KM
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Modric can probably play at the highest level for the next five years or so, I don't think age is an issue with him, yet.
Barca's MF is the combination of Xavi and Iniesta, I don't think any player/combo in football now can match it. So it's a bit of an unfair comparison really.I don't think Modric is classified in the same bracket as worldclass for him to break the bank to buy, I mean, no doubt Modric is a wonderful player playing really well for Spurs and has been consistent for three years etc... But still, is he that type of player who'd definitely be up there with Barca's MF ? Modric still isn't on that level yet so I doubt we'd be spending that much money on him...
In what sense? It is if you're talking about moving to United, who have a policy to sign under 27 year old players. Any other club are going to want him sooner rather than later, too.Modric can probably play at the highest level for the next five years or so, I don't think age is an issue with him, yet.
As in that he could easily play to his peak at 32-33, because his style doesn't rely on speed or power. I think we would go for him even if he's 27, since we did tried for Sneijder in the previous windowIn what sense? It is if you're talking about moving to United, who have a policy to sign under 27 year old players. Any other club are going to want him sooner rather than later, too.
I think it quite probably is this summer or never, as far as a move to a top club goes. Can't see him going at 28 or 29...
Sneijder is similar to Modric?As in that he could easily play to his peak at 32-33, because his style doesn't rely on speed or power. I think we would go for him even if he's 27, since we did tried for Sneijder in the previous window
My point is that recently United showed interest in signing a 27yr midfielder, why can't that point be applied to Modric?Sneijder is similar to Modric?
True, and given the need for a central midfielder, I imagine we are willing to pay slightly over the top for the right player.My point is that recently United showed interest in signing a 27yr midfielder, why can't that point be applied to Modric?
We're fortunate that a player was actually forced to honour his contract for once (and messing up the beginning of the season) while we committed the crime of preventing him moving across London to play in the exact same league and win the same number of trophies this season, while still depositing 70k a week into his account?Apart from the ridiculous contract he has signed a year earlier and Levi being a stubborn prick, Spurs were fortunate that Modric is a decent guy and a professional, all things considered. If they had someone like Tevez or Balotelli in this situation, keeping them against their will would be detrimental for the club, contract or no contract.
Because Modric hasn't played for Real and Inter, and doesn't have any of that proven class at that level and experience?My point is that recently United showed interest in signing a 27yr midfielder, why can't that point be applied to Modric?
We're fortunate that a player was actually forced to honour his contract for once (and messing up the beginning of the season) while we committed the crime of preventing him moving across London to play in the exact same league and win the same number of trophies this season, while still depositing 70k a week into his account?
I can't quite believe that football has gotten to the stage where a player who signs a 6 year contract and then next summer tries to force a move is seen as a decent guy, while a chairman who is looking out for his club and refuses to be cowed by the riches of an externally financed club is a prick.
Frankly, even ignoring the advantages of having Modric as a player in the squad, I'm glad to have quashed Modric's and Chelsea's joint moves to get him for a cut price this summer, if only for the message it sent out. Pricks.
I have to remind you spur that Chelsea fans have difficulty with concepts like honour, contract (unless it's a bullet in the head type), and crime.We're fortunate that a player was actually forced to honour his contract for once (and messing up the beginning of the season) while we committed the crime of preventing him moving across London to play in the exact same league and win the same number of trophies this season, while still depositing 70k a week into his account?
Clearly! I remember the same kind of comments as they continued to increase their offers by 2 million increments from the risible original bid of 20 million, for a player who was categorically not for sale.I have to remind you spur that Chelsea fans have difficulty with concepts like honour, contract (unless it's a bullet in the head type), and crime.
Calling Levy a stubborn prick for refusing to sell Modric just makes you sound bitter tbh. Do you imagine that Chelski have some kind of divine, sugar-daddy right?Apart from the ridiculous contract he has signed a year earlier and Levi being a stubborn prick ....
What about Modric's claim he has a 'gentleman's agreement' with Levy he can move to a bigger club?Calling Levy a stubborn prick for refusing to sell Modric just makes you sound bitter tbh. Do you imagine that Chelski have some kind of divine, sugar-daddy right?
It'd be more accurate to talk about the arrogance of Chelski in pursuing a player who had recently signed a 6 year contract (a player, moreover, who was key to the whole Spurs team).
Chelski were stupid enough to think they could just walk in, bounce Levy and take Modric.
And then you compounded that stupidity by (a) initially offering a derisory sum; and then (b) continuing to waste their summer by chasing Modric even after Levy had made it crystal clear that he wouldn't be sold.
