Pickle85
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Your English beats the hell out of my whatever language it is that you speak!Sorry guys my pathetic English led to few people fighting each other
Your English beats the hell out of my whatever language it is that you speak!Sorry guys my pathetic English led to few people fighting each other
You're comment is insulting. It doesn't make a man bisexual if he is in a relationship with a transgender woman, because she is a woman.I hope opposition fans don't use this to "insult" him. Would go a long way to normalize this if a world class player was openly bisexual.
Honestly the biggest issue is that she is older than he is.I said if he doesn't shy away from it, than it is a great initiative (maybe my English is weak, but I meant precedent or doesn't feel embarassed to admit or staying behind the closet or being brave enough, whatever is the word).
Basically what I meant, if it is true and he doesn't shy away from openly confessing that he is dating a transwoman while playing in a overtly masculine and homo/transphobic environment that football dressing room, training ground and football game/fan environment is, it would be a great initiative (whatever the appropriate word is).
10 year age gap? NiceHonestly the biggest issue is that she is older than he is.
He is a footballer, who or what he dates it's non of my fecking business. Just hope he is happy in his life.Quite a number of people, or it wouldn't be news. I've really never understood this attitude...just because one person doesn't find something newsworthy or of interest doesn't mean that the rest of the world also shouldn't.
This thought process presents a problem in itself. You're making the mistake of assuming masculinity and homophobia are synonymous with each other, which isn't true, not to mention unfair. It might have been true 30/40 years ago, but not in 2022.I said if he doesn't shy away from it, than it is a great initiative (maybe my English is weak, but I meant precedent or doesn't feel embarassed to admit or staying behind the closet or being brave enough, whatever is the word).
Basically what I meant, if it is true and he doesn't shy away from openly confessing that he is dating a transwoman while playing in a overtly masculine and homo/transphobic environment that football dressing room, training ground and football game/fan environment is, it would be a great initiative (whatever the appropriate word is).
Ah that can also lead to trolling I remember absolutely hideous and stupid trolling that Priyanka Chopra got when she married/was dating Nick Jones.Honestly the biggest issue is that she is older than he is.
Who has sexual preferences based on religion? What a strange thing to get the horn over.Unfortunately that's not true at all. A very large amount of people do care about your sexual preferences whether we are talking about gender, ethnicity or religion. That's largely why these things are in the media.
Btw what’s a transwoman? Is it a post op woman? If so then why call her a trans woman and not a woman.You're comment is insulting. It doesn't make a man bisexual if he is in a relationship with a transgender woman, because she is a woman.
10 year age gap? Nice
Not that it's a terrible thing but I'm more surprised by a young successful and good looking person dating someone far from their age. Now in this case it's also because I have seen here in the past and in my mind she is fairly mainstream and post op, so the transgender part is an afterthought.Ah that can also lead to trolling I remember absolutely hideous and stupid trolling that Priyanka Chopra got when she married/was dating Nick Jones.
Many people have preferences for others when it comes to dating or even sex and that includes the religion of each parties. Many people are way too nosy.Who has sexual preferences based on religion? What a strange thing to get the horn over.
This thought process presents a problem in itself. You're making the mistake of assuming masculinity and homophobia are synonymous with each other, which isn't true, not to mention unfair. It might have been true 30/40 years ago, but not in 2022.
If we left these two alone to enjoy their private lives without hassle from the media who insist on covering every ounce of their relationship, they'd be a lot happier.
Yes, that's much better. And yes, Mbappé not shying away from the story could be good, though ultimately, it's their own life and they're entitled to their privacy. It's also a thin line to walk between publicly acknowledging he's dating a trans woman and turning it into a spectacle - deliberately drawing attention to it...I said if he doesn't shy away from it, than it is a great initiative (maybe my English is weak, but I meant precedent or doesn't feel embarassed to admit or staying behind the closet or being brave enough, whatever is the word).
Basically what I meant, if it is true and he doesn't shy away from openly confessing that he is dating a transwoman while playing in a overtly masculine and homo/transphobic environment that football dressing room, training ground and football game/fan environment is, it would be a great initiative (whatever the appropriate word is).
