The reason he's firing now is cause he was made to lose that shit ton of weight he put on.
Martial agent looking for a new club for him
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Yeah saw him in the Belgium game and he looked like he's lost half his body weight in comparison to when he was at United.
Absolutely. In an industry that’s almost solely based on talent acquisition, development, prospecting and turnover we have to be the worst big club out there post Fergie. I don’t want shiny new toys all the time. I just want the right lads and like it or not it’s trial and error. I like players like Fred Lindelof and James because they fight for their place as much as fans are divided on them. But when you have big stars on huge money phoning it in or not performing for whatever reason, cut them and reinvest. Stop wasting each other’s time and money.
Same thing with sitting on youth players until their value is gone and their contracts are too big to sell them on. It’s an exercise in cost cutting by the glazers. Much like the way they manage all that club debt by just paying off the interest. The deadwood is seen as the squad debt that won’t be cleared out until there’s no value left in the player at all. These days a new contract for Lingard wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest.
I really feel like Ole sees the importance of this, but he doesn't have as much control in this regard as many fans think. Especially when you have players on inflated wages, it becomes a lot harder to shift them.
The sooner he's gone, the better! Overrated and unprofessional for years now ...
No you quoted my post about Martial not being a galactico 'pal'. Its literally in the thread and even a tiny bit of effort on your part would have made that clear before you needed to start getting shirty about it.
It's been 5 days. Did his agent find him a club?
If not... Well chop chop then.
If not... Well chop chop then.
i’d swap Martial for Alexander Isak
Be interested to see where he ends up. I've always thought he was over-critized before this year, and last year he was our best player over the course of the season as our main 9, but this year there's no doubting he was unacceptably bad. He's also a bit too injury prone to be able to afford to deal with the streakiness, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him tear it up in a more open league. He's still very gifted on the ball and has some of the best close control around.
Would like to see him fetch somewhere in the 30-50m range or a swap for a player we need. Unironically think he would have fit Barca more than Aguero, as he would enjoy the quick interplay with Messi.
Would like to see him fetch somewhere in the 30-50m range or a swap for a player we need. Unironically think he would have fit Barca more than Aguero, as he would enjoy the quick interplay with Messi.
Still no credible sources?
Once again, it will be almost impossible to find him a new club AND that can pay his wages. The top clubs who could are not interested (likely), and he wouldn't want to move to a tier 3 club either. Our salary policy is destroying us really
It was early morning yesterday
I was up before the dawn
And he has really enjoyed his stay
Tony must be moving on
Goodbye Tony, its been nice
I hope you find your paradise
Come tomorrow
Feel no pain
Feeeelll nooo painnnnnn
Goodbye Tony
Goodbye Tony
Goodbye Tony
Goodbye Tony
I was up before the dawn
And he has really enjoyed his stay
Tony must be moving on
Goodbye Tony, its been nice
I hope you find your paradise
Come tomorrow
Feel no pain
Feeeelll nooo painnnnnn
Goodbye Tony
Goodbye Tony
Goodbye Tony
Goodbye Tony
Someone should create a thread, that's about discussing why we can't sell players for reasonable fee, our wages structure and why the club don't demote players to the reserves, i mean players on huge wages, that are not willing to go to other clubs because we pay them better like Chelsea would do? Take Jones for example been on our books for years and has hardly kick a ball, the club should be ruthless and force players who are not up for it out.
Looks like this is the common opinion of fans on Martial.
If Pogba is sold, I doubt Martial will be sold.
We simply matched his demands and Ole gave his full backing to him. Shame he didn't step up and show that Ole was correct in putting faith in him. Obviously money isn't his motivation anymore. Seems bizarre he earns Sala/Kane like wages and has never even got close to either.
Would rather sell James and Keep him around for another season. But if we get a good fee, I wouldn’t say no.
He had his best season after he had renewed his contract.
Yes and then fell off a cliff. Plus his best year wasn't a patch on Kane nor Salah's, nor Mane's. For 200k a week he should be doing a lot better.
