Eoin McMahon
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From the video of all his goals for us and especially his early goals there all the traits of a striker needs- movement-pace-awareness and finishing ability. I feel that through focusing on physique and set pieces he may have neglected the finishing ability he had naturally. Importantly it he had it before so he can surely regain that composure and anticipation in once had.
Nah he isnt really a striker so maybe Josh King makes more senseDo we need a Rashford vs Callum Wilson thread as well?
To be a fan of this club on this forum you seem to have to hate all of its players.Do we need a Rashford vs Callum Wilson thread as well?
Not that I disagree with the sentiment, but he wasn't anonymous against us. He almost scored, twice to my memory.Hold up I just realized how ridiculous this comparison is. 5 games in and he 7 goals of which 4 were against promoted teams. He was anonymous in the first games against us and Leicester and this is the basis of his comparison a player who has 175 games and 48 goals for Man United not to mention his 34 caps for England and 7 goals. Rashford has an FA cup, League Cup, Europa League and Charity shield medals to Abraham Play off final medal. Both are 21, both are English and both play as the main striker for a big club.
It's crazy seeing people actually saying Abraham is better Rashford it really is. 5 games in the PL in which two he was awful and suddenly he's better than a player that has 3 seasons under his belt, starts for the National team in which Abraham isnt even in the squad and scored goals in big games.
Abraham scored against Sheff Utd, Norwich and Wolves.
Listen Abraham is a good young player that has potential there to succeed but instead of 5 games in lets see how hes doing at the end of the season and compare then or 3 years time when they'll be at their best. I knowing who im putting my money on and its not bias its just common sense
This is an interesting comment, time will tellRashford is a slightly better welbeck.
Abraham looking good though and just scored again.
He is another welbeck in my opinion. Never been impressed by his technique and (lack of) touch. Now he seems to have lost much of the movement he had when he first started.From the video of all his goals for us and especially his early goals there all the traits of a striker needs- movement-pace-awareness and finishing ability. I feel that through focusing on physique and set pieces he may have neglected the finishing ability he had naturally. Importantly it he had it before so he can surely regain that composure and anticipation in once had.
Most sensible post yetNot a fair comparison. Tam my Abraham is a number 9 striker while Rashford has been played more as an inside forward during his time at United.
It is like comparing Mason Mount with Matic because they are both midfielders. They are two types of midfielders, just as Rashford and Abraham have been played as two different types of forwards.
I'd like to see a Kane vs Abraham thread. I'm sure it would excite a few posters.Do we need a Rashford vs Callum Wilson thread as well?
Yes, but you see, Abraham scored them all this week.Rashford has 50 odd goals at the highest level. Abraham has 7
But Tammy abraham is only 3 or 4 goals away from matching Rashford's highest scoring season in the PL. As one poster said, he is just a better welbeck. Can do a job as a squad player, but nowhere near the quality of a starter if we intend to challenge for the PL in the future.Rashford has 50 odd goals at the highest level. Abraham has 7
12 actually, he scored 5 for Sawnsea in the Premier League too.Rashford has 50 odd goals at the highest level. Abraham has 7
Welbeck.
Rashford's highest goal tally in a PL season is 10. Abraham already scored 7 in 5 and scored 25 goals twice in the championship, if I am not mistaken - he is clearly an accomplished goalscorer.Rashford has 50 odd goals at the highest level. Abraham has 7
To further reinforce my point, he shouldn't even be starting for England(over way better players like sancho), and this was discussed in sunday supplement yesterday.But Tammy abraham is only 3 or 4 goals away from matching Rashford's highest scoring season in the PL. As one poster said, he is just a better welbeck. Can do a job as a squad player, but nowhere near the quality of a starter if we intend to challenge for the PL in the future.
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Think comparing him to Welbeck is a little unfair as he's already better in many ways then Welbeck was - but I do see similarities in that I don't think Rashford will reach the levels we all hoped he wouldHe is another welbeck in my opinion. Never been impressed by his technique and (lack of) touch. Now he seems to have lost much of the movement he had when he first started.
