KM
I’m afraid I just blue myself
- Joined
- Sep 18, 2008
- Messages
- 49,785
To be fair Glaston, you don't have any idea what United can afford and what they can't.
With the FFP regulations coming into play I could make a pretty good guess that it's less than what Levy would demand in the circumstances I outlined.To be fair Glaston, you don't have any idea what United can afford and what they can't.
I never said they would, however if we want him then we shouldn't wait.Spurs will not sell him in january. Pretty naive to expect otherwise. Next summer is the earliest you could hope for to land him.
United are well suited to meet the FFP regulations, however Modric might be a bridge too farWith the FFP regulations coming into play I could make a pretty good guess that it's less than what Levy would demand in the circumstances I outlined.
Unless of course you sell off some players and get a pretty penny in return ...
You're a clueless gimp Glaston, it's widely acknowledged that United are one of, if not the, best placed English club when FFP does come into place. If United want him, view him worth £40 mil, Spurs see fit to accept that amount, and he wants to come here, then United can quite easily afford him.With the FFP regulations coming into play I could make a pretty good guess that it's less than what Levy would demand in the circumstances I outlined.
Unless of course you sell off some players and get a pretty penny in return ...
"The chairman stood firm over Luka," he told Sky Sports News. "I think £40million was apparently offered yesterday. Whether that is true or not, it is what I heard."
Of course, if Chelsea don't finish in the top four, the chances of getting Modric would get even slimmer. However, they could still offer him bettter wages and the club will probably invest in bringing other top talent in the summer.Have you ever considered the distinct possibility that Chelsea may finish outside the top 4 this season? If they do, I doubt Modric will renew his interest in moving across town.
And if Spurs finish in the top 4, can you imagine how much money it'd take to persuade Levy to sell Modric next summer? The answer is more than Man. Utd could afford.
Btw, official or not, the 40m figure comes from many sources.
I highly doubt that's true.... Btw, it might interest you but an ITK on RI who is always right(has some kind of job at Carrington) posted that Levy offered Modric to Us for 45-50m Pounds(few days after Champions League) as he would rather do the deal with us than Chelsea, but obviously we denied.
Slimmer? Try non-existent.... Of course, if Chelsea don't finish in the top four, the chances of getting Modric would get even slimmer ....
All very well, but 40m would not be the figure in question in the circumstances outlined. Think much higher.... it's widely acknowledged that United are one of, if not the, best placed English club when FFP does come into place. If United want him, view him worth £40 mil, Spurs see fit to accept that amount, and he wants to come here, then United can quite easily afford him.
For £40 mil, as far as i'm concerned, you can keep him though. He isn't worth that much.
It'd be a futile attempt which is why i dont think you'l try in jan. thats what i was getting at.I never said they would, however if we want him then we shouldn't wait.
How much higher cause 40 is too alreadyAll very well, but 40m would not be the figure in question in the circumstances outlined. Think much higher.
How much higher are you talking here Glaston, because unless you're getting into world record signing figures then FFP will have feck all bearing on whether United can or will buy a player. They make enough in revenue and sponsorship for FFP to have little to no bearing on their decision making in regards to transfers.All very well, but 40m would not be the figure in question in the circumstances outlined. Think much higher.
Well, and as I've said before, it's not about how much Modric is or isn't worth.How much higher cause 40 is too already
No he right; slimmer. Being outside of CL never stopped the City players (Yaya Toure, Silva etc) to join them. You are grossly underestimating the power of money.Slimmer? Try non-existent.
I don't believe the (bolded) statement above is true.How much higher are you talking here Glaston, because unless you're getting into world record signing figures then FFP will have feck all bearing on whether United can or will buy a player. They make enough in revenue and sponsorship for FFP to have little to no bearing on their decision making in regards to transfers.
You might be right in that what Spurs/Levy demand in respect to any prospective Modric transfer might be above what United would be willing to pay, but it won't be because FFP means they can't afford it. You are talking bollocks if that's the point you're making.
