Agreed, the market is hugely over inflated and when they see us coming the will up their price by 50% -- but if the alternative is failure... someone has to make a judgement call, and not backing a guy who's clearly struggling (with Woodward even rumoured to have stopped him from resigning twice, if we can believe that), is absolutely criminal. Don't care if they're asking 50m for Mane. Sometimes you have to overpay. Losing out on CL will be a nightmare, try recruiting in the summer -- will have to overpay even more.
LVG Out Thread | BBC: Sacked!
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It's piss poor? I don't buy that for a second. Our squad is good, not great, but certainly not piss poor.
The squad is being grossly misused with LVG's 1970's Total Football garbage, and once we get a manager in that isn't stuck in the past with outdated tactics then we will without a doubt see improvements. I'm not saying that we don't need to sign anybody or that the squad is good as it is, but to suggest that it is a piss poor squad is quite frankly laughable. Our manager is the one who is piss poor.
Changed my vote to sack him now. All I want to do is just to enjoy watching United again.
Woodward maybe bad but VG is just has bad, both have done such a bad job, our transfer activity is infested with good signings that never replaced what we lost. Putting blind at CB sums it up for me
How would you define good? Because whomever comes in (bar Jose) will have to have time before they start bringing both good football and good results to the pitch. Right now, I'd be happy with one of the two.
Our squad is underachieving, it's not piss poor at all.
Maybe that is exactly what the fans should do. Stay outside until the 2nd half as they know nothing will happen in the first half. Would be interesting if that happened.feck. You may as well not go to Old Trafford before 45 minutes.
Or after for that matter.
Woodward refusing LVG's resignation reminds me of this:
I dont think Woodward would care until he starts getting verbally assaulted in the stands like SAF was getting at the end of Moyes's tenure. We all know who is keeping LVG in the position.
Blaming the players seems to be the way people are handling the dawning reality that LvG isn't the genius he's been made out to be.
Of course the players aren't performing that's why LvG is in trouble. I'd love to know how people are rating the players independent of the managers influence.
As with Moyes we'll only know how the players fare once a new manager comes in. I remember people blaming RvPs poor form on Moyes for instance.
Probably someone better than just a typical caretaker. Someone with huge amounts of energy and connections to bring absolute best to the club but I also doubt we'll produce something substantial this season anyway so indeed... not a big choice for time being plus not much time to create better inside organisation.
Truly a bitch of a situation.
Whose fault we didn't sign a CB or striker?
Who thought they a genius by putting Blind as CB. Relying on Rooney to get 30 goals. The squad is van Gaals doing.
To be quite frank, based on performances this season and last I have come to the conclusion that players like Schweinsteiger, Schneiderlin, Darmian, Herrera, Fellaini, Mata, Jones, etc. are not good enough. On top of this, we also have a bought a number of expensive players who are inexperienced and still need maturing. Not to say that we also have some bad injuries as well, but the core of the squad is piss poor if you ask me.
Blind at CB has been one of the very very few success stories this season.
We obviously need some players for the first team, but especially for the depth of the squad. The squad is not piss poor but far, far too small. That is the managers fault.
Come on, you cant say that when Leicester are leading the table 3 points ahead of Manchester City, it's not like Vardy and Mahrez are reincarnations of Cruyff and Van Basten
15 games left and we're 5 points behind Tottenham, it's already a hard spot to be at this time and it's not going to be better with LVG coaching the rest of the season. We gave him a fair chance, time to work with the team and he finally couldn't deliver, it's true that many things didn't pan out fairly for him (injuries and other stuff) but there's no point in keeping him. The players would have a new impulse just by changing the manager and that can have a greater impact in the final results than LVG trying 4 different formations in the rest of the season.
In front of two cdms. When we had defending to do it has been Smalling doing all the work.
We need players that'll drop straight into the first team, without letting anyone go, so that'll bulk up the squad nicely.
Don't have the time to go flicking through all the posts from today. Has there been much speculation today saying he will be sacked?
Mate told me that he's gone back to Netherlands for his daughter's birthday or something? Any truth in this?
I would say a CB, midfielder to replace Carrick, RW, maybe a No.10 and a striker. If Memphis doesn't buck up we might have to start looking for a LW after next season as well. Then a backup RB, a specialist not a winger dropping in there. Five to six players. It seems neverending.
Yes due back tomorrow.
Supposedly yes.
Yup. You're a little behind, so I'll do you the justice with the full story. Agreed in advance apparently, and there is no training today either.
I see. Cheers.
Blind and Memphis both went back to Holland as well. Hope this nice little break turns them into vintage United by Friday.
Can he send the money we paid for him back instead of himself tomorrow?
It's a lot of work, for sure.
I'd genuinely feel embarrassed if having watched United under Sir Alex Ferguson for so long, still couldn't appreciate/understand the influence of a great manager on the way a team performs on the pitch. It's a bit sad really.
Should just sell his cars and we would get some of it back.Sounds a bit like the storyline to "In Bruges" - maybe "In Amsterdam"?
Christ, That's clutching at straws isn't it?
Yep.Christ, That's clutching at straws isn't it?
I'm getting desperate.Maybe it is a chicken race between Woody and LvG. LvG trying to get the sack while his ego is being hurt more for every game. Woody trying to make him resign by refusing to sack him. That is how silly this club look at the moment.
Hope Memphis had no trouble with his gold teeth and metal detector
Schneiderlin - has been excellent for numerous years now, in almost every professional league in England.
Darmian - Darmian started the season very well, he was voted August player of the month. Plus I find it highly unlikely that you saw all that much of him whilst he was at Torino.
Shweinsteiger & Herrera - were both idolised by the fans when they started and have both shown flashes of brilliance. Ander put in some great performances last season and scored 8 goals from midfield and Bastian has consistently performed at the highest level of the game for a decade.
Mata - I have a strong dislike for Mata as a player, always have. But even I can't deny that during his Chelsea days, when he was used correctly, he was a magician around the oppositions box.
Whats more likely, 5 perfectly good players have suddenly turned shit or they are all victims of Van Gaal's obviously under performing philosophy.
I still say that with a better manager and good winger, we'd be sitting comfortably in the top four.
To me, if he wants to show he is a big player he needs to show a ruthless streak and at the moment he is behaving like a pussy.
How is he still here?
He's not. He's in Holland eating birthday cake and drinking champagne whilst we're all here losing our shit.
Not like you'd be losing much value, though good old Louis prefers the disciplined 0-0 draw.
Let me make myself clear. What I mean is based on performances whilst playing for Manchester United. I can understand the argument of being victims of LvG's management. But the fact that a player can't run, or pass, or shoot, etc. has nothing to do with the manager.
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