Kevin Palmer of the Sunday World (who's on the Twitter blacklist in the transfer tweets thread btw) said that there are reports of "Van Gaal's time at Man Utd may end imminently."
Take it fwiw.
Take it fwiw.
LVG Out Thread | BBC: Sacked!
- Thread starter Livewire1974
- Start date
- Status
He officially left 'by mutual consent', so I'm not sure what impact that would have on any non-compete type clause. If any.
Hmmm, according to the Mareen statement it was made out like he was sacked.
They could have agreed it with the compensation / while terminating the contract
He was undoubted 'sacked' in reality, but how they've officially treated it will affect his compensation etc.
As people call van Gaal a fraud of a manager, Palmer is a fraud of a journalist. All he tweets is to try and push/promote that crappy paper of his. He won't have a clue.
He probably had that clause in his contract and left by mutual consent because it will allow him to sign for whoever he wants while Chelsea don't have to give him 40m.
I see what you are saying, but again why would he agree to that? There was no bartering point for Chelsea, they wanted to sack him, so had to pay up. Him not agreeing to a clause like that upon his sacking wouldn't have meant they didn't have to pay him off would it?
Perfectly plausible.
There's a reason why he's on the blacklist ffs.
So because it's mutual would that mean he is entitled to feck all compensation?
Isn't there a vacancy as manager for our U18s since McClair left? Let's move LvG there till the end of his contract and get Mou in as an interim.
#ProblemSolver
#ProblemSolver
I lost all faith in him in the Summer. You could see that he's someone that will continue making baffling decisions that no one understands and stick by them even though results would show otherwise.
The terrible results werent suprising . You could see that from a mile away. The decision to go with just Rooney as a senior attacker , trimmed squad and our 4-2-3-1 formation without Herrera as a CM werent working in pre-season. That much was obvious from anyone who watched those games. He didnt for some reason.
I have no doubt in my mind now, just as I did then that those decisions would cost us. Keeping him and buying time wont change that. Hopefully we move him on now.
Not quite - mutual means he's allowed a negotiable amount or he can just dig his heels and ask for the full amount of the remainder of his contract. It differs from contract to contract and obviously Roman would have certain clauses in there to stop him walking away with the full whack.
cheers
That would have been negotiated between them, which gives them the excuse to call it 'mutual condent'. Like JP said above, it's likely he'll have taken a reduced payout in exchange for Chelsea not enforcing certain clauses such as a possible non-compete.
i see
World class con artist
I like the term "charlatan", but world class con artist is apt as well.
fraud
According to Wiki, his United reign carries his worst win percentage of all his managerial jobs.
Ajax 68.77%
Bayern 61.46%
Netherlands (2012-2014) 60.71%
AZ Alkmaar 57.95%
Barca (1997-2000) 55.56%
Barca (2002-2003) - 53.33%
Netherlands (2000-2002) 53.33%
United 50.70%
He's statistically doing the worst job he's ever done.
Ajax 68.77%
Bayern 61.46%
Netherlands (2012-2014) 60.71%
AZ Alkmaar 57.95%
Barca (1997-2000) 55.56%
Barca (2002-2003) - 53.33%
Netherlands (2000-2002) 53.33%
United 50.70%
He's statistically doing the worst job he's ever done.
I very much doubt that.
He and his representatives have come out strongly denying that he's taking a sabbatical.
From Shedend, rumours are that Jose wants to remain in England.
I doubt he'd sign such a restraint of trade. Whats likely is that his financial compensation will be much less if he were to join a domestic side.
Seems like he's been on the decline for 25 years.
goals , goals lou.
Agree with everything you said, especially the last paragraph.
United have hit a total of seven shots on target in their last four Premier League home games
Wtf!
You think Poch is better than LVG?
LVG beat Poch last year and even though we have had a bad string of results, we are level on points with Spurs.
And had LVG had a 20+ goals per season striker, we'd probably be at the top of the league.
I think LVG is better than Poch.
The difference is that MUFC demand a top 3 finish. Spurs demand a top 6 finish.
yes
If that does happen Mourinho will be given the job he has been craving for a while.
