I feel as though most Portuguese coaches would do well in Brazil. Brazilians coaches really are not that good.
I do agree though that JJ Flamengo would absolutely destroy Abel palmeiras.
I would agree, with a couple of exceptions. Sa Pinto for example came to Vasco and took them to the relegation zone and they are still there. They might actually get relegated in 2 weeks. That’s shocking for a club their size.
There are a couple of good up and coming Brazilian coaches with potential, for example the young guy at Red Bull Bragantino. But in general I agree, there are a lot of dinosaur Brazilian coaches who manage exactly like Big Sam or Steve Bruce.
Why such low confidence? A win in the next game and a draw at Sao Paulo is enough, I think they can pull it off
They lost on penalties in the last 16. With JJ they also went to penalties in the round of 16 against Emelec, just happened to win one and lose the other. He also won the final at the end like Abel.
I agree that he did a good job and that they're worse off now but I honestly think his work there got overrated by both Flamengo fans and the portuguese media who treated him like a God for it.
I just think it’s too much of a GD swing required. Like you, I believe that’s what will happen, which (assuming Inter beat Corinthians in their final game) would put us both on 72 points. The first tiebreaker in Brazil is number of wins and we would both have 21 wins. And then it comes to GD; currently it’s a difference of 7. To turn that around in 2 games we would have to beat them by 4 or 5, and then hope they only win by 1 v Corinthians. We have to win both games really and SP away is always a terrible game.
With a small/big difference. He didn't had not even close the same type of financial investment like Flamengo had.
Not even the same amount of time JJ had to coach at Flamengo, he had 3 weeks to work the team in a small pre season, Abel always had a sequence of games between 72/96 hours, and the only signing they had was Breno Lopes a guy from Serie B and Kuscevic and Empereur, none of them is a starter.
I agree JJ football concepts are better but Abel never worked in a club where he had a budget to sign whoever he wants.
It's not like that because in Brazil if you lose 2 matches in a row the media already starts to demand the coach to be sacked, the competition between the clubs is very thight, there's not big differences as you see in Europe. But yes that Flamengo team was way better than Palmeiras.
You make a fair point. However the football concepts as you mentioned is a major factor somewhere like Brazil. There are a lot of coaches who play like Abel plays but very few, if any, who can implement a style like JJ did with the high line and attacking football (this may change next season with Ramirez and Crespo). So I think it’s more than just preparation and investment. Whatever he has turned into now, JJ deserves credit for that.
Absolutely. By the way I think it would be a big mistake for Flamengo to bring him back, the only other club in Brazil where I can see him having the type of investment he likes is Atletico Mineiro, honestly he is a disgrace working with players coming from the youth teams. He was very good until 5 years ago, but not as good as he thinks he is.
Mineiro have reported record profits strangely and have been making some really crazy deals for a Brazilian club; Matias Zaracho (who should be in Europe already), Vargas, Hulk, and they are even going for Nacho Fernandez of River. You can imagine what kind of money it takes to handpick one of Gallardo’s main starters at River for the past 5 years. They are backing Sampaoli like there is no tomorrow, and if he doesn’t bring the title next season he’s gone.