Even Chelsea managers, remember the Clattenberg, Clattenberg running down the wing episode
It seems in every game he refs, someone is a loser due to his erroneous decisions.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
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It seems in every game he refs, someone is a loser due to his erroneous decisions.
It's absolutely nuts that Clattenburg is reffing again next weekend. You've just had a proper nightmare of a performance making numerous mistakes. My gawd you've basically overturned the result of the match in making a call on a penalty which was one of the worst in memory. And what's the response by the Premier League? 'Carry on lad'. 'See you again Saturday'. Consequences? Gosh, no...
Agreed they need help 100% It's exactly what I said in my last post in this thread, if you wish to scroll back a page and read it.
What would benching him achieve? Did he not want to make the correct call? Do other referees need encouragement such as this in order to make correct calls? Referees make mistakes everywhere, all the the time. Sometimes, some places, they do get sidelined. Then they return and the mistakes resume.
The problem is so many referees get branded as United loving they go out of their way to change the opinion. There was contact in the Rafael penalty, but had Clattenburg waved play on the media would have made a big song and dance about how another ref might have given that and he gets branded as a United ref again. I think these guys must feel it's not worth the stick they'll receive.
Some free time to help coordinate the search for his guide dog?
I agree, he knew he would have got enormous stick and abuse from rival fans and the media if he let play go on when Rafael made the challenge.
Maybe Clattenburg thought United were comfortable enough to deal with a penalty at 3-1 but it was a catalyst for huge shift in momentum and screwed us over. Shit referee.
If not benching then some recognition that the performance was not up to standard. You can't improve unless you recognise mistakes. What we have here is no indication from the referee or anyone responsible for ensuring refereeing standards that his performance was below standard. Even if in the background there has been some internal response (and to be honest I'd have doubts that that's even happened) we had no public acceptance that that rubbish at the weekend was not up to standard. Sometimes a referee gets it wrong enough that fans are (should be!) entitled to some sort of reaction.
I'm not saying the guy needs to be publically humiliated for what was probably an honest mistake but no response from anyone in the Premier League just means it's more likely to happen again.
We don't know what's happening behind closed doors, but to be fair, it doesn't matter. You can throw the book at a referee, you can sit him quietly and show him his errors. It can still easily happen the next weekend because refereeing is impossible. They need video replays. Watch it once and you clearly see Rafael is pushed, end of story.
Until that's done, everything else is utterly pointless.
My Liverpool supporting brother even admitted that Clattenburg was awful. Can't believe he got a game this weekend.
I have no love for this idiot, but FFS banning him for going to a concert is just stupid, if anything he needs banning for being crap ref.
They're not banning him for going to a concert, they're banning him for breaking their rules. From reading the article it seems the main concern is that Warnock spoke to him alone after the game and it is a bit of a dangerous ground if managers are doing that.
He knew the rules and broke them so should be banned, regardless of where he was going.
That will teach me to read things properly.
Read is fully now and the banning is correct.
Proper order. Ed Sheeran ffs.
It was an Ed Sheeran concert. It should be a file ban and a short prison sentence. FA showing leniency towards their refs once again.
But he was already at an Ed Sheerab gig, surely that's punishment enough?
Is Clattenburg seriously seen as a crap ref? I'm struggling to think of anything bar a couple incidents over the last few years that would suggest that.
Balls of steel to give those penalties at Old Trafford against Liverpool.
Balls of steel to give those penalties at Old Trafford against Liverpool.
Yes. He is inconsistent as feck, and loves to be the star of attention. In the big games he will always do something controversial that I have seen.
That doesn't prove anything
even for the smaller teams he makes daft decisions. I can't obviously remember them all off the top of my head, but what about us v Leicester?. How can you say the Rafael penalty debacle was a choice of a "good referee".You're pretty rubbish at putting together an argument then.That doesn't prove anything
The Rafael sending off is one of the incidents I was referring to in my original post. I see those as pretty rare occurrences myself but by all means tell me the others.
Eh? you made no mention of that incident at all. I am not physic how can I tell what you are referring to?. Anyway like I said I can't remember everything, but the Torres sending off for 2 diving yellows were pretty dubious too.
This is a what a quick google bought up;
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...l-moments-in-the-referees-career-9042302.html
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It was discussed in the Phil Dowd thread, I was surprised to see so much vitriol for him, I've always considered him to be one of the top refs in the PL.
It was implied by "a couple incidents over the last couple years."
So no I wasnt requiring you to be "physic"
I find it hilarious that this is the sort of shit that the F.A get up in arms about and will drop a referee for... but when it's actually being rubbish at the main part of your job, they do very little.
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Why the hell are fully grown men going to Ed Sheeran gigs anyways??
He's an absolutely shocking ref imo
The guy's on-field decision making of late has been an absolute joke. Bench him for that.
Clattenburg isn't the worst of the refs in my opinion, but I do get the feeling there are some games where he has decided he wants to make the headlines.
Sums up the F.A perfectly though.
The embarrassing thing for Clattenburg is being outed as going to see Ed Sheeran.
The headlines being spouted are quite poor and misleading. He is banned for violating the travel policy and for violating the policy concerning contact with team officials.
What is the travel policy in force for exactly?
This is brilliant... Ed Sheeran!!!To make sure the officials aren't influenced by anyone just before or after matches, I imagine. Makes perfect sense. They're also not allowed to talk to officials from either club without the presence of the rest of their ref-team.
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