There will be no excuses and our board will demand the title. I'm sure JM will tell them that that's what he will deliver.
What will be interesting is the players which he brings in and the pulling power. He will have a huge transfer kitty (able to break the World record twice over), so no doubt he will use all his sales skills to acquire the players he wants.
I'd also expect Wilson and Januzaj to be recalled with immediate effect.
If he not gone before the tw we are looking at years of mediocrity which could have been avoided and unfortunately we will not have learned the lesson of Liverpool but actually turn into them.
Lvg and wr need to gtfo of our club now!
Just seen the stats, 70% possession and 2 yes 2 shots on target,passes forward 28% ffs
Anyone still sticking up for this cretin needs a lobotomy!
Lvg and wr need to gtfo of our club now!
Just seen the stats, 70% possession and 2 yes 2 shots on target,passes forward 28% ffs
Anyone still sticking up for this cretin needs a lobotomy!
Back it up then.
You fail to mention that LVG has had 250mil to spend...
Awkward situation to be in. Will United take a gamble and hold on until the summer and move for Guardiola, (assuming he announces he's going to leave Bayern), or make a move now, sack LVG and get Mourinho in. By doing so, crushing any hope there is of landing Guardiola.
The plot thickens
The plot thickens
What he's doing at Spurs, is far better than what LvG (200m spent) has done at United. Don't given me that "oh if he had a 20 plus a season striker" crap. It was his decision to spend 200 plus and not get one while stick with Rooney.
I would prefer Guardiola as I think most would but I don't think we have a chance of getting him if we're not in the Champions League, something that looks more and more likely. So because of that is get José in and hopefully things will work out.
We're at the point now that making no choice is just as bad as making the wrong one.
If the board do consider sacking him for Mourinho, one of the main accusations levelled at Mourinho is that he leaves his clubs in a mess. While it may be true that things invariably go wrong in year 3, it's not accurate to say that he leaves a trail of destruction. In 2007-2008, his former Chelsea team, despite being managed by a man for whom the term "charlatan" was designed, were a penalty kick away from denying arguably United's best ever side in the Champions League final. At Madrid, they continued to compete at a very high level under Ancelotti, winning la decima. Porto and Inter did fall away but the only reason they got anywhere near the summit in the first place was down to Mourinho - with them, it was simply a case of normal service being resumed after respective gaps of around 20 and 40 years since their last success in the competition. In other words, while I can't see Mourinho as anything other than a short term option, it's unfair to insinuate that we would be back to square one if and when things go wrong. Given United are probably moving to a 3-4 year managerial cycle anyway after the last of a dying breed that was Fergie, I don't see why we should turn our nose up at "only" short-term success.
I sort of feel sad for him, and a big part of me wants him to succeed even though I've never been a big fan of him. The reason being that as a footballer when you are in decline, you know that it is only physically and you are still young, relatively speaking. When LVG fails, there is no comeback. He has done his last work and he has to recognize that he is outdated, physically and cognitively. That could potentially break any person. Therefore, a big part of me still wants him to be able to turn this around and have a good season. Furthermore, whilst I was never fond of him being given the position, and I think he is awfully arrogant, I still think it is important that we stand by our manager and support the team. After all, it is only football.
Well who's fault is it that he doesn't have a 20 goal striker? He dumped one and two serial assist providers without adequately replacing them. He has been too quick to cut out players without giving them a proper chance of impressing him and it's caught up with him.
Pochettino hasn't set the league on fire to earn the job but the way he has Spurs playing, his genuine promotion of youth and the challenges we are going to encounter attracting big name managers mean that his name will come up in discussions concerning LVG's replacement. I do think he is better than LVG even though a job of this nature may have come a couple of years too early.
Whereas that may be true and the accusations against Mourinho and how he leaves clubs can be exaggerated. For me, it is not even about that, I just never want to see Manchester United playing against the big teams like underdogs. Having that attitude of a reactive team whenever we come up against City is something I don't want to see. It still nags me that our best side of the '00s had to play like underdogs against the worst Barcelona side of the decade in 2008 but at least we weren't doing it regularly. The thought of us doing that regularly is not a nice one for me and even winning the league is very little consolation to be a team known for that.
- Status