You keep bandying around this £40 million figure, it was never official, nobody ever admitted making or rejecting a bid, 'Arry just said it's what he heard. Who did he hear it from? He never said "Daniel Levy told me we've just turned down £40 million." It's been said in this thread before that 'Arry talks bollocks a lot of the time, which is true. Where did he hear they'd rejected a bid? The only weight that story has is that it came from Redknapp, which automatically makes it impossible to take as fact. He most likely heard it through his car window whilst shouting through it to a sky camera.Well, and as I've said before, it's not about how much Modric is or isn't worth.
Spurs turned down 40m in the summer, with no CL in prospect. If we qualify for the CL this time around it's reasonable to assume that (a) Modric's desire to leave will be less; and (b) Spurs would be even more reluctant to sell and thus would demand considerably more than they turned down from Chelski.
I've never said they will sell, or that United will bid, or that they'd get him if they tried. Spurs may well not sell, United may well not want him, but it would take an astronomical figure for United to be able to not afford it because of FFP. They may not be able to afford it due to the Glazers not doling out the funds, but not because of FFP.I don't believe the (bolded) statement above is true.
If the FFP rules have any teeth - and I accept that this remains to be seen - then they will have an impact on the transfer decisions of all clubs, even if some clubs are affected more than others.
I don't want to get further caught up in hypothetical figures for Modric's possible sale beyond what I've said already. Suffice it to say that Spurs don't wish to sell, don't need to sell and, if we finish in the top 4, almost certainly won't sell.
It wasn't reported in the media, as the figure originated solely from him. Where do you think he'll have heard it from exactly, the tea-lady?"The chairman stood firm over Luka," he told Sky Sports News. "I think £40million was apparently offered yesterday. Whether that is true or not, it is what I heard."
This is what I called Redknapp's ramblings earlier. The man is a fecking buffoon who talks nonsense half the time. Like I said, there was never a confirmed 40m bid for Modric.
Man. City were an exceptional case: a team that were clearly on the rise, with unlimited amounts of money being invested and thus several top class players joining them, one after the other, in quick succession.No he right; slimmer. Being outside of CL never stopped the City players (Yaya Toure, Silva etc) to join them. You are grossly underestimating the power of money.
Modric will go though - he's maybe got 5-6 years left of being really, really top flight and Spurs will struggle to establish themselves as a Champion's League club in that time, let alone bona fide title contenders in the Premier League.I don't believe the (bolded) statement above is true.
If the FFP rules have any teeth - and I accept that this remains to be seen - then they will have an impact on the transfer decisions of all clubs, even if some clubs are affected more than others.
I don't want to get further caught up in hypothetical figures for Modric's possible sale beyond what I've said already. Suffice it to say that Spurs don't wish to sell, don't need to sell and, if we finish in the top 4, almost certainly won't sell.
It wasn't reported in the media, as the figure originated solely from him. Where do you think he'll have heard it from exactly, the tea-lady?
KM, I'm a little confused about your post. We offered out Modric for 50 million a few days after the champions league started? So after the season had already started after September, we offered him out?
I don't think Glaston is right in saying FPP is the reason that you are not able/willing to spend 40 million+ on Modric but he is hardly saying anything different to what a huge number of you will have likely said after the Glazers took over. The money is not there in the same way it has been previously and such huge sums won't be spent on a single player, especially one with a hugely reduced resale value at the end of the contract.
My apologies, I meant the Champions League final.It wasn't reported in the media, as the figure originated solely from him. Where do you think he'll have heard it from exactly, the tea-lady?
KM, I'm a little confused about your post. We offered out Modric for 50 million a few days after the champions league started? So after the season had already started after September, we offered him out?
