follow Klopp.
Amorim wouldn't bother me so much. Huge job for him to take and I don't think it would work
Klopp to leave Liverpool at the end of the season
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Amorim wouldn't bother me so much. Huge job for him to take and I don't think it would work
For whom do you think we should go? I fear that Amorim might to do well for Liverpool, while we end up with someone like Potter or Southgate, similar to that summer of 2013 where we ended up with Moyes while Mourinho went to Chelsea, Ancelotti went to Real Madrid, and Klopp stayed at Dortmund.
If I were Berrada the first two agents I would call (after the agents of Klopp, Guardiola and Arteta had already told me to do one) would be Zidane's and Enrique's. Don't know why each of them gets so much apathy. From my standpoint they're the two standout ones. I'm convinced Enrique would leave PSG for us. And Zidane would be more open to it with the role becoming more streamlined after Ashworth etc are in.
Yourself?
I’d prefer someone like Amorim or Inzaghi. Zidane would be good but he doesn’t speak English and doesn’t want to manage in the UK. And as someone pointing out, managing a well established Real Madrid is a lot different from managing a Manchester United in turmoil.
Enrique might be a good shout. I’m just hoping that it’s not going to be yet another bad appointment. So far, INEOS seem to be a lot more competent than the Glazers and actually seem to know their shit, so I’m hoping for the best.
I am not saying this to provoke, but I think you will be genuinely surprised. I don’t think Gakpo/Darwin/Diaz are anywhere near peak Mane/Salah/Firmino and I think the squad is paper thin and lacking in star power.
United or Chelsea could easily compete with a Kloppless Liverpool. The three coaching choices will be absolutely key to it all, but I don’t think they are as far away as you think.
Amorim would be an excellent appointment for them.
And like with Klopp we'll probably be left rueing letting them take a talented manager from under our noses due to rank incompetence.
And like with Klopp we'll probably be left rueing letting them take a talented manager from under our noses due to rank incompetence.
I think Barcelona will go for Unai Emery (he's Spanish, he's done a good job) and Liverpool could end up with a German coach to maintain their philosophy (thomas tuchel or hans flick).
Flick would make sense in a way, but Tuchel would represent a different philosophy than Klopp, despite having a similar early career and Tuchel following Klopp in Mainz and Dortmund.
Salah could easily carry on playing at the top level into his mid/late 30s, his lifestyle and commitment is similar to that of Ronaldo...I also don't see why people assume he will leave at the end of the season. Throw in Jota, and Nunez and you've still got a hell of a front 3.
I think that it'll be an adjustment but I still think our first 11 next season will be as good as anyone in the league, if all fit
Do you not think that United's squad needs a lot of work? Seems like there are a lot of players there you'd be ok selling. Others like Casemiro and Varane might not stick around for another attempt at a rebuild if ETH goes.
I don't expect us to be getting 90 plus points again any time soon, but I like what the club is doing to prepare for life without Klopp, and how they're going about looking at the available managers.
I don't disagree regarding the players we've brought in to replace Mane and Firmino, but Nunez has 17 goals in all competitions, Jota 14, Gakpo 13 (and I don't think he's even had a good season), Diaz 12. They're all contributing. It's whether a new manager can come in and keep them providing that output.
The difference between Nunez and mane/firmino is they scored goals against everyone.
Nunez is a flat track bully. Doesn't score goals in the big games but will score a double vs Sheffield United and the likes.
Look at those 17 goals and tell me how many where against a top 6 team
I want to give Nunez another season. Suarez was like that in 12/13 then improved again and stepped up. I don't think Nunez is anywhere near Suarez's level but he has improved from last season.
Mane was a clutch player though. Hard to deny that and he certainly is more than Nunez, Diaz and Gakpo. Jota has a big goal in him during those games though.
Suarez took a season to score goals. Nunez has nearly completed 2.
I can understand you and your support wanting to give him another year just in case, but to me personally I don't get the hero worshipping he gets. He misses a sitter and your fans chant his name. I find the whole thing Baffling. If he was at United and had the last 2 seasons and performed exactly the same way, the media, fans, pundits etc would rip him apart.
Jota is a smashing forward and I'd take him every time over any of your other forwards bar salah
I think he's a brilliant player to be honest. Every time I've seen him in the flesh - admittedly only what 4/5 times - he's really impressed me and he's a player that is clearly improving over time for them. I don't think your bully comment is particularly fair either as he is having more and more of an impact in bigger games for them, granted it's as much in terms of moments leading to goals such as assists or direct play prior to the finish, as it is actually scoring goals, but that's not unusual for a centre forward in Klopp's Liverpool team. I don't disagree he's a player that pundits might slate if he was in a United shirt, but he's also a player that United fans would really like if he was one of ours.
None of Nunez's 10 league goals are against sides in the top six, and half of them are against sides in the bottom six.
Five of his other seven goals have come in the Europa League (in which Liverpool have played no one of note), and he has one against Norwich in the FA Cup and Bournemouth in the League Cup.