Agree and disagree with this. Agree with the point you are making, but disagree based on the specific context. I might be wrong, but i believe toxic masculinity and homophobia go hand in hand when it comes to team sports. It's also why i don't think this news does much to help LGBT+ footballersThis thought process presents a problem in itself. You're making the mistake of assuming masculinity and homophobia are synonymous with each other, which isn't true, not to mention unfair. It might have been true 30/40 years ago, but not in 2022.
A woman who was assigned male at birthBtw what’s a transwoman? Is it a post op woman? If so then why call her a trans woman and not a woman.
Why would he come out as gay? It's a post op trans-woman.I'm confused, did he just come out as gay?
Your English is fine, dude. Stop apologizing for it. You don't know bad English until you've read a whatsapp convo between me and a friend at 3 in the morning after a night on the sauceI should stop using paragraphs and words which is basically leading to my point being misjudged . Again when I said masculinity, I meant the toxic masculinity mentally where anyone not acting manly as per the set of masculinity frat boys rules is mocked by so called manly man.
And yes ofcourse it should not our business who Mbappe is dating, but what I meant if he as a popular footballer is dating a transwoman than it would make many people who are attracted to transwoman but do not admit it due to being feared of being mocked, will feel more brave. I know that shouldn't be happening in the world, where we need a popular man to date a transwoman to have more acceptance but that is how world is.
I hope I haven't misconstructed my thoughts again by my not so eloquent english dammit I should just stop writing
What is toxic masculinity, exactly?Agree and disagree with this. Agree with the point you are making, but disagree based on the specific context. I might be wrong, but i believe toxic masculinity and homophobia go hand in hand when it comes to team sports. It's also why i don't think this news does much to help LGBT+ footballers
A woman who was assigned male at birth
Yeah, if she didn’t have her bits chopped off but looked exactly the same would he be with her? It seems like a technicality. Does he go as far as really effeminate men? Love and be who you want to be with by the way.I'm confused, did he just come out as gay?
By being in a relationship with a woman?I'm confused, did he just come out as gay?
Sh!t loads of people will have an issue with it.Who gives a shit who he is dating?
How you treat others. Simple as that. For example, misoginy is arguably the most common form of toxic masculinity. Homophobia too, usually(but not always)Let me ask you a different question, how do you determine acceptable masculinity from toxic masculinity?
So don't be like every Redcafe matchday thread that ever existed. Okay, I got you. Thanks for the advice.How you treat others. Simple as that. For example, misoginy is arguably the most common form of toxic masculinity. Homophobia too, usually(but not always)
I'm from Chester, England. The greatest place on earth. Kind of.
Her* white text, know what you meant..The chants are gonna be insufferable. Hope Mbappe carries on doing him regardless and doesn’t let it affect his play.
I said secretly, so chances are, personally they are not supportive of it. But yeah what you see will always be different of course, they will support anything that helps with good PR.Tweet
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Tbh I doubt they care. In the same way Beckham can get paid millions for the adverts about the latest World Cup while also believing in women and gay rights.
People can quite easily put aside any personal beliefs when it comes to business.
I didn’t see that white text at firstHer* white text, know what you meant..
This comment is very insulting
I googled and it seems he has dated biological women before … so I’m confused - why are you accusing me of being anti-trans? I support this and even said that this was a great thing for LGBT.You're comment is insulting. It doesn't make a man bisexual if he is in a relationship with a transgender woman, because she is a woman.
you can be with a transwoman and still be heterosexual.I googled and it seems he has dated biological women before … so I’m confused - why are you accusing me of being anti-trans? I support this and even said that this was a great thing for LGBT.
I guessed I’m still learning the terms and logics … I’ll stay out of the discussion till then. Just wanted to voice my support.you can be with a transwoman and still be heterosexual.
Em due to simple biology he isn't a woman though. Pretty sure he has XY chromosomes. Even me writing such sentence sounds bananas. It's a man that looks/dresses/feels/identifies as a woman. He has had his bits and pieces removed. You're either born male or female.You're comment is insulting. It doesn't make a man bisexual if he is in a relationship with a transgender woman, because she is a woman.