I don't think Glaston is right in saying FPP is the reason that you are not able/willing to spend 40 million+ on Modric but he is hardly saying anything different to what a huge number of you will have likely said after the Glazers took over. The money is not there in the same way it has been previously and such huge sums won't be spent on a single player, especially one with a hugely reduced resale value at the end of the contract.
Maybe, maybe not. Nothing is written in stone and it wouldn't be the first time that Spurs have done better than many predicted.Modric will go though - he's maybe got 5-6 years left of being really, really top flight and Spurs will struggle to establish themselves as a Champion's League club in that time ....
Even then, would you stay at a 'maybe, maybe not' Champion's League club if you could play out your career at a club which totally expected to be in the CL every year? It's a no brainer for me, and Levy's price hikes aside I suspect it will be for Modric too.Maybe, maybe not. Nothing is written in stone and it wouldn't be the first time that Spurs have done better than many predicted.
A case that set a precedence nevertheless. And yes, those players joined after City managed to qualify which is why I didn't include them. Still, they have prolific players who did join them before they qualified.Man. City were an exceptional case: a team that were clearly on the rise, with unlimited amounts of money being invested and thus several top class players joining them, one after the other, in quick succession.
Besides, several of the players - e.g. Nasri, Aguero - joined this summer, after Man. City had qualified for the CL.
Chelski, in contrast, are in decline and now entering an era where the FFP rules come into play.
If Spurs finish in the top 4 and Chelski don't, there'd be zero chance that Modric is going to join them ... even if he still wanted to.
In the hypothetical context I've mentioned - namely where this season Spurs finish in the top 4 and Chelski don't - what price "totally expected to be in the CL every year"?Even then, would you stay at a 'maybe, maybe not' Champion's League club if you could play out your career at a club which totally expected to be in the CL every year? It's a no brainer for me, and Levy's price hikes aside I suspect it will be for Modric too.
I think I'm one of the less biased posters on here and I'm happy to admit Spurs are looking good at the moment but if I was Modric I'd be worried the house of cards all looks a bit flimsy: Redknapp could be gone in the summer to succeed Capello, Adebayor is only a loan signing and other than him you lack quality strikers, and if age catches up with Friedel you'd be in trouble. Next season could be very different to this year, especially if this season is indeed Redknapp's swan song.
Thinking about it, I can well imagine a deal was struck with Modric to stay for Redknapp's last year and to have a 'good go' with Harry to get Spurs into the CL before leaving next summer.
Out of interest, did you have this same feeling last summer as well?I highly suspect Modric will be a Chelsea or United player in the summer, and he certainly won't cost 40m. It's getting too apparent an inevitable transfer like the ones of Ronaldo and Fabregas
You see, I'm not so sure if I'm being honest.I highly suspect Modric will be a Chelsea or United player in the summer, and he certainly won't cost 40m. It's getting too apparent an inevitable transfer like the ones of Ronaldo and Fabregas
You're right - didn't realise he was 26 and will turn 27 at the start of next year. I said the same a few posts ago about next summer - can easily believe he agreed to stay on for Harry's possible last season.From Modric's perspective this summer will probably be the last time he has the chance to move to one of the biggest clubs in Europe, it would not surprise me if he has the same gentlemans agreement that we had with Ronaldo and Csec had with Arsenal i.e. give us one more year and we'll let you go next summer
I doubt he'll come to United though as we won't pay 30m+ for a near 27 year old midfielder
It will have 4 more years to run after the end of this season.You're right - didn't realise he was 26 and will turn 27 at the start of next year.
When does his contract run out? The only way I can see him going to United is if we do an Ashley Young style move in the last year of his contract.
No wonder he wanted out so badly last summer!
Like I mentioned above, he's going to be in a very similar position as Berbatov was.I think he would be able to give Tottenham a couple more years, before spending a few years at a bigger club.
Odd bit of advice, letting him sign that. That contract, together with Levy, will make it very hard for him to move up to a bigger club.It will have 4 more years to run after the end of this season.