And so you ended up with what you so richly deserved: egg on your face and a last-minute panic buy.
I've no idea about the alleged 'gentleman's agreement' but I'm sceptical that it existed: you don't sign a 6 year contract and then expect to be let go 1 year later.What about Modric's claim he has a 'gentleman's agreement' with Levy he can move to a bigger club?
Wasn't Chelsea's opening bid 20m? Is that really a 'derisory' sum these days?
20m is never 'derisory' and it's a fair opening bid for a player who clearly wanted out. I reckon he'll go next summer and he'll go for less than 40m - if he really wants out he'll force your hand.I've no idea about the alleged 'gentleman's agreement' but I'm sceptical that it existed: you don't sign a 6 year contract and then expect to be let go 1 year later.
Yes, 20m for Modric was derisory considering his talent and all the surrounding circumstances.
Clearly a far better player but does that apply to Ronaldo as well? According to you, 20 million is never derisiory and is fair for a player that clearly wants out. What would your reaction to a 20 million opening offer from Real been?20m is never 'derisory' and it's a fair opening bid for a player who clearly wanted out. I reckon he'll go next summer and he'll go for less than 40m - if he really wants out he'll force your hand.
I'm not bitter about Modric staying put. He is a Tottenham player under contract and if the club doesn't want to sell, so be it. I have menttioned it before on this very forum. It was his own doing to sign a long term contract, so there's no one else to blame.Calling Levy a stubborn prick for refusing to sell Modric just makes you sound bitter tbh. Do you imagine that Chelski have some kind of divine, sugar-daddy right?
It'd be more accurate to talk about the arrogance of Chelski in pursuing a player who had recently signed a 6 year contract (a player, moreover, who was key to the whole Spurs team).
Chelski were stupid enough to think they could just walk in, bounce Levy and take Modric.
And then you compounded that stupidity by (a) initially offering a derisory sum; and then (b) continuing to waste their summer by chasing Modric even after Levy had made it crystal clear that he wouldn't be sold.
And so you ended up with what you so richly deserved: egg on your face and a last-minute panic buy.
The length of a contract is there to protect the club in case the player wishes to leave and a suitable bid arrives. A player with less years left on his contract would fetch less of a fee.I've no idea about the alleged 'gentleman's agreement' but I'm sceptical that it existed: you don't sign a 6 year contract and then expect to be let go 1 year later.
Yes, 20m for Modric was derisory considering his talent and all the surrounding circumstances.
20m is just 3.5m more than Spurs paid for him ... before he became Prem-proven and fully showed that he was one of the best CMs in the world.20m is never 'derisory' and it's a fair opening bid for a player who clearly wanted out. I reckon he'll go next summer and he'll go for less than 40m - if he really wants out he'll force your hand.
Soon you'll be calling him a slave.Apart from the ridiculous contract he has signed a year earlier and Levi being a stubborn prick, Spurs were fortunate that Modric is a decent guy and a professional, all things considered. If they had someone like Tevez or Balotelli in this situation, keeping them against their will would be detrimental for the club, contract or no contract.
Who cares? What idiot makes a gentleman's agreement when signing a 6 year contract?So when Harry claims he heard a bid of 40m had been turned down, but doesn't know if it's true or not, you believe it's true.
When Modric claims he had a gentleman's agreement with Levi, you don't believe it.
Then why call Levy a stubborn prick for refusing to sell?I'm not bitter about Modric staying put. He is a Tottenham player under contract and if the club doesn't want to sell, so be it. ...
But in reality, aren't they the the current world class players ?Barca's MF is the combination of Xavi and Iniesta, I don't think any player/combo in football now can match it. So it's a bit of an unfair comparison really.
I don't see why Redknapp would lie about it tbh.So when Harry claims he heard a bid of 40m had been turned down, but doesn't know if it's true or not, you believe it's true.
When Modric claims he had a gentleman's agreement with Levi, you don't believe it.
Because he is a stubborn prick, it's just my opinion of him as a person.Then why call Levy a stubborn prick for refusing to sell?
It sounds to me as if you think he should have sold and is an idiot for not letting a rival for top 4 have our most key player.
Are you talking about Cristiano Ronaldo? I don't see the comparison really - Ronaldo is one of the players of his generation, was the FIFA WPOTY at the time, had won CL's, PL's and God knows what else. Of course there's a limit to what that actually means but it needs to be pointed out when Spurs fans start making that comparison. Modric is nowhere near that level.20m is just 3.5m more than Spurs paid for him ... before he became Prem-proven and fully showed that he was one of the best CMs in the world.