May be controversial, but I feel he is donkey like in his ability. A very fast donkey, but a donkey nonetheless. The tricks that come off once in awhile do little to dispel that notion.
That's true. He is comfortable leading the line and dealing with the pressure of hitting the back of the net frequently. If he manages 20 odd Prem goals this year then to be he would be proven beyond all doubt that he is a reliable goal scorerRashford's highest goal tally in a PL season is 10. Abraham already scored 7 in 5 and scored 25 goals twice in the championship, if I am not mistaken - he is clearly an accomplished goalscorer.
Exactly, isolate him upfront in our team like all our strikers have to contend with, and we'll see how many hattricks he gets.Abraham is benefiting from a more cohesive unit at the moment. Not easy to play as a striker in this team
Exactly. A more apt comparison would be v Pedro or another form of inside forward, not this petty point scoring where everything United related is deemed shit. This is just a proxy Rashford v Martial thread.Why is everyone acting as if Rashford is our number 9?
He plays Inside left, just because they both young forwards.
Comparing players after 4 games does not show which one is better.
Tammy might be brimming with confidence but don't forget what havoc 17 yr old Rashford caused defences.
Once PL defenders know the strikers strengths they have a better idea of stopping them, wont be long before Tammy has to adapt his game too.
It actually is becoming a joke from our fans. We are playing a slightly different style to Chelsea who seem like they want to play the we will outscore you football.Exactly. A more apt comparison would be v Pedro or another form of inside forward, not this petty point scoring where everything United related is deemed shit. This is just a proxy Rashford v Martial thread.
On the other side, this forum is genuinely shit at assessing players. we're just not very good at it so what is this discussion even worth?
This exact thread popped up when CHO was a sub, subject of a Bayern bid and played mainly v farmers in EL. As soon as someone shows a glimmer of promise they're supermen compared to what we have.It actually is becoming a joke from our fans. We are playing a slightly different style to Chelsea who seem like they want to play the we will outscore you football.
It is the same way last week I saw a thread which one poster commented saying Nuno would be a good manager for us not realising he plays a defensive formation.
I doubt there will be one of James v anyone because rival fans want to back their players, all we seem to do is back rivals.This exact thread popped up when CHO was a sub, subject of a Bayern bid and played mainly v farmers in EL. As soon as someone shows a glimmer of promise they're supermen compared to what we have.
These two are the same age yet Rashford record up till now is being used against him with Abraham dame time period is rarely discussed. That's because this comparison will be seen as the joke it is if the same comparison were applied over the same time period. Does Abraham have the same big game record? Of course not, he's played well in 2/3 games ffs in a months worth of games.
Is there a James v x on any rivals forum do you think?
He's also worse in many ways than Welbeck was, primarily because they're not really similar players at all. They're both thought of/judged as strikers when they play out wide half the time, and they both score(d) at roughly the same rate for United (239 minutes per league goal for Rashford, 253 for Welbeck), but they have little else in common as footballers. Can you even begin to imagine having Rashford mark Xabi Alonso, for example?Think comparing him to Welbeck is a little unfair as he's already better in many ways then Welbeck was - but I do see similarities in that I don't think Rashford will reach the levels we all hoped he would
Yeah, you don't even have to post stats, comparing Rashford is just lazy and stupid.The Welback comparisons to Rashford are next level stupid. Welbeck scored 29 goals and 21 assists for man utd in 8300 minutes at a rate of 1 goal/assist every 167 minutes and Rashford has netted 48 goals and 27 assists in 10895 mins at a rate of 1 goal/assist every 145 minutes.
Rashford also scored better individual goals, is more of a threat and is younger than Welbeck was so has more time.
He is past a loan to the championship. He is an England international and at the very least should be playing at this level.Abraham has honed his skills in the Championship and has gained a lot of confidence from those games. Perhaps a year on loan in the Championship would be good for Rashford. If not then time to let him go.