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if it's true that West Ham are also paying the Loan fee and his full salary it does give me hope he won't come back.
Re Martial - Players who look like they aren’t trying most of the time, which he’ll be seen as when he leaves like a Lukaku or Alexis.Did Martial leave?
Did Young and Valencia receive this 'Venom' you speak of?
This joke is as old as time itself, but i still snickerGood opportunity for the lad to get some PL experience, should help with his development.
Sorry Sorry. Of course LingardAre you talking about the midfielder or our former keeper?
I see, and what if someone thinks Lingard doesn't look arsed half the time, the way you think Martial and Lukaku look like they aren't trying. Would the criticism be fair then?Re Martial - Players who look like they aren’t trying most of the time, which he’ll be seen as when he leaves like a Lukaku or Alexis.
So did they get venom from the fans? Or are you making a prediction that they will?Re Young and Valencia - Guarantee you. Especially Young. Smalling did as well come to think of it, and Jones is already getting it as if we’ll magically start winning trophies after getting rid of these players, completely ignoring the recruitment side.
Don't think so no.We can recall him at any time right? If covid hits and we are depleted we will need him.
That’s not how loans work. Even if we could he’d be ineligible for PL and EL games because he won’t be named in the finalised squads when the window closes.We can recall him at any time right? If covid hits and we are depleted we will need him.
Forgot the bus incident was West Ham! Bit awkward like.Good luck JLingz and thank you Moyes. You lived the dream but sadly were too limited as a player.
My three highlights of his time here:
1. Winner vs Palace. Stopping Pardew’s celebration dance in its track was sweet.
2. Goal vs Arse and making the Emirates his dance floor.
3. Uploading the ‘bantz’ to social media as the United team bus was being attacked by West Ham fans. Some good foresight there, building a connection with the fans years before his move.
Name and shame them.Some absolute wankers in this thread unsurprisingly. Wish him the best of luck, had some great moments, and really contributed at times for us. Loves the club, and I wish him nothing but the best. It's for everyones benefit that this loan move goes well.
I see your point, but I don’t think anyone says Martial, Alexis and Lukaku give as much effort on the pitch as Lingard. Jesse’s not a great footballer but he runs and runs and runs when he plays, like the Leicester goal last season (would the former 3 have scored that with us? Nah). Three of them were and in Martial’s case, are infuriatingly laid back and lazy 90% of the time.I see, and what if someone thinks Lingard doesn't look arsed half the time, the way you think Martial and Lukaku look like they aren't trying. Would the criticism be fair then?
So did they get venom from the fans? Or are you making a prediction that they will?
Don't remember anyone saying boo about Young and especially Valencia after they left personally. Could be wrong though, Lukaku does get some stick but then he's been talking shit.
Yeah Jesse isn't lazy 90% of the time i'd agree there.I see your point, but I don’t think anyone says Martial, Alexis and Lukaku give as much effort on the pitch as Lingard. Jesse’s not a great footballer but he runs and runs and runs when he plays, like the Leicester goal last season (would the former 3 have scored that with us? Nah). Three of them were and in Martial’s case, are infuriatingly laid back and lazy 90% of the time.
As for Young and Valencia, it’s not just them honestly. Forget them and Fellaini, even a real legend of sorts in Phil Neville took stick that day just because he joined Inter Miami. If he can take stick, then the likes of Young and Valencia are basically fair game to most fans. I don’t understand why good servants to the club take as much stick as they do by our fans. Just doesn’t make sense.
Good luck JLingz and thank you Moyes. You lived the dream but sadly were too limited as a player.
My three highlights of his time here:
1. Winner vs Palace. Stopping Pardew’s celebration dance in its track was sweet.
2. Goal vs Arse and making the Emirates his dance floor.
3. Uploading the ‘bantz’ to social media as the United team bus was being attacked by West Ham fans. Some good foresight there, building a connection with the fans years before his move.
Vast, LegacyCompared to some of the absolute nothings that have left our club over the last few years, Lingard's contribution is vast and should be much more appreciated. Think we've had so many players who added nothing to this side, Lingard actually leaves with somewhat of a legacy.
He´s a player with great movement, works hard and provides something else. Won´t play as a starter in most games but I believe he will be a great squad player for them. It´a loan after all. For us he´s in the shopping window and his value doesn´t go down that quickly. The player plays. It´s a win win. BTW if Lingard can get some confidence back, he could easily score goals for them. Him and Welbeck are players whose conversion rate might not be the best but they will get to many chances because of their good movement. For a club like Untied Linagrd won´t get to play as a SS but for a club like WHU he might get a chance to do so and that´s his best position, rather than shifted out wide..What do West Ham fans think of this signing I wonder.
He'll probably do well for them but it's not the most inspiring signing.
I think after Soucek, none of them should dare question the methods of the Moyes messiah.What do West Ham fans think of this signing I wonder.
He'll probably do well for them but it's not the most inspiring signing.
Down to a lack of match fitness and sharpness, yeah. He'll definitely get plenty of game time though.He won't make their starting line-up!
Dawson too.I think after Soucek, none of them should dare question the methods of the Moyes messiah.
In all honesty it's a cracking signing for WH. They play with high intensity and that's one of his main strengths. He's a solid upgrade on Lanzini and Yarmolenko in those attacking positions.What do West Ham fans think of this signing I wonder.
He'll probably do well for them but it's not the most inspiring signing.
Fair enough. Can agree with that.Yeah Jesse isn't lazy 90% of the time i'd agree there.
As for why some players get criticized well it is what it is i suppose. People invest a lot of time and emotion into supporting a team, when you watch a team play 6-8 times a month and certain players just aren't performing for months/years on end yet still getting picked. And are a big reason the club isn't doing well as it mostly hasn't been post SAF then it's natural that some start to resent those players and get frustrated with them. Complaining about them on here can be cathartic.
This! He has had a difficult career due to injuries, family problems, etc.Plenty of goals at Wembley, big performances with the occasional screamers down the years. Big part of the side the last time we ever actually won anything. Not to mention the fact that he's been struggling a lot with family problems over the last year or so. Sure, he's not been good enough for a while now, but he hasn't been part of the team for ages. I really don't get any bitterness and vitriol towards him.
The age jokes are about as funny as cholera too, btw.