It's beyond stupid to make such an offer for such a player, especially when he has 5 years left on his contract.
Chelsea paid 50m for Torres and yet start the bidding for Modric at 20m? It only served to make Levy even more determined to feck them right off.
As for "he'll go for less than 40m - if he really wants out he'll force your hand" .... I think I've heard this somewhere before, but can't quite put my finger on where and when.
I think its unfair to compare Modric to Nasri as Nasri had only a year left in his contract while Modric has just signed a whopping 6 year deal last summer... Big difference !Are you talking about Cristiano Ronaldo? I don't see the comparison really - Ronaldo is one of the players of his generation, was the FIFA WPOTY at the time, had won CL's, PL's and God knows what else. Of course there's a limit to what that actually means but it needs to be pointed out when Spurs fans start making that comparison. Modric is nowhere near that level.
Surely Samir Nasri going to City last summer for 25m is a better comparison?
With all your bravado on here I'll laugh if Redknapp goes next summer, Modric gets the hump, Levy prices him out of a move and you get left with a seriously unhappy player. Not an entirely unlikely scenario, surely?
OK !I think its unfair to compare Modric to Nasri as Nasri had only a year left in his contract while Modric has just signed a whopping 6 year deal last summer... Big difference !
Is that directed at me? I've already said that Ronaldo is obviously a unique player but it was your own assertion that '20 million is never derisory'. I assume that means for players like Ronaldo and Messi as well then?Are you talking about Cristiano Ronaldo? I don't see the comparison really - Ronaldo is one of the players of his generation, was the FIFA WPOTY at the time, had won CL's, PL's and God knows what else. Of course there's a limit to what that actually means but it needs to be pointed out when Spurs fans start making that comparison. Modric is nowhere near that level.
Surely Samir Nasri going to City last summer for 25m is a better comparison?
With all your bravado on here I'll laugh if Redknapp goes next summer, Modric gets the hump, Levy prices him out of a move and you get left with a seriously unhappy player. Not an entirely unlikely scenario, surely?
I didn't mention Ronaldo. I said Chelski paid 50m for Torres, then had the gall to open their bidding for Modric at 20m. Is it any wonder that Levy told them where to stuff it?Are you talking about Cristiano Ronaldo? I don't see the comparison really - Ronaldo is one of the players of his generation, was the FIFA WPOTY at the time, had won CL's, PL's and God knows what else. Of course there's a limit to what that actually means but it needs to be pointed out when Spurs fans start making that comparison. Modric is nowhere near that level.
Surely Samir Nasri going to City last summer for 25m is a better comparison?
With all your bravado on here I'll laugh if Redknapp goes next summer, Modric gets the hump, Levy prices him out of a move and you get left with a seriously unhappy player. Not an entirely unlikely scenario, surely?
No.Is that directed at me?
I didn't mention Ronaldo. I said Chelski paid 50m for Torres, then had the gall to open their bidding for Modric at 20m. Is it any wonder that Levy told them where to stuff it?
I don't think the issue is really about the player, its about Spurs. Modric wanted a move in summer ? Why not, he's 26, Spurs only got to the UEFA and they didn't invest or bring in new players and didn't look like a worthy contender for the title... Modric had a couple of years left in his contract, he was very consistent and played some great football... Mr. Levi saw how Torres was sold for like 50m.. Oh the market price has inflated so Modric should be worth 45m minimal...OK !
The whole thing doesn't make sense to me - Modric must have the same ambitions as, say, Berbatov, and must want to play eventually for a bigger club than Spurs. He even agitated for a move last summer. So why would he sign a 6 year contract there? And then the whole 'gentleman's agreement' thing. Really bizarre, to say the least...
When I saw him playing for Spurs at the start of the season he really looked like he'd rather be somewhere else - Harry's clearly got him to buckle down and play for the club but without Harry there, I wonder what would have happened this season? And next?
Well it's pretty obvious he wanted the £1M a year pay rise he was going to get and probably thought he could walk away when the time came. Levy's not stupid he probably said that he would 'look at any offers from a bigger club' without committing himself to anything. Modric heard what he wanted to hear.The whole thing doesn't make sense to me - Modric must have the same ambitions as, say, Berbatov, and must want to play eventually for a bigger club than Spurs. He even agitated for a move last summer. So why would he sign a 6 year contract there? And then the whole 'gentleman's agreement' thing. Really bizarre, to say the least...