Liverpool are the luckiest club in the league and it will never end
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
It is 10 min
Anyone watching able to confirm that’s fair?
Literally said it in a group chat about ten mins ago that they’d get ten mins added.Please tell me this added time on both halves is justified. It's getting silly now.
Total 18 minutes of added time.
Not even hiding it anymore.
Not even hiding it anymore.
Did someone get injured or has the used the World Cup method?
They will win this game, nailed on.
Apart from the Mings studs up challenge, I can’t remember any major stoppage. I was watching both games.
10mins extra time. Seems like whole world is trying to force liverpool into top 4. How come we never get this type of benefits? I do admit during SAF time we do get a bit of that but not to this extent.
A lot of game would justify this much added time but it's never applied.
Liverpool are possibly the only club in England that get this treatment.
What actually happened in both halves for this to happen? Was there even a long break in play?
Or just cause Liverpool needed a goal?
Fecking Firmino to leave it for our next game. We better get that 1 point against Chelsea, we really should get 3!
Yes that is what I don't understand. What was the reason that they get these treatment. Was it because most of the people with decision making power are liverpool supporters?
Corruption FC couldn’t even take advantage. Fekk off to Thursday nights
Is there any other marches that has this type of added time? If not, then why there is no one talking about this unfair treatments to other teams from LPool. 18 mins in added time will never happen to Man Utd in a million year no matter what happens on the pitch.
I thought blantant corruption only happens in my country but think not...
I thought blantant corruption only happens in my country but think not...
All I can think of is that Villa were doing some of the worst time wasting I've seen, from very early in the half.
But 10 minutes was ludicrous.
Villa were shithousing but no worse than I see in most games.
Klopp's shithousery definitely helps. Refs are human after all - surely they're influenced (even if subtly) by narratives in the media, press conferences, etc.
Not sure at what point it's less luck and more engineered
I've asked on various forums and Reddit, and absolutely nobody has been able to explain why the ref decided to add about 500% more time than average for a PL game. Someone murmured something about timewasting, but it would be plain impossible to waste that much time without getting sent off. Couple of injuries but none severe, one penalty, one VAR overturn, and two goals should not come out to more than like 5-6 minutes at the most.
The rest is plainly just the referee's deliberate attempt to help Liverpool win, and it'd be laughable for anyone to deny it anymore. It's been going on consistently, week in week out, for a handful of years now. As the refs grow more and more used to doing it, they just get complacent about hiding it. It's routine for them at this point, so they're sloppy about keeping it within the boundaries of plausible deniability.
They push it a little bit further each year, and today was an indisputable example of that.
We saw that a few years back when he started bawling about how many penalties we were getting (at that point, we'd gotten one more than them, by the way) and then we suddenly didn't get a single pen for the next eight months or so, despite numerous utter stonewallers that the refs just opted to deny us.
To be honest, even if refs are only human, they're supposed to be professionals and it shouldn't be possible to influence them so easily. When a manager can effectively sabotage a rival's season by launching a dishonest smear campaign against them, football has failed to maintain its own integrity.
Nkunku unavailable on Sunday due to a customary and timely pre-Liverpool injury.
These wankers are off to their jammy ways and the season hasn’t even started yet!
Incredible.
These wankers are off to their jammy ways and the season hasn’t even started yet!
Incredible.
Nkunku is hardly Haaland is he? I doubt it will have much impact on the result.
He’s not, but Haaland doesn’t play for Chelsea so it’s completely irrelevant. You can only judge Chelsea relative to their best players, so of course Nkunku being missing is going to make it easier for a Liverpool,
I don't think so. Jackson might start and score a bagful. Chelsea are at home and they should be getting a result against Liverpool with or without their new striker.
Liverpool are so lucky that they finished 5th and playing Thursday night football this season.
The same Chelsea that finished in the bottom half of the table last season?
They've since spent god knows how much. Liverpool are also quite average, with a poor defence and untested midfield. Game will probably be strewn with errors and end 2-2.
Which are the players Chelsea have signed that you think will elevate them from last season?
Liverpool didn't exactly pull up any trees last season. Think when you look at the respective squads it's fair to say that Chelsea under a new coach following a good Pre Season would be disappointed not to get a result at home.
Back in early December. We don't play Chelsea til then
The same Liverpool that finished 6 points below us in 3rd place. They had a very strong end to the season.
It’s impossible to tell what sort of form these teams will come into the first game of the season with but there’s nothing to suggest Chelsea would be favourites over Liverpool at this point in my opinion, especially without one of their major summer signings.
I could be wrong and I hate praising Liverpool as much as the next person, but I also think it would be foolish to write them off considering how they ended last season.
I need to stop seeing every second ball somehow fall to them this season. Especially when it spins and bobbles to someone waiting in space for an easy tap in.
That 90+11' Gakpo winner on Sunday is gonna hurt.
I can already see a miss hit Salah shot bouncing off Colwill’s toe, just out of Silva’s reach and into Gakpo’s path for an easy goal.
Yeah our form dropped off because we lost our best defender and midfielder for extended periods and had no striker.
Still managed to finish comfortably above them and even then I wouldn't expect us to go to Stamford Bridge next season and guarantee a win.
Chelsea are going to shock a lot of you next a season. They have good players and a good manager, they will not be a walkover for most teams.
Regardless the Nkunku news, which won‘t help, I do think they seriously lack quality upfront. Maybe in 2-3 years all those youngsters come off good but I see a lack of goals hindering them to win as much as needed to really go for 1-4. Still a hard side to play against and beat mind you. Maybe if they get Vlahovic in and that group of youngsters hit the ground running.
Was it not 8 points a difference in the end?
It was.