The only part I'm going to comment on is our fans would really like him, I'm not sure we would. It's totally hypothetical and I can't prove one way or another, but in the last 10 years our fans have been quicker to go in on players and a player like Nunez missing so many sitters, never scoring against top 6 teams, I think we'd hear a lot of disgruntled fans complaining about him, not chanting his name after another missed sitter.
Each to their own, we all see the game differently. It would be a boring forum/world if we all had the same views
Nunez would get torn to shreds by our fanbase for sure, but then again our fanbase seems to hate everyone except Mainoo maybe
I guess that depends which one of our fanbases you're talking about. Without wanting to stir the pot there are very different reactions to players inside Old Trafford to when I log into Twitter or RedCafe post-game. I'm very confident the Old Trafford fanbase would like him if he was one of ours. I'm also pretty confident if he was one of ours that people wouldn't peddle nonsense such as "he never scores vs top 6 teams" too given that he's scored goals against us, Arsenal, City & Newcastle (I actually think he might even have assists against all four of those too).
He literally has zero goals against top six sides this season.
Probably lucky I didn't say "this season" then isn't it?
Look, you have to just ignore the goals against Real Madrid, Napoli, Arsenal, Utd (twice), Newcastle (a) last season; it doesn’t fit the narrative!
Enrique has been my top choice since he was linked years ago, he speaks good English and arguably had the best version of Barca we ever saw. Moreso, he's showing with PSG (and he showed at Barca with Messi) he will take on the big names and do it for the good of the team. The guy benched Messi and Mbappe, Rashford and Bruno have no chance.
...but that's the timeframe (as brought up by a Liverpool fan) that was being referred to.
Where did I respond to the Liverpool fan or the timeframe at all? I literally responded to the guy saying he didn't rate him and then again to him saying he "never" scores against top 6 teams. If you want to read my posts outside of the context they were posted in that's up to you.
You responded literally to the chain of comments where that timeframe is brought up.
That is the context.
The other guy was then generalising about how our fans would react to such a record, hence the "never scoring against top 6" comment.
Rashford scored 30 goals last season and has scored many times against top 6 clubs over his career. It doesn't mean he's fantastic and he's world class.
Last season Nunez may have scored vs those clubs but didn't score many over the season. This season he's scored more but it's all been vs lower level sides in Europe and the league.
Either way you look at it, it's not pointing towards an emense player. He's not rubbish either, just not a 100m euro player or near it.
No, I didn't respond to the chain of comments. If I was doing that I would have quoted them or at the very least referenced them. I didn't even read the previous chain of comments. I responded very directly to one poster who said he didn't rate him. That's it. You're the one applying different contexts to what I said for no apparent reason.
But it was the context of his remark, which is what you took issue with.
Yeah I think he’s the best choice but people seem to be levitating towards the likes of Nagelsmann. Who as far as I can see hasn’t shown any evidence he can be the man to win the league with United.
I think Enrique is extremely underrated. Probably just down to the recent World Cup with Spain where they were expected to do better. Even Alex Ferguson shit the bed managing a World Cup. Nothing to judge him by IMO
Im not even sure you can say he messed up in the WC. Spain’s big issue was striker pre tournament and it was the same at the euros before where they should have beaten Italy. They had 80%+ possession versus Japan in the groups and lost and really should have beaten Morocco again with stupidly high amounts of the ball and more chances although it’s not on him that they literally scored no penalties in the shoot out.
Enrique is terrible but an improvementon Ten Hag. Zidane a much better choice.
The problem with Enrique is that his teams are very much exposed at the back. I remember Barcelona being terrible interms of conceding throughout his tenure there. They had to have all their forwards at their absolute best to win big games and even than sometimes it wasn't enough.
Yeah I'd probably read the original post I responded to again and tell me I've responded to context rather than the actual post directly pal.
With all due respect, do you understand what context is?
You responded to a comment and completely ignored the context of the remarks you took issue with.
Yes, you replied directly to those remarks, but those remarks were made in the context of a chain of comments about this season.
All I did was reiterate that context.
If you still don't get it after this, don't bother replying.
I don’t think you achieve what he has through being “terrible” no matter what players you have.
Ten Hag isn’t terrible either. Unless you count this season alone
So we will disagree
I believe you also need the charisma, personality and the bollocks to be the United manager too because it’s unlike any other job except perhaps Madrid. Ten Hag lacks the personality and charisma. Enrique doesn’t imo.
Jesus christ I can feel my brain cells killing themselves having this conversation.
This was the post I responded to, in full;
The post quite literally states "Nunez has completed nearly 2" and "If he was at United and had the last 2 seasons". At that point, any previous context of earlier posts - which I was not part of and have said I didn't even look at - of the conversation being about only this season, evidently goes out of the window.
If you still don't get it after this, don't bother replying.
It's quite evident your brain cells have been killing themselves for a while.
As I highlighted earlier:
Jesus christ
The stats of a PL great
How did that turn out for you ya cocky prick.
Nice to give the goofy cnut a nice send off.