We need players we expect to do well, not constantly hoping they do. That's if we ever want to be great again. No one, even his biggest fans expect Martial to have a great season, it's all hope.
If we get rid of Pogba and Martial and manage to replace them both with Grealish only then boy oh boy - I would be happy for Ole to not have to win a PL title next season for him to have a go the following season after completing the gaps better.
Also the team berbatov was in was more well rounded than the team Martial played for.
Unsurprising that this hasn't been reported on again, total bollocks.
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Striker/left winger sold to make way for right winger? Sounds like lazy journalism to me.
Can we do a cash + Martial offer to Aston Villa for Grealish?
You think Aston Villa are going to pay Martial’s £250k a week wages?
Martial is not going to Villa
Martial plus cash for Kane
James is a lot more useful, even if he is less skillful, as a late game sub versus tired defenders.
And he seems more happy with being a squad player than Martial does.
James is more useful than Martial? Ffs
Pashun & desiyah > technical ability, as always on the caf.
People are crazy on the caf as always.James is more useful than Martial? Ffs
Pashun & desiyah > technical ability, as always on the caf.
Especially when it comes to them foreigners. Look at how many on the caf think Pogba is shit but would happily pay 100m for Grealish
It makes sense. Martial is only useful as a starter, he doesn't want to be a squad player and doesn't do well as one, but isn't good enough to be a starter for what we want. He has no route to future starting position and is behind Greenwood as the first choice rotation option too now. Love him, but the time has come. Hopefully he can go on to have a good career and fetch a good price.
I think it’s the fact they would be getting a huge decline in quality for that position that would put them off the most.You think Aston Villa are going to pay Martial’s £250k a week wages?
Comparing the two of them last season is depressing.
Maybe this is why we're apparently in for Sulemana?
Martial was a disaster this Season. And i wouldn't lose sleep if we sold him.
I do think it's one year too soon though. I haven't quite lost all hope on him yet. When he's in the mood, he's pure class. Just didn't see it at all last season.
I do think it's one year too soon though. I haven't quite lost all hope on him yet. When he's in the mood, he's pure class. Just didn't see it at all last season.
Just saying, there's some utter shit being talked about in this thread.
On topic though, Martial's salary is no problem. Him and his agents are not fecking retarded, of course he won't earn 250K/week elsewhere. If he wants to play day in day out he needs to join a lesser club and thus, earn a lesser salary.
Also to the guy above saying James is more useful than Tony, you're out of your god damn mind son.
On topic though, Martial's salary is no problem. Him and his agents are not fecking retarded, of course he won't earn 250K/week elsewhere. If he wants to play day in day out he needs to join a lesser club and thus, earn a lesser salary.
Also to the guy above saying James is more useful than Tony, you're out of your god damn mind son.
Would make sense to me if we were signing another #9 (even a bargain one) but less so if we're not.
Cavani is aging and needs to be managed in terms of starts. Greenwood has played nearly entirely on the right so far, with Solskjaer openly saying it will be years before he's ready to become an out and out CF. And Rashford has never looked particularly good in that role.
I don't rate Martial that much but I'd much rather have him as an option at #9 than leave ourselves short.
Cavani is aging and needs to be managed in terms of starts. Greenwood has played nearly entirely on the right so far, with Solskjaer openly saying it will be years before he's ready to become an out and out CF. And Rashford has never looked particularly good in that role.
I don't rate Martial that much but I'd much rather have him as an option at #9 than leave ourselves short.
Grealish is Villa's Kane in terms of importance, there's no way Villa sells him for anything less than crazy money. The owners are investing heavily and will put heir feet down.
Martials inconsistency works against him. He has a reputation for being lazy, which is a shame because at times he's an absolute force. Give Martial Cavanis lion heart and I wouldn't trade him for Mbappe. Do other clubs rate him high enough to part with their star players + cash for Martial?
I would actually not be that upset if we sold him. 26 this year, don't think he's gonna reach the potential that we all know he has. Despite what many on here think, yes he's been a good player for us, but he's not been sensastional, I think he's way overrated on here.