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Ask one of the posters who wanted him gone in the summer.When was the last time he actually had a bad game?
Ask one of the posters who wanted him gone in the summer.When was the last time he actually had a bad game?
Totally agree. Unpopular opinion but he rarely lets us down.Got hated by everyone but this guy is the perfect United mentality. Gives his 100% on the pitch whenever he steps on. Respect and love him.
He is a liability, like @SpyLuke10 mentioned above, in games where teams pressure us, in games like these against Burnley, lots of mediocre players can look good.That's the best I've seen him play the DM role for us. Normally a liability close to his own goal but very good, measured tenacity. Well played.
Theres been as many bad as good i would say. Sevilla at home last season comes to mind.Genuine question. Have there been any really good team performances in the last few years where he WASN’T involved? Because I can think of a whole bunch where he was. I also can’t think of many (any?) really shitty performances in which he featured. Although, obviously, that’s a bigger pool to choose from!
We didn’t concede until he was substituted for Pogba. Who then played the worst game of his life.Theres been as many bad as good i would say. Sevilla at home last season comes to mind.
Well i don't know if i would necessarily put that down to Fellaini being taken off. But it was a shitty team performance all round in that game.We didn’t concede until he was substituted for Pogba. Who then played the worst game of his life.
You mentioned only one game though, so not "as many" as you said.Theres been as many bad as good i would say. Sevilla at home last season comes to mind.
And? The other guy said he couldn't remember any bad team performances he was involved in, Sevilla comes to mind right away. What do you need a list?You mentioned only one game though, so not "as many" as you said.
Yes.And? The other guy said he couldn't remember any bad team performances he was involved in, Sevilla comes to mind right away. What do you need a list?
He has been involved in many bad performances. Either personally or as a team, thats obvious considering the teams struggles over the 5 years that has coincided with his time at the club.
I've no problem giving Fellaini credit when he has a good game, but whenever he does how good he's been tends to get exaggerated. Just like when he has a bad game the opposite happens.
A bit of hyperbole in that post mate, he was booed what 1 or 2 times once in a friendly. I'd say non stop is a stretch.Yes.
He has been the scapegoat of most of our poor performance even when he has nothing to do with it. Has been booed non stop by fans and slaughtered several times but always still put 100% whenever he steps on the pitch and never complain.
TBH I don't he has ever been supported much by one, fans or media bar his managers, LVG and Mourinho.A bit of hyperbole in that post mate, he was booed what 1 or 2 times once in a friendly. I'd say non stop is a stretch.
I haven't scapegoated him and giving 100% and playing poorly are not mutually exclusive, you can play bad and still work hard.
To be honest I can’t agree with that bolded bit on Fellaini or any player. I’ve seen him work hard and try but still play poorly. I don’t see how anyone could think otherwise unless you happen to think he’s never had a bad game for us or had games where he didn’t give 100%. As I said working hard and playing bad are not mutually exclusive.TBH I don't he has ever been supported much by one, fans or media bar his managers, LVG and Mourinho.
Maybe you didn't but whenever we play poor and lose while he's playing he's the direct scapegoat of that loss even when he had nothing to do with while the other and big culprits of that loss mostly escape the blame for some thanks to Fellaini being around.
His 100% is actually a good performance imo. He has shown he can very useful several times under LVG and Mou
I didn't say that. He had his off days like the rest but you can never say his mentality or attitude was the reason, rather it was just a day off, not a case of turning on half arsed for the game.To be honest I can’t agree with that bolded bit on Fellaini or any player. I’ve seen him work hard and try but still play poorly. I don’t see how anyone could think otherwise unless you happen to think he’s never had a bad game for us or had games where he didn’t give 100%. As I said working hard and playing bad are not mutually exclusive.
Also i can’t say he has been blamed every time we lose. I’ve seen other players get blamed for losses. Darmian, Smalling, Jones etc the other week Lukaku got blamed for the Spurs loss.
For a long time our most frustrating buy for me, not because of his application, which was always very good, but because of his performances. Under Mourinho, I actually think he has been good 7 out of 10 games, very good in a few, bad in very few. He would be in my ‘played best under Mou’-eleven on merit.Theres been as many bad as good i would say. Sevilla at home last season comes to mind.
He was great in LVG first season tbf.For a long time our most frustrating buy for me, not because of his application, which was always very good, but because of his performances. Under Mourinho, I actually think he has been good 7 out of 10 games, very good in a few, bad in very few. He would be in my ‘played best under Mou’-eleven on merit.
I’d say at Everton he was a 7/10 player
Under Moyes’ United a 5/10
LVG a 5/10 and
Mourinho a 7/10 just.
Opinion, but there you have mine.
My impression, not from the stands, but elsewhere, is that he has been scapegoated more than justly by many, defended by a few.
Maybe I have selective memory of the era, but my main impressions were of him slowing play down with his passing (and I mean more than most even then).He was great in LVG first season tbf.
He was average in LVG second season but in his first second he was one of our standout players.Maybe I have selective memory of the era, but my main impressions were of him slowing play down with his passing (and I mean more than most even then).
He's fine when he has a tactically focused role like he did today. He does his job diligently. What does piss people off is when managers bring him on instead of an attacker like Martial or Rashford when chasing a game and we end up dumping balls into the box with no clear strategy or plan to score. I think the latter is what stays in people's minds. He has a purpose and its best when he is used defensively and to make simple passes to more accomplished players like Pogba to circulate into the attack.When was the last time he actually had a bad game?
I never said you did to be fair mate. I was just trying to make sense of your post, we'll just have to disagree on this one then mate. As i said i've seen him give 100% and still play badly, just like other players.I didn't say that. He had his off days like the rest but you can never say his mentality or attitude was the reason, rather it was just a day off, not a case of turning on half arsed for the game.
I agree, i'm not his biggest fan but i do recognize his strengths.He's still a pretty good player when used properly and to his strength. He's not a flair player and some don't like that, fair but he has his strengths and it's needed in a league like this one. He's not a poor player in general.
Ok fair enough, my experience has been different. I've seen a variety of players blamed for losses. Now i'm not saying i haven't seen Fellaini get some unfair criticism, i have and he gets more than most. But i don't think he gets blamed all the time.Disagree. He has been blamed whenever he's around and playing in a game, he'll be accused of the loss and how we have gone down..etc. When he's not around other players take more of the fire.
I might not have been clear with that post, but i was replying to someone else saying they can't remember him being involved in a bad team performance. I was saying he's been involved in as many bad team performances as he has good in my opinion. United as a team have had a fair few poor performances over the last 5 years. I wasn't commentating on Fellaini's own performances.For a long time our most frustrating buy for me, not because of his application, which was always very good, but because of his performances. Under Mourinho, I actually think he has been good 7 out of 10 games, very good in a few, bad in very few. He would be in my ‘played best under Mou’-eleven on merit.
I’d say at Everton he was a 7/10 player
Under Moyes’ United a 5/10
LVG a 5/10 and
Mourinho a 7/10 just.
Opinion, but there you have mine.
My impression, not from the stands, but elsewhere, is that he has been scapegoated more than justly by many